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Halfcan 11-08-2021 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 15944114)
This team was not built to win 13-7 or 20-17. We got away with it the last 2 weeks because we played Daniel Jones and Jordon Love.

It's strange that the division-leading Faders did not "get away" with a win.

And they have MVP candidate Carr- while we are stuck with a guy that can't read defenses!!

Mahomes lead a game-winning drive and Carr did not.

petegz28 11-08-2021 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 15944141)
It's strange that the division-leading Faders did not "get away" with a win.

And they have MVP candidate Carr- while we are stuck with a guy that can't read defenses!!

Now do Raiders-Ravens.....

mr. tegu 11-08-2021 10:21 PM

I was much happier with Mahomes pocket presence yesterday. He wasn’t dropping as deep or bailing unnecessarily. This predictably resulted in no reckless passes turned interceptions. Now he just needs to read the field better and make better decisions.

He seems to be determining his throw pre snap at times but if he can make himself do that to what will be a wide open check down like Brady always does he’ll be that much better.

Rasputin 11-08-2021 10:24 PM

Does anyone want to bet me that Patrick doesn't have another 5 TD pass game this season or two or three? ?


huh. Who here thinks Patrick won't throw 5 TDs in any given game rest of the season ?

petegz28 11-08-2021 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 15944157)
I was much happier with Mahomes pocket presence yesterday. He wasn’t dropping as deep or bailing unnecessarily. This predictably resulted in no reckless passes turned interceptions. Now he just needs to read the field better and make better decisions.

He seems to be determining his throw pre snap at times but if he can make himself do that to what will be a wide open check down like Brady always does he’ll be that much better.

He did better in the pocket and didn't run from phantom pressure. But his passes sucked and his reads sucked. He tried to throw an INT and GB dropped it.

He is playing tentative and right now like he is playing not to lose.

Hammock Parties 11-08-2021 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 15944178)
He did better in the pocket and didn't run from phantom pressure. But his passes sucked and his reads sucked. He tried to throw an INT and GB dropped it.

He is playing tentative and right now like he is playing not to lose.

Mahomes shoved a red hot poker up your peehole on 3rd and 10.

AND YOU LIKED IT!

Halfcan 11-08-2021 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 15944178)
He did better in the pocket and didn't run from phantom pressure. But his passes sucked and his reads sucked. He tried to throw an INT and GB dropped it.

He is playing tentative and right now like he is playing not to lose.

So is he playing not to lose or just chugging it for the win- make up your mind.

I know he is no Watson- but you are making him out to be the worst QB of all time. :doh!:

petegz28 11-08-2021 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 15944219)
So is he playing not to lose or just chugging it for the win- make up your mind.

I know he is no Watson- but you are making him out to be the worst QB of all time. :doh!:

The chucking it up was dumb football. That's him trying to correct everything that has gone wrong with one pass.

Right now he is playing like one of the lesser QBs.

36 points in 3 games.

He is not playing good football right now. And though Clay likes to talk out of both sides of his face, the videos he posted show it.

The question right now is not is there something wrong with Mahomes, but what is wrong with Mahomes? Something is definitely wrong.

Chiefspants 11-08-2021 10:40 PM

Is the answer “he’s going through a slump” sufficient or nah

petegz28 11-08-2021 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 15944249)
Is the answer “he’s going through a slump” sufficient or nah

I think we know he is going through a slump. Question is, why? What is causing the slump and why does it seem to be getting worse?

Chiefspants 11-08-2021 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 15944252)
I think we know he is going through a slump. Question is, why? What is causing the slump and why does it seem to be getting worse?

He went through a similar one in 2019 and I don’t think we ever got a dissertation as to why. He struggled in the red zone, throwing out of the pocket, and against man coverage at the tail end of 2019. He particularly struggled against the Chargers Cover 3 and then had similar struggles when the Niners recreated that cover 3 in the Super Bowl.

No one ended up caring about his slump in the back half of the year once the playoffs rolled around. He just needs some time, sometimes that’s all QB’s need to turn it around.

Rasputin 11-08-2021 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Rasputin (Post 15944167)
Does anyone want to bet me that Patrick doesn't have another 5 TD pass game this season or two or three? ?


huh. Who here thinks Patrick won't throw 5 TDs in any given game rest of the season ?

Oh okay just ****ing ignore this ****ing post . Anyone of you going bet me Patrick won't have another 5TD game? I bet he does please someone bet me he doesn't.

Rasputin 11-08-2021 10:49 PM

Pete will you take my bet? Bet me he doesn't have another 5 TD game this season. I bet he does Pete what say you? Anyone else want to bet? You all ****ing know Patrick can and will have multiple touchdown games come on bet me he won't have 5 again this season.

petegz28 11-08-2021 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 15944260)
He went through a similar one in 2019 and I don’t think we ever got a dissertation as to why. He struggled in the red zone, throwing out of the pocket, and against man coverage at the tail end of 2019. He particularly struggled against the Chargers Cover 3 and then had similar struggles when the Niners recreated that cover 3 in the Super Bowl.

No one ended up caring about his slump in the back half of the year once the playoffs rolled around. He just needs some time, sometimes that’s all QB’s need to turn it around.

He was playing hurt on a bum ankle then. And even so, he wasn't off like his right now. I mean his passes are uncharacteristically inaccurate right now. Behind guys, in the ground, way out of reach on deep balls.

Right now he reminds me of a Pitcher that insists on throwing his sinker even though teams have caught on and quit swinging at it.

The 40 yard pass to Hardman was made out of pride and stubbornness, imo.

Until he accepts the fact that he doesn't have to always have highlight-reel passes every time he drops back I think he will struggle.

When he learns to be patient and carve defenses up with the short to intermediate routes, the deep routes will come back.

petegz28 11-08-2021 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Rasputin (Post 15944266)
Pete will you take my bet? Bet me he doesn't have another 5 TD game this season. I bet he does Pete what say you? Anyone else want to bet? You all ****ing know Patrick can and will have multiple touchdown games come on bet me he won't have 5 again this season.

Dude, I don't care if he throws for 5 TDs in a game or not. That's not the point. Nor does that mean we will win as we have seen in the past.

I want to see him have a good game. If that means he throws for 2 TDs and we run for 3 then great. Lead the ****ing offense.


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