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If you were the GM of the Chiefs, we never would have drafted Patrick Mahomes. While you're at it, please point to where I advocated signing Clowney for more than a one year deal.

You're not being realistic. Clowney best interest is to sign a big contract w someone for a lot of years because he isn't that good. One-year deal here isn't in his best interest.

I'm just a fan. Not a GM and never could be that's for scours and guys who have played the game at college or professional level not me.

I'll 100% accept that critique/point.

You are so darn hip...how can you stand it?

Okay man fair enough. For the record I would love to have Clowney on a one-year deal just don't think it is going to happen.

It will never cease to amaze me how people can have the world's knowledge in their literal fingertips but refuse to use it.

So what does it mean in this case? Mahomes's contract doesn't apply to his situation, so let's move on?

Lots of dude love in here. Thanks Pat for the extension.

He kind of missed his whole final year in college, although he was in uniform and on the field.

Yeah, as PAChiefs has pointed out, he seems to want a massive Frank Clark like deal, which I (and the FO) isn't interested in at all. But, if his market completely evaporates and his only choice is a one year "prove it" deal, I wonder if he'd be interested in joining Patrick Mahomes' Chiefs team and a loaded defensive line (where, unlike Seattle, he won't be the recipient of the highest % of double teams in the NFL) to rebuild his value for a deal next year.

If it's not a one year deal, I'm not interested for the reasons others have pointed out.

But, a Clark/Pennel/Jones/Pissed Off Clowney line?

This defense starts to look like a Top 10 D complete with an offense no one can shut down in the NFL. It's fun to think about, at least.

That makes sense to me. He’s probably fine in contract years.

KC could use some cheaper talent in years to come. Wouldn't it be wise to trade him for a few high draft picks? Especially from a team that might draft hi.

I get the team is loaded for another SB run but this year is kind of off with the COVID thing.

That would be great if anyone actually made an offer that was fair.

If we can't get a first and second for Jones I think it is in the Chiefs' best interest to sign him.

I have always thought they would trade him but after the draft it became obvious nobody wants to pay what he's worth.

Chris Jones will look like the smaller person if he keeps bitching and threatening.

He deserves to be paid but we have had issues paying huge salaries an watch guys suddenly loaf like bread.

As usual, we're in lockstep.

The whole Clowney scenario is predicated on 1) freeing up enough cap room; 2) his offers continuing to evaporate or be lowball (in his mind) offers, to the point that he says screw it, I'm going to go prove the haters wrong and get the big bag, rather than the biggest bag I can get right now.

1 year, $18M from Seattle (where he will get doubles on every single passing down)

or

1 year, $10M from Kansas City, with heavy incentives ($1.5 million incentive if they win the SB, $1.5 million incentive if he has 15 sacks, $500k if he makes the Pro Bowl, $3M if he's defensive player of the year, etc).

That's a scenario I can try to sell if I'm the GM. I can tell him if he stays healthy and plays his butt off, he'll get a SB ring, rack up a bunch of sacks, and position himself better for the huge deal he's seeking.

Seems trading Jones would help the franchise overall. But if their are no suitors. Seems taking a few 2nd or 3rd round pics would be beneficial in the long run.

Guess the Chiefs can be the cap masters like the 80's 9ers and 90's Broncos.

Trade him to the jets for their safety adams , when honeybadgers contract is up you have his replacement

Remember 3 months ago when I was posting the rumors that the Chiefs could take an OT in rd 1? I remember hearing that from 3 different media places including Nate Taylor who I trust.

Well...they decided to take Niang who has almost everything you want. That guy was a potential first rd pick who was pushed down bc of a very strong class and an injury.

Eric Fisher has been a solid LT. I think we all appreciate him after last year. However, he is not a core player. If I have to decide to keep Fisher or Jones, I’m keeping Jones.

This seems to have been planned long ago. I could see us getting Niang ready to take over in 2021 and trading him for a high draft pick (2nd?) while creating $11.5 million to pay Jones.

You don’t get rid of Fisher until you have an actual proven replacement for him. Taking a chance on a LT is the last thing this team needs to do when he is the biggest piece to keeping our half billion dollar QB protected

Everything I learned about life I learned from Chiefs Planet...


...heh. Yes, I googled it. Still don't know what he meant in the context of the tweet. But...as previously stated, I'm old I guess.

It means "Let go of things that don't apply to your life".

They don't play the same position. Yes I know they're safeties but still.

just trying to think of cheaper options if c. jones wants to be a tool

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/ArrowheadPride?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ArrowheadPride</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/ArrowheadLive?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ArrowheadLive</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/PrimeTime_KC?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@PrimeTime_KC</a> can y’all help get the word out that <a href="https://twitter.com/StoneColdJones?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@StoneColdJones</a> will be signing autographs this Friday at <a href="https://twitter.com/MmscKc?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@MmscKc</a> <a href="https://t.co/nYDKB5FzC9">pic.twitter.com/nYDKB5FzC9</a></p>&mdash; Chrissi (@RoyalsChiefsFan) <a href="https://twitter.com/RoyalsChiefsFan/status/1281046194819682304?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 9, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Yeah, I'm sure people will be rushing over after his threats of holding out...

Hey Chris- can you sign this picture of Mahomes for me--

I dare you to do that.

I wish Veach vould sign him for less than 20M but I know it is not happening.

I wouldn't mind a trade either if the price is right.

I still have in mind those Houston and Berry contracts which I never liked to begin with.

Chris Jones 9 sacks last year
Frank Clark 8 sacks last year 19.3 Mil 2020 salary

They will be when it's right after the announcement he signed a new contract.

Hmmmmm.

This either means some big news is coming soon (like in the next 24 hours)! Or it’s a PR move to try and get public sentiment behind him to ‘pressure’ Hunt and Veach to meet his contract demands to keep him.

Interesting.

Have no doubt his agent is behind this . . . . .

Is signing autographs a smart way to isolate?

Those contracts were bad, but the Chiefs got overcame them.

Uh oh.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFL?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NFL</a> In general the worst way for a player to facilitate a trade is to go public w demand. Other teams know player is unhappy and lowball in trade offers. Puts current team up against the wall.</p>&mdash; Leigh Steinberg (@leighsteinberg) <a href="https://twitter.com/leighsteinberg/status/1280989784085630977?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 8, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Umm what the **** does this have to do with Chris Jones?

This isn’t even remotely the same as threatening to hold out.

Where has Jones said he wanted a trade??

In an interview (before lockdown) Chris said that the franchise tag has 2 ways it plays out.

1) the team signs the player to a long term deal.

2) the team trades the player to a team that gives him a long term deal

He never even acknowledges playing on the tag as an option. His recent tweet re-enforces that stance.

I read that as more about Dak than it is about Jones.

It's about Mostert

Frank Clark’s cousin dies of Covid

Great thread to post that in

You’re a ****ing moron.

You gonna tell that to Frank?? Nah because you are a little bitch. Prayers are needed right now for Frank and his family 🙏🏻

(This is a Chris Jones thread)

I still have faith that Veach will get Jones signed. Though I have no idea how that might happen.

My off-the-cuff theory is something similar to what they did with Mahomes. No, not for $450 million, etc., but possibly a longer deal than usual for a DT so the Chiefs can absorb the bulk of the cap hit a few years down the line. The trick will be getting CJ to accept a little less money now for more money later. But both sides have said repeatedly that they want to stay together, so I'm fairly confident they'll get a deal done by the 15th.

[crosses fingers]

Mahomes contract makes it very possible to sign Jones but would have to frontload Jones

Have we extended this piece of shit yet?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> DI Chris Jones was tied for the third highest-graded defender on 3rd and 4th downs in the 2019 season, trailing only Aaron Donald and Jamal Adams!<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a> <a href="https://t.co/XuN02Bib5m">https://t.co/XuN02Bib5m</a></p>&mdash; PFF KC Chiefs (@PFF_Chiefs) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF_Chiefs/status/1281322590812938257?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 9, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Ah, thx. Yeah, as I've said multiple times before, I haven' t a real clue how the whole contract/cap space thing works. I do enough math in my real life; never was interested in figuring out how the money works in sports.

What does that have to do with what was said in the tweet?

Jones nor his agent have publicly demanded a trade. Nothing close to that.

The tweet was clearly in reference to Mostert like Kimosabi said.

He didn’t have to say it because the options he listed are what happens. If he plays this year on the tag and gets tagged again it’s back to the same two options. Or one of those options happen before he gets tagged again.

This

I hope Veach can swing something like this because the more I dig into the Mahomes deal the better it looks.

Mahomes is literally going to count < $30mm against our cap for the next 6 years. It’s crazy how much flexibility Veach has created for himself with the Mahomes deal. I could see everyone doing this kind of thing from here on out on the big deals:

- Almost no signing bonus at start
- Player gets security with iron-clad injury balloon payment
- Rolling roster bonuses let the team cut up the per year hit in 5 pieces each year
- Forcing the team to do it a year in advance guarantees the team is spending on players
- Since the team needs the player to restructure each year it gives the player more security that the team that is fielded is a good one and the coaching staff aren’t full of idiots — the player can pretty much force the team’s hand at any time giving additional security to the player.

It really is genius.

It takes you 4-5 years to get to a cap hit that equals what Mahomes is making and in year 6 they’ll presumably have the cap dollars to do it all again.

More like: Hey Chris- can you get Mahomes to sign this picture of Mahomes for me?

Um wtf are you posting this for? Youre a moron.

Good God, the more you post the more I start to think that you are legitimately mentally challenged. Do you just comb through Twitter looking for personal shit about these players. I can only imagine what your search history looks like or what type of notifications you have set up. You're really creepy man and you obviously don't see how big of a stalker you look like. I cant even imagine wtf a player would think reading some of the creepy shit you write. I cant wait for Pat Mahomes to get a restraining order against you LMAO

After this I've always been a bit sketched out by the guy.

https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=324208

Dude needs to stop being such a creepy little bastard all the time.

I mean it’s not like ArrowheadPride or Clark himself posted about it......

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A family tragedy for the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> defensive end:<a href="https://t.co/AIYEkfAICH">https://t.co/AIYEkfAICH</a></p>&mdash; Arrowhead Pride (@ArrowheadPride) <a href="https://twitter.com/ArrowheadPride/status/1281287250232381440?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 9, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Yeah that's ****ed up. I remember that. Was he this creepy when he was Penbrook?

Veering back to Chris Jones, I have been lurking on the 49ers sub since the Super Bowl. Jones is often referred to as "The Monster in the Middle."

There's still a huge debate among Niners fans over whether Shanny Jr. was correct in throwing the ball on 2nd and 5 in the 4th quarter. Poor dudes.

I will rush there. He has every right to hold out. He played out the contract that he signed and is now looking to make what he is due. He gave us a **** ton of production and got paid jack shit while doing it. Now people want to call him greedy because he wants to be paid what he is worth? He's supposed to give a discount to a team that gave up a 1st round pick, 3rd round pick, and $100+ million dollars for another D linemen from another team when he was trying to get paid and had just come off a 15.5 sack season?

Chris Jones may have taken a hometown deal, but then the Chiefs said "**** you" to Chris and went and got Frank Clark. I know part of the reason why there have been no contract talks is because they were working on Patrick Mahomes' contract, but Brett Veach very clearly isnt dumb and he's definitely not going to disrespect Chris with a low ball offer.

Now that Mahomes' contract is done and he gave the Chiefs cap flexibility for the next several years we will see if Chris Jones is in the future plans of the Chiefs. Im still holding out hope that he is and will be signed by the 15th. The Chiefs could have signed Pat anytime, but they did it with over a week left to get Chris signed. Hopefully the timing isn't just a coincidence.

I'd be there as well if I could. I'd drive the 1500 miles to be there, if I hadn't used up most of my vaca time going fishing. CJ had himself a good season and a really good post-season and was a big part of the Chiefs winning their 2nd SB. He should get paid, and I really hope his payday comes from the Chiefs.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">If it’s in God plan it will happen</p>&mdash; Chris Jones (@StoneColdJones) <a href="https://twitter.com/StoneColdJones/status/1281249941332074504?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 9, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

FYI Jones also said he will have the Lombardi with him at the autograph signing ��

CJ needs to sign his damned contract, win multiple SB's and go in the HOF some day.

This is his best chance to have a HOF career.

Prediction: Jones is just hoping the Chiefs blink. An hour before the trade deadline he'll settle for something reasonable. Probably a 4 year deal that the Chiefs can exit after two with some pain, and 3 with very little pain.

Jones will not sign for less than Frank Clark($20.8 mil/year) or Deforest Buckner($21 mil/year). I bet he wants $21.5 mil/yr and has no intentions of signing for less than that. It's the way contracts work for the elite players. The next guy gets paid a little more than the one that was paid before him. If the Chiefs don't want to pay him that much then Jones will go to a team that will and if he hits FA I can guarantee almost the entire league will be trying to sign him. Hes not gonna take some low ball offer after we told him to **** off and gave Frank Clark the contract he was asking for.

He won’t hit free agency. He signs here or he’s traded to a team that signs him.

God = Veach

You keep mentioning low ball offers , I am quite sure the Chiefs aren’t trying to low ball him.And who said anything about a home town discount besides you?

Ive never said the Chiefs are trying to lowball him. I actually think the Chiefs and Jones haven't been talking because the Chiefs know what it takes and don't want to disrespect him by lowballing him, but they didn't know exactly how Pats contract would go I said he wont sign a lowball offer, which in CJ's mind anything less than Frank Clark's contract is a lowball offer, in response to this

Unless im taking it wrong, "He'll settle for something reasonable" seems like a jab at CJ and means he should take less than hes worth. I don't have any insider info, but I think Jones is wanting FC's contract or maybe just a little more and that seems very reasonable to me.

You have to be joking with the hometown discount thing. This thread alone is littered with people saying he should take less to stay and turn those millions into titles! **** that. Maybe they should have given him an extension last year before they got Frank and we would have gotten him for a little less. Probably could have gotten him for $18.5-$19mil/year instead of $21 mil/year.

Personally I’m glad we traded for Frank and won a Super Bowl.

No doubt.

Dude was half-powered for the first part of the season and still managed 13 sacks last season including 5 (!) in three playoff/SB games.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">She’s here, she’s ready, &amp; she’s coming!!! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChampTalk?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChampTalk</a> <a href="https://t.co/WzqlUECquN">pic.twitter.com/WzqlUECquN</a></p>&mdash; Chris Jones (@StoneColdJones) <a href="https://twitter.com/StoneColdJones/status/1281653772456849408?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 10, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I am too. Im just sayimy the way we could have gotten him cheaper was to sign him before trading for Clark.

Veach needs to send somebody with the signature page of Jones contract to this event.

If they had extended Jones before last season he almost certainly would have counted more against the cap than he did. That might have precluded them from adding someone like Breeland, and their cap would be a LOT less flexible now.

Have we signed this badass yet?

I dont know if that's necessarily true though. He would have still been playing on his rookie deal and his cap hit would have stayed the same just like with Pat. This year would have been the beginning of his new deal and more than likely would have had a low cap hit in the 1st year. Signing him before Frank Clarks deal happened and Buckners deal would have saved us a couple mil a year, but now he can take Clarks deal and the 1st and 3rd rounder we gave up and Buckners deal and the high 1st rounder the Colts gave up for him and use those to drive up his price. He knows a team would pay him more than those 2 got and he's not taking any less. I'd do the same thing.

I wish

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I love you KC 🤞🏾....The Fan support here is amazing</p>&mdash; Chris Jones (@StoneColdJones) <a href="https://twitter.com/StoneColdJones/status/1281788488065724416?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 11, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>