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New World Order 10-04-2015 08:13 PM

Because we are the Chiefs

jspchief 10-04-2015 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 11775744)
Why did Reid take Charles out of the game for ENTIRE offensive drives in the second half?

I get wanting to keep him fresh and rotating West in (who I guess is the back-up RB now over Davis?)

But can't this be done with a few plays, without having to bench Charles for entire drives?

I think Charles got injured. One of his legs got twisted up after a run and West got the carries for a few series after that.

I'm not excusing Reid's inability to establish the run, but in this case I think he went to West due to the hit Charles took.

the Talking Can 10-04-2015 08:28 PM

both 4th quarter fgs are worthy of pink slips


it's ryan leaf level coaching

jspchief 10-04-2015 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 11775817)
Since I refused to watch the game. Did I read this right that they got the delay of game coming out of a time out?

Please , please tell me this isn't true.

The clock was ****ed up. Both the delay of game and the timeout were a mess because something was going on with the clock down on the field.

And you didn't watch the game, so stfu and gtfo

rabblerouser 10-05-2015 05:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 11776177)
The clock was ****ed up. Both the delay of game and the timeout were a mess because something was going on with the clock down on the field.

So we get a penalty...Because clocks were a mess??

jspchief 10-05-2015 06:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 11776529)
So we get a penalty...Because clocks were a mess??

That's what the announcers said. Whether it's accurate, I don't know. Apparently Smith said he thought it was a tv timeout before he called timeout. Either way, coming out of a timeout and needing another immediately is pretty inexcusable.

Chiefnj2 10-05-2015 06:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 11776173)
both 4th quarter fgs are worthy of pink slips


it's ryan leaf level coaching

Playing for the Monday morning newspaper final score is inexcusable. I despise coaches who do that.

Reerun_KC 10-05-2015 06:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 11776177)
The clock was ****ed up. Both the delay of game and the timeout were a mess because something was going on with the clock down on the field.

And you didn't watch the game, so stfu and gtfo

ROFL

So now the clocks were messed up? Evven better.

rabblerouser 10-05-2015 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 11776534)
That's what the announcers said.

Well, they also said that Kelce's elbow was down on the fumble...

RunKC 10-05-2015 06:46 AM

We aren't even running the WCO anymore. It looks like we are running the spread offense.

rabblerouser 10-05-2015 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 11776573)
We aren't even running the WCO anymore. It looks like we are running the spread offense.

We are.

About 5 years too late.

:doh!:

TEX 10-05-2015 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 11776563)
Well, they also said that Kelce's elbow was down on the fumble...


It was. There was no doubt.

rabblerouser 10-05-2015 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 11776613)
It was. There was no doubt.

My point is, what is obvious to everyone doesn't seem to matter to the refs at this point...

Pasta Little Brioni 10-05-2015 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 11776563)
Well, they also said that Kelce's elbow was down on the fumble...

THIRD time he has fumbled and the refs blew the call.

rabblerouser 10-05-2015 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 11776681)
THIRD time he has fumbled and the refs blew the call.

:hmmm:

I see a pattern here...

But I'm crazy, so I'll refrain from telling you what I really think.

Pasta Little Brioni 10-05-2015 08:41 AM

Please tell. Remember the Arizona ****ening that kept them.out of the playoffs?

RunKC 10-05-2015 08:42 AM

WTF has happened to this coaching staff? They were very good in most of the game last year and hve looked like garbage the last 3 weeks.

It's like the wheels fell off and the wagon caught on fire

rabblerouser 10-05-2015 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 11776689)
Please tell. Remember the Arizona ****ening that kept them.out of the playoffs?

Reid totally shit the bed there, as well as the SF game.

And in the playoffs in Jan 2014.

3 huge games that ANDY REID personally blew.

Chiefnj2 10-05-2015 08:56 AM

Everyone but Andy knows Smith is a disaster.

Bengals Post-game quote:

“We knew Alex Smith panics like any other quarterback who gets pressure,” Peko said. “He looks at the rush, not like other quarterbacks that look to throw the ball. He’s looking at the rush to try and get away because he’s quicker.”

Brock 10-05-2015 09:13 AM

Andy reid is the same guy he was 5 years ago. His decision making and his tendencies are probably more well documented than most, unlike a guy like belichek who is always putting on a new wrinkle.

GloryDayz 10-05-2015 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 11776573)
We aren't even running the WCO anymore. It looks like we are running the spread offense.

I think what we're "running" has yet to be defined by any authoritative football body/group. Well, "Monkey ****ing a football" is seems pretty close, but few are allowed to say such truths. But the "Mass Confusion" offense/defense might be a term that's about to be coined for the idiots wearing our team's uniform and the coaches coaching them.

RunKC 10-05-2015 10:06 AM

Andy has done a nice job calling drives down the field. He just majorly ****s up in certain situations and his QB can't make plays.

4 60+ drives on the Denver D and 7x in FG range in Cincy. Obviously this offense has pieces but can't finish.

A new QB and play caller would do wonders.

GloryDayz 10-05-2015 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 11776712)
Everyone but Andy knows Smith is a disaster.

Bengals Post-game quote:

“We knew Alex Smith panics like any other quarterback who gets pressure,” Peko said. “He looks at the rush, not like other quarterbacks that look to throw the ball. He’s looking at the rush to try and get away because he’s quicker.”

I think Andy knows he's a disaster, there's just nothing he will do about it because it would cause waves and friction to the hand that's feeding him. Andy prolly knows that Alex is the only QB, short of a draft, that won't fight playing for a Hunt-owned team. And all college QBs sleep better at night knowing that Hunt still keep the "Draft a QB" ban in place. So we can't attract a proven QB, and we won't draft one, but there's that.

rabblerouser 10-05-2015 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 11776712)
Everyone but Andy knows Smith is a disaster.

Bengals Post-game quote:

“We knew Alex Smith panics like any other quarterback who gets pressure,” Peko said. “He looks at the rush, not like other quarterbacks that look to throw the ball. He’s looking at the rush to try and get away because he’s quicker.”

Elvis Grbac??

rabblerouser 10-11-2015 11:17 AM

Back at it with terrible play calling early vs the Bears...

Coach 10-11-2015 11:35 AM

3rd and 1, and you go on a shot gun and pass?

What a joke.

Aspengc8 10-11-2015 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach (Post 11789695)
3rd and 1, and you go on a shot gun and pass?

What a joke.

Andy Reid drinking game- a shot every time he throws on 3rd and less than 2.

jspchief 10-11-2015 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Aspengc8 (Post 11789712)
Andy Reid drinking game- a shot every time he throws on 3rd and less than 2.

Alcohol poisoning

rabblerouser 10-11-2015 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach (Post 11789695)
3rd and 1, and you go on a shot gun and pass?

What a joke.

3rd and 5 with JC on the sideline...

rabblerouser 10-11-2015 02:10 PM

Same as it ever was...

rabblerouser 11-15-2015 05:10 PM

Nice 2 minute drill, Fat Andy...

rabblerouser 01-18-2016 02:33 PM

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rabblerouser 01-18-2016 02:35 PM

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okcchief 01-18-2016 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 11776825)
Andy has done a nice job calling drives down the field. He just majorly ****s up in certain situations and his QB can't make plays.

4 60+ drives on the Denver D and 7x in FG range in Cincy. Obviously this offense has pieces but can't finish.

A new QB and play caller would do wonders.

QB was his choice.

lawrenceRaider 01-18-2016 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 12037848)
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I was rooting for KC to beat the Pats. I felt bad for KC fan at this point in the game because of how much time the offense wasted moving down the field.

KC got Reided.

jd1020 01-18-2016 05:14 PM

Patriots in hurry up defense.

HemiEd 01-18-2016 06:02 PM

This was not the game to defer the coin toss after winning it. Playing from behind the whole game, bad mistake.

King_Chief_Fan 01-18-2016 06:44 PM

No....Herm Edwards and Romeo Crennel are terrible head coaches.
Reid has won more games with the Chiefs in the first 3 years than any other HC has.

New World Order 01-18-2016 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 12038232)
Patriots in hurry up defense.


Haha

rabblerouser 01-18-2016 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 12038302)
This was not the game to defer the coin toss after winning it. Playing from behind the whole game, bad mistake.

I can see that logic, but the offense had more than enough opportunity to put points on that board in the 2nd half...they just didn't.

Something tells me Andy didn't want to go 3 and out on O to start the game.

Idk. Dammed if ya do, etc

rabblerouser 01-18-2016 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan (Post 12038406)
No....Herm Edwards and Romeo Crennel are terrible head coaches.
Reid has won more games with the Chiefs in the first 3 years than any other HC has.

Reid has just as many Super Bowl rings as a HC as either one of them, except he's had supportive management and a stable organization, along with like 16 or 17 straight years of experience.

Herm got shit canned in the middle of a rebuild, and Crennel got Piolied with one of the worst rosters ever assembled in the NFL. Soft schedule or not, Todd Haley is a stud for winning the division with that dung heap.

What's Reid's excuse for never having had won a SB??
Reid is the same coach as Herm or Romeo in my eyes.

GloryDayz 01-18-2016 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 12038682)
Reid has just as many Super Bowl rings as a HC as either one of them, except he's had supportive management and a stable organization, along with like 16 or 17 straight years of experience.

Herm got shit canned in the middle of a rebuild, and Crennel got Piolied with one of the worst rosters ever assembled in the NFL. Soft schedule or not, Todd Haley is a stud for winning the division with that dung heap.

What's Reid's excuse for never having had won a SB??
Reid is the same coach as Herm or Romeo in my eyes.

Ouch...

ChiefGator 01-19-2016 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 12038682)
Reid is the same coach as Herm or Romeo in my eyes.

Well, damn near everyone in the league would disagree with you on that one.

MIAdragon 01-19-2016 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefGator (Post 12038999)
Well, damn near everyone in the league would disagree with you on that one.

The end results were all the same....

ChiefGator 01-19-2016 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MIAdragon (Post 12039008)
The end results were all the same....

So each year there is only ONE coach that is worth a damn?

MIAdragon 01-19-2016 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefGator (Post 12039115)
So each year there is only ONE coach that is worth a damn?


When the end result year after year is the same but you expect different is.....

He is what he is, and it's not a small sample size.

rabblerouser 01-19-2016 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefGator (Post 12039115)
So each year there is only ONE coach that is worth a damn?

Every year, one coach gets to add his name to the list of 'coaches worth a damn'.

So, active coaches worth a damn in the NFL :

Belichick
John Harbaugh
Sean Payton
Pete Carroll
Mike Tomlin
Mike McCarthy

The Giants fired Coughlin, but I guess he was getting soft in his old age (he used to be 'boot-in-ass' back when they were winning SBs)


Everyone else is green and learning the ropes (Gus Bradley) or just good enough retreads (Reid, John Fox)

That's all there is.

rabblerouser 01-19-2016 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MIAdragon (Post 12039129)
When the end result year after year is the same but you expect different is.....

He is what he is, and it's not a small sample size.

EXACTLY.

It's what Reid has done year in, year out for 17 straight seasons.

rabblerouser 01-19-2016 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MIAdragon (Post 12039008)
The end results were all the same....

Same as it ever was...

Same as it ever was...

rabblerouser 01-19-2016 03:35 PM

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Fast forward to the 4th quarter and the eagles down by two scores lol its like groundhog day

rabblerouser 01-19-2016 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by D2112 (Post 12039919)
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Fast forward to the 4th quarter and the eagles down by two scores lol its like groundhog day

Yup.

It's who he is. That's the best he's ever done. Ever.

Discuss Thrower 01-19-2016 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 12040099)
Yup.

It's who he is. That's the best he's ever done. Ever.

And it took bringing in Terrell Owens to get that far.

OctoberFart 01-19-2016 05:20 PM

Did Andy say this in his post game?

rabblerouser 01-19-2016 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 12040102)
And it took bringing in Jeremy Maclin to get that far.

Indeed.

rabblerouser 01-19-2016 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OctoberFart (Post 12040111)
Did Andy say this in his post game?

You know he did.

Pasta Little Brioni 01-19-2016 11:26 PM

You blew the game with the avy change

Bob Dole 01-20-2016 12:01 AM

Cleveland and Oakland are the blueprints.

We should turn over the coaching staff!

Pasta Little Brioni 01-20-2016 12:12 AM

Win 11 in a row followed by a loss to a team that's been unbeaten at full strength....FIRE REID SUTTON DEEEEERP

rabblerouser 01-20-2016 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Dole (Post 12040668)
Cleveland and Oakland are the blueprints.

We should turn over the coaching staff!

This is who he is - a decent regular season coach who has won exactly ONE (1) playoff game without Jim Johnson as his DC.

Against Houston and Brian ****ing Hoyer.

I'd rather have Marty back. At least the defense would play to its potential. This team is too talented and too deep to not reach the championship game. And so now they will have Brady/Manning AGAIN. Which is what the league really wants anyway...

rabblerouser 01-20-2016 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 12040672)
Win 11 in a row followed by a loss to a team that's been unbeaten at full strength....FIRE REID SUTTON DEEEEERP

11 in a row to backups and teams that you're supposed to beat.

When we were playing the REAL teams early on, Reid & Co got out coached to the tune of 1-5.

We got clobbered by Green Bay, Cincy, and Denver. Hell, even Jay ****ing Cutler completed the only 2 passes needed to secure a victory. We're damn lucky we didn't get beat by SD and Oak at the end of the season.

Again, this team is so ****ing talented and deep...Dorsey is the man. Andy is just good enough to keep the team relevant and winning enough to be respectable. And we all know the organization needed to take a giant step toward respectability.

Unfortunately, that giant step has been taken and apparently most people are fine with that.

Andy Reid has clock management issues and has no situational awareness. It's painful to sit through.

Unfortunately, it's how he's always been. It's who he is. He will not win a Super Bowl as a Head coach with terrible game management and no situational awareness.

Rausch 01-20-2016 07:21 AM

It's a GOOD IDEA to waste 4 of the last six minutes where you're down by 14...

rabblerouser 01-20-2016 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 12040772)
It's a GOOD IDEA to waste 4 of the last six minutes where you're down by 14...

ROFL

Good coaches do that all the time. No one ever sees it coming.

New World Order 01-20-2016 07:30 AM

We were all ready to throw in the towel on this coaching staff until we started playing a cream puff schedule and went on a winning streak.

rabblerouser 01-20-2016 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 12040781)
We were all ready to throw in the towel on this coaching staff until we started playing a cream puff schedule and went on a winning streak.

That 11 games is as distant in my rear view as that cockameme 9-0 bullshit start he had here.

A cream puff schedule against backups and teams you should always beat.

Houston had no business even being in the playoffs. They're a terrible team, and we should have beaten them 42-0. Of course we got buzz sawed against NE - Andy Reid gets outcoached. A lot.

Rausch 01-20-2016 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 12040781)
We were all ready to throw in the towel on this coaching staff until we started playing a cream puff schedule and went on a winning streak.

Again, I think Dorsey has has changed his approach and proven himself.

I don't think the coaches have...

New World Order 01-20-2016 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 12040784)
That 11 games is as distant in my rear view as that cockameme 9-0 bullshit start he had here.

A cream puff schedule against backups and teams you should always beat.

Houston had no business even being in the playoffs. They're a terrible team, and we should have beaten them 42-0. Of course we got buzz sawed against NE - Andy Reid gets outcoached. A lot.


If Andrew Luck stays healthy we likely don't get a playoff win.

Rausch 01-20-2016 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 12040789)
If Andrew Luck stays healthy we likely don't get a playoff win.

He's $3it.

His talent is as high as anyone's ever has been, but as of now, he's an absolute dog$3it QB...

Trivers 01-20-2016 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 12040784)
That 11 games is as distant in my rear view as that cockameme 9-0 bullshit start he had here.

A cream puff schedule against backups and teams you should always beat.

Houston had no business even being in the playoffs. They're a terrible team, and we should have beaten them 42-0. Of course we got buzz sawed against NE - Andy Reid gets outcoached. A lot.

This type of post is why I spend $20/month on CP.

Pure comedy gold.

"11 game willing streaks in the NFL mean nothing???"

Please continue! Don't stop! Good stuff! ROFL

Trivers 01-20-2016 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 12040789)
If Andrew Luck stays healthy we likely don't get a playoff win.

ROFL:clap:ROFL

Bearcat 01-20-2016 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trivers (Post 12040821)
This type of post is why I spend $20/month on CP.

Pure comedy gold.

"11 game willing streaks in the NFL mean nothing???"

Please continue! Don't stop! Good stuff! ROFL

Did they get a ribbon for it or something?

Lex Luthor 01-20-2016 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 12038682)
Reid is the same coach as Herm or Romeo in my eyes.

You obviously masturbate too much. You've gone blind.

Andy Reid is not perfect. But if you think he is the same coach as Herm and Romeo, you are blind.

rabblerouser 01-20-2016 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lex Luthor (Post 12040900)
You obviously masturbate too much. You've gone blind.

Andy Reid is not perfect. But if you think he is the same coach as Herm and Romeo, you are blind.

That looked like a Herm Edwards team out there last Saturday. That final drive was classic "snatched defeat from the jaws of victory during the big game" Herm.

Romeo never had a team with any talent to coach, and was a clueless buffoon. Herm had a decent record from NY when he got here and got fired in the middle of a rebuild.

Either one of them could have mismanaged the clock last Saturday just as well as Reid did...I'm sure of it.

How much I polish my bishop has nothing to do with it.

rabblerouser 01-20-2016 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trivers (Post 12040821)
This type of post is why I spend $20/month on CP.

Pure comedy gold.

"11 game willing streaks in the NFL mean nothing???"

Please continue! Don't stop! Good stuff! ROFL

That 11 game win streak is worth a lot of money to Chunt.

Absolutely meaningless to me.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 12040829)
Did they get a ribbon for it or something?

Exactly

Trivers 01-20-2016 11:48 AM

[QUOTE=rabblerouser;12041094]That 11 game win streak is worth a lot of money to Chunt.

Absolutely meaningless to me.

And who are you to the Chiefs?

rabblerouser 01-20-2016 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trivers (Post 12041101)


And who are you to the Chiefs?

A former season ticket holder, and recovering homer.

GloryDayz 01-20-2016 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 12040773)
ROFL

Good coaches do that all the time. No one ever sees it coming.

I guess that's so they didn't have to listen to the time-honored, "they might have left too much time on the clock" had we scored fast, got the OSK (or got them to go 3-and-out), and scored a 2nd TD quickly. So not wasting all that time would have set them up for insult.

Logic.......................Reason (connect the dots)


So there's that.

rabblerouser 01-20-2016 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 12041278)
I guess that's so they didn't have to listen to the time-honored, "they might have left too much time on the clock" had we scored fast, got the OSK (or got them to go 3-and-out), and scored a 2nd TD quickly. So not wasting all that time would have set them up for insult.

Logic.......................Reason (connect the dots)


So there's that.

Are you serious?? "Insult"??

NO.

It's what you have a ****ing defense for, duh. A supposedly great one when they man everyone up and knock the shit out of people. Don't know why they didn't just play their game and make the Patriots do the adjusting.

I'm baffled. **** 'insults' - at that point, you need as many points as possible. As quickly as possible.

YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME.

(I'd post the Herm meme, but photobucket is down for maintenance.)

New World Order 01-20-2016 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 12041036)
That looked like a Herm Edwards team out there last Saturday. That final drive was classic "snatched defeat from the jaws of victory during the big game" Herm.

Romeo never had a team with any talent to coach, and was a clueless buffoon. Herm had a decent record from NY when he got here and got fired in the middle of a rebuild.

Either one of them could have mismanaged the clock last Saturday just as well as Reid did...I'm sure of it.

How much I polish my bishop has nothing to do with it.


Especially the offense in the first half.

GloryDayz 01-20-2016 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 12041576)
Are you serious?? "Insult"??

NO.

It's what you have a ****ing defense for, duh. A supposedly great one when they man everyone up and knock the shit out of people. Don't know why they didn't just play their game and make the Patriots do the adjusting.

I'm baffled. **** 'insults' - at that point, you need as many points as possible. As quickly as possible.

YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME.

(I'd post the Herm meme, but photobucket is down for maintenance.)

I don't disagree, I'm clearly in the "WTF Andy?" camp! I'm just saying what nutty synaptic fires where going off inside Andy's cranium...

I know, I know, I'm trying to rationalize insanity.


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