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Amnorix 10-28-2015 08:15 AM

Most places around here are somewhere at or above $2.00 per gallon, but a few places are a few cents under.

Hog's Gone Fishin 10-28-2015 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Dole (Post 11839676)
$1.71 yesterday morning

Yep I saw 1.69 on the way to work this morning. Texas Rocks.

penguinz 10-28-2015 12:43 PM

$1.87 in Lees Summit.. Drive 10 minutes and $2.09 in Raytown.

BlackHelicopters 10-28-2015 12:51 PM

$1.95 in JoMo

jimidollar 10-28-2015 12:52 PM

$1.79 in the crossroads of south Texas.

Donger 10-28-2015 02:34 PM

Crude up 6.39% today to $45.96

Sorry.

FD 10-28-2015 02:36 PM

$3.07 in Santa Monica. Livin' the dream.

Donger 10-28-2015 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FD (Post 11844334)
$3.07 in Santa Monica. Livin' the dream.

I'm curious, does it bother you Californians when you see that you typically pay a ~$1.00 premium compared to national average?

Coach 10-28-2015 02:41 PM

$1.87 in Randolph by I-435 this afternoon.

Bowser 10-28-2015 02:47 PM

It's strange in KC, there is a full .30 swing around various burbs, including both sides of the state line.

Donger 10-28-2015 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 11844350)
It's strange in KC, there is a full .30 swing around various burbs, including both sides of the state line.

I've discussed this with you before.

Perineum Ripper 10-28-2015 03:16 PM

2.17 up here in Kirksville today

Bowser 10-28-2015 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 11844353)
I've discussed this with you before.

You have, but this is different. Literally .15 swings from stations right down the road from each other. I will say that everywhere is trending down, but there is still disparity.

Donger 10-28-2015 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 11844397)
You have, but this is different. Literally .15 swings from stations right down the road from each other. I will say that everywhere is trending down, but there is still disparity.

That isn't abnormal.

FD 10-28-2015 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 11844336)
I'm curious, does it bother you Californians when you see that you typically pay a ~$1.00 premium compared to national average?

Literally everything is more expensive here, not just the gas. I don't like it but in the end it's the price of living in an unbelievably nice place so I can't complain too much.

Bob Dole 10-28-2015 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 11844397)
You have, but this is different. Literally .15 swings from stations right down the road from each other. I will say that everywhere is trending down, but there is still disparity.

Bob Dole saw a $0.21 difference today at stations within a mile of each other.

Was talking to one of the station owners a couple of weeks ago, and he claimed WalMart was selling for $0.01 less than his cost.Bob Dole doesn't believe that.

Donger 11-13-2015 01:18 PM

Crude down today 3.5% at $40.29. Gasoline at $2.18

The Franchise 11-13-2015 01:23 PM

$2.55 when I filled up yesterday.

Dunit35 11-13-2015 01:24 PM

$1.79 in Enid, OK

BlackHelicopters 11-13-2015 01:39 PM

$1.87 in JOMO.

Donger 12-02-2015 09:47 AM

Crude is still hovering around the $40.00 mark, but gasoline continues to fall. It may go below $2.00/gallon average nationally.

It's at $2.03/gallon right now.

seclark 12-02-2015 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 11921335)
Crude is still hovering around the $40.00 mark, but gasoline continues to fall. It may go below $2.00/gallon average nationally.

It's at $2.03/gallon right now.

so, your kids are going to get a gallon of gas, instead of a lump of coal for Christmas this year?:D
sec

Donger 12-02-2015 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seclark (Post 11921341)
so, your kids are going to get a gallon of gas, instead of a lump of coal for Christmas this year?:D
sec

They'll get nothing and like it!

philfree 12-02-2015 10:06 AM

Interesting how when the price of gas went up the price of everything went up but when the price of gas goes down the price of everything else still goes up.

Loneiguana 12-02-2015 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by philfree (Post 11921369)
Interesting how when the price of gas went up the price of everything went up but when the price of gas goes down the price of everything else still goes up.

Well.... why lower prices if consumers are still willing to pay the higher price?

philfree 12-02-2015 10:20 AM

[QUOTE=Loneiguana;11921377]Well.... why lower prices if consumers are still willing to pay the higher price?[/QUOT]

Yeah everybody understands basic economics and greed.

Donger 12-02-2015 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philfree (Post 11921369)
Interesting how when the price of gas went up the price of everything went up but when the price of gas goes down the price of everything else still goes up.

That's a pretty broad generalization.

philfree 12-02-2015 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 11921480)
That's a pretty broad generalization.

Yeah it is. I believe it's true in general though.

Donger 12-02-2015 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philfree (Post 11921494)
Yeah it is. I believe it's true in general though.

Do you have any data to support that generalization or is it just a gut feel?

philfree 12-02-2015 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 11921495)
Do you have any data to support that generalization or is it just a gut feel?

I have money and I buy things with it. So far the things I buy haven't gone down in price although gas has. An example would be the dog food I buy for my brace of English Setters. A few years back when gas prices were going up the price of a bag of the dog food I buy went up $8.00 all at once. I was like WTF? The manufacturer said they hadn't raised their prices and the retailer said that they hadn't changed the mark up and in the end it was blamed on the freight and the price of gas. Well the price of gas has gone down but the cost of the dog food has not. I suppose it hasn't gone up again but I'm pretty sure it isn't going to go down. I guess that's real life data.

BlackHelicopters 12-02-2015 12:50 PM

$1.65

Donger 12-07-2015 09:02 AM

Crude now below $40.00 at $38.70. It seems like sub $2.00/gallon gasoline isn't far off. Now at $2.02

Perineum Ripper 12-07-2015 09:07 AM

$ 1.81 here for regular and $ 2.15 for diesel

Donger 12-07-2015 12:32 PM

Wow. $37.86, down over 5%

Bowser 12-07-2015 12:35 PM

Gas was $1.63 last night. Insane.

displacedinMN 12-07-2015 06:40 PM

Costco 1.76
Hyvee 1.79
May have to start premium in the truck

BigMeatballDave 12-07-2015 07:21 PM

1.77

Boon 12-07-2015 07:26 PM

Paid $1.65 in Wichita last Friday.

scho63 12-07-2015 07:58 PM

I don't like the government adding any new taxes or fees but now would be a PERFECT time for a 5 year decreasing DEDICATED tax on gas to replenish the Transportation Trust Fund. There would be so much money available to fix our shitty infrastructure it would be silly. The only issue I worry about is the scoundrels in DC all sticking their slimy paws in there to steal money for their other pet projects and causes, just they did to the Social Security Trust fund with no money in it because they ass raped it.

Year 1: .25/gal
Year 2: .20/gal
Year 3: .15/gal
Year 4: .10/gal
Year 5: .05/gal

mnchiefsguy 12-07-2015 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 11937409)
I don't like the government adding any new taxes or fees but now would be a PERFECT time for a 5 year decreasing DEDICATED tax on gas to replenish the Transportation Trust Fund. There would be so much money available to fix our shitty infrastructure it would be silly. The only issue I worry about is the scoundrels in DC all sticking their slimy paws in there to steal money for their other pet projects and causes, just they did to the Social Security Trust fund with no money in it because they ass raped it.

Year 1: .25/gal
Year 2: .20/gal
Year 3: .15/gal
Year 4: .10/gal
Year 5: .05/gal

No thank you. If Obama could not fix things with his shovel ready projects, he does not deserve more tax money to burn.

Gas taxes hit the middle class harder than anyone--they use the most gas.

ChiTown 12-08-2015 09:39 AM

Brent Crude dropped to below $40/bbl this morning. First time it;s been below $40 since 2009. Some Analysts believe crude could get to $20 in 2016. I think they are off on that, but I don't think it's out of the question that crude could dip just below $30 for a short period. WTI is trading at ~ $37

BlackHelicopters 12-08-2015 09:50 AM

I think we are looking at $25 a barrel in 2016.
Gas $1.61 this a.m.

Frosty 12-08-2015 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 11937409)
I don't like the government adding any new taxes or fees but now would be a PERFECT time for a 5 year decreasing DEDICATED tax on gas to replenish the Transportation Trust Fund. There would be so much money available to fix our shitty infrastructure it would be silly. The only issue I worry about is the scoundrels in DC all sticking their slimy paws in there to steal money for their other pet projects and causes, just they did to the Social Security Trust fund with no money in it because they ass raped it.

Year 1: .25/gal
Year 2: .20/gal
Year 3: .15/gal
Year 4: .10/gal
Year 5: .05/gal

My state took advantage of the lower prices to push through yet another big increase in the gas tax. I believe we are the highest in the nation now.

Not that the roads are any better for it. :shake:

philfree 12-08-2015 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 11937409)
I don't like the government adding any new taxes or fees but now would be a PERFECT time for a 5 year decreasing DEDICATED tax on gas to replenish the Transportation Trust Fund. There would be so much money available to fix our shitty infrastructure it would be silly. The only issue I worry about is the scoundrels in DC all sticking their slimy paws in there to steal money for their other pet projects and causes, just they did to the Social Security Trust fund with no money in it because they ass raped it.

Year 1: .25/gal
Year 2: .20/gal
Year 3: .15/gal
Year 4: .10/gal
Year 5: .05/gal

No.

scho63 12-08-2015 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frosty (Post 11938717)
My state took advantage of the lower prices to push through yet another big increase in the gas tax. I believe we are the highest in the nation now.

Not that the roads are any better for it. :shake:

They probably just decided to raise the tax for general purposes as opposed to a dedicated tax. That's what most of the political scum love to do.

The amount of roads that have been repaved here in Northern Virginia is nothing short of astronomical. I think it's at least 3-4 BILLION dollars worth.

They are repaving everything. :clap:

Frosty 12-08-2015 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 11938962)
They probably just decided to raise the tax for general purposes as opposed to a dedicated tax. That's what most of the political scum love to do.

The amount of roads that have been repaved here in Northern Virginia is nothing short of astronomical. I think it's at least 3-4 BILLION dollars worth.

They are repaving everything. :clap:

Yeah, they always present gas tax increases as "for the roads" but nothing really happens. I am having to drive to Seattle fairly often now and I-90 over the pass into Seattle is embarrassing awful. :shake:

Donger 12-08-2015 02:35 PM

$37.51 closing. That should do it.

KC native 12-08-2015 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 11939196)
$37.51 closing. That should do it.

and donger weeps.

Donger 12-08-2015 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC native (Post 11939202)
and donger weeps.

Not at all. It's like my Christmas gift to the little people.

TIED5573 12-08-2015 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 11939246)
Not at all. It's like my Christmas gift to the little people.

Little people?

seclark 12-08-2015 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 11939246)
Not at all. It's like my Christmas gift to the little people.

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Frosty 12-08-2015 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TIED5573 (Post 11939273)
Little people?

http://img.izismile.com/img/img3/201...ple_640_35.jpg

KC native 12-08-2015 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 11939246)
Not at all. It's like my Christmas gift to the little people.

LMAO

RaiderH8r 12-09-2015 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy (Post 11937440)
No thank you. If Obama could not fix things with his shovel ready projects, he does not deserve more tax money to burn.

Gas taxes hit the middle class harder than anyone--they use the most gas.

The gas tax is the most equitable tax on the books, and it hasn't been raised since the 90s. Nor was it indexed to inflation. The highway trust fund is one of the few things that Congress doesn't routinely raid as every Member in every state gets a piece of the pie as it is. There are earmarked projects and shit in there, sure, but on the whole getting a highway bill done is a HUGE deal. And using the gas tax to pay for it is absolutely fair. Don't want to pay the tax? Take public transportation. Raising the gasoline tax and indexing it to inflation is straight up paying for your shit without adding to the deficit or using accounting tricks to move money around to create the appearance that a bill has the adequate revenue streams to pay for it.

Americans have it in their head that cheap gasoline is their birthright. The same assholes who bitch about $3.00/gal gasoline are the same assholes that stand in line to get a $5.00 venti mocha****achino every goddamn morning.

DaneMcCloud 12-09-2015 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 11939246)
Not at all. It's like my Christmas gift to the little people.

LMAO

scho63 12-09-2015 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RaiderH8r (Post 11940799)
The gas tax is the most equitable tax on the books, and it hasn't been raised since the 90s. Nor was it indexed to inflation. The highway trust fund is one of the few things that Congress doesn't routinely raid as every Member in every state gets a piece of the pie as it is. There are earmarked projects and shit in there, sure, but on the whole getting a highway bill done is a HUGE deal. And using the gas tax to pay for it is absolutely fair. Don't want to pay the tax? Take public transportation. Raising the gasoline tax and indexing it to inflation is straight up paying for your shit without adding to the deficit or using accounting tricks to move money around to create the appearance that a bill has the adequate revenue streams to pay for it.

Americans have it in their head that cheap gasoline is their birthright. The same assholes who bitch about $3.00/gal gasoline are the same assholes that stand in line to get a $5.00 venti mocha****achino every goddamn morning.

:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

Donger 12-09-2015 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11940895)
LMAO

Why are people laughing at that?

Donger 12-09-2015 11:55 AM

I did the math once on the gasoline tax revenue generated annually and the cost of the creation of the entire interstate system. It was fun.

DaneMcCloud 12-09-2015 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RaiderH8r (Post 11940799)
The same assholes who bitch about $3.00/gal gasoline are the same assholes that stand in line to get a $5.00 venti mocha****achino every goddamn morning.

$3 dollars for gasoline? Where do you live?

I've been paying in excess of $4 dollars (often, closer to the five) for at least the past 5 years. Only recently has it dipped below $3 dollars and it's awesome.

KC native 12-09-2015 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 11940923)
I did the math once on the gasoline tax revenue generated annually and the cost of the creation of the entire interstate system. It was fun.

Your calculation leaves out inflation.

Donger 12-09-2015 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC native (Post 11940995)
Your calculation leaves out inflation.

No, it didn't.

KC native 12-09-2015 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 11940997)
No, it didn't.

Yes, it did.

FD 12-09-2015 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RaiderH8r (Post 11940799)
The gas tax is the most equitable tax on the books, and it hasn't been raised since the 90s. Nor was it indexed to inflation. The highway trust fund is one of the few things that Congress doesn't routinely raid as every Member in every state gets a piece of the pie as it is. There are earmarked projects and shit in there, sure, but on the whole getting a highway bill done is a HUGE deal. And using the gas tax to pay for it is absolutely fair. Don't want to pay the tax? Take public transportation. Raising the gasoline tax and indexing it to inflation is straight up paying for your shit without adding to the deficit or using accounting tricks to move money around to create the appearance that a bill has the adequate revenue streams to pay for it.

Americans have it in their head that cheap gasoline is their birthright. The same assholes who bitch about $3.00/gal gasoline are the same assholes that stand in line to get a $5.00 venti mocha****achino every goddamn morning.

Yep, the Highway Trust Fund goes entirely to its specific purpose, infrastructure maintenance, and can't be spent on anything else. For many years now, the gas tax revenue that goes into the fund have been well short of the actual needed highway spending and that spending has had to come from other tax sources.

It's long past time to raise the gas tax and improve our roads.

Donger 12-09-2015 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC native (Post 11941001)
Yes, it did.

We consume 134.5 billion gallons of gasoline each year. The federal tax on a gallon of gasoline is $0.184/gallon. That's $24.7 billion in taxes each year, and I didn't include taxes on diesel.

The ENTIRE interstate system was built with $425 billion (2006 dollars).

Hydrae 12-09-2015 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RaiderH8r (Post 11940799)
The gas tax is the most equitable tax on the books, and it hasn't been raised since the 90s. Nor was it indexed to inflation. The highway trust fund is one of the few things that Congress doesn't routinely raid as every Member in every state gets a piece of the pie as it is. There are earmarked projects and shit in there, sure, but on the whole getting a highway bill done is a HUGE deal. And using the gas tax to pay for it is absolutely fair. Don't want to pay the tax? Take public transportation. Raising the gasoline tax and indexing it to inflation is straight up paying for your shit without adding to the deficit or using accounting tricks to move money around to create the appearance that a bill has the adequate revenue streams to pay for it.

Americans have it in their head that cheap gasoline is their birthright. The same assholes who bitch about $3.00/gal gasoline are the same assholes that stand in line to get a $5.00 venti mocha****achino every goddamn morning.

Rather than trying to index to inflation I think they should set it at a percent of pump prices. Either way, having it set at a hard value (I think it is like 18 cents per gallon) is not effective.

RaiderH8r 12-09-2015 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11940926)
$3 dollars for gasoline? Where do you live?

I've been paying in excess of $4 dollars (often, closer to the five) for at least the past 5 years. Only recently has it dipped below $3 dollars and it's awesome.

$3/gal seems to generally the tipping point for bitching for most folks.

scho63 12-09-2015 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 11941006)
We consume 134.5 billion gallons of gasoline each year. The federal tax on a gallon of gasoline is $0.184/gallon. That's $24.7 billion in taxes each year, and I didn't include taxes on diesel.

The ENTIRE interstate system was built with $425 billion (2006 dollars).

If my 5 year declining tax hike was implemented, it would raise $100 billion ADDITIONAL dollars for roads and bridges. That's a nice chunk of change for just infrastructure.

DaneMcCloud 12-09-2015 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RaiderH8r (Post 11941049)
$3/gal seems to generally the tipping point for bitching for most folks.

Maybe where you live. Where I live it's seen as awesome.

Try paying $4.59 a gallon for about five years.

scho63 12-09-2015 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11941140)
Maybe where you live. Where I live it's seen as awesome.

Try paying $4.59 a gallon for about five years.

Sounds like you have a lot in common with this woman......:eek:

Woman 'raped 43,200' times speaks out about Mexico's human trafficking rings

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a6730436.html

Donger 12-09-2015 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 11941129)
If my 5 year declining tax hike was implemented, it would raise $100 billion ADDITIONAL dollars for roads and bridges. That's a nice chunk of change for just infrastructure.

If ~8% of what it took to build the ENTIRE interstate system is taken in tax revenue EVERY YEAR (and it is), I would argue that we don't have a tax revenue problem as it pertains to maintaining our roads and bridges.

DaneMcCloud 12-09-2015 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 11941148)
Sounds like you have a lot in common with this woman......:eek:

Woman 'raped 43,200' times speaks out about Mexico's human trafficking rings

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a6730436.html

LMAO

Valiant 12-09-2015 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FD (Post 11941003)
Yep, the Highway Trust Fund goes entirely to its specific purpose, infrastructure maintenance, and can't be spent on anything else. For many years now, the gas tax revenue that goes into the fund have been well short of the actual needed highway spending and that spending has had to come from other tax sources.

It's long past time to raise the gas tax and improve our roads.

We have enough, the problem is how we spend it.

Donger 12-10-2015 05:10 PM

WTI closed at $36.76 a barrel today. Gasoline will likely go sub-$2.00 tomorrow.

scho63 12-10-2015 06:25 PM

How low will it go? $30, $28, $25, $20

I wouldn't be shocked if gas touches $1.25 a gallon or possibly as low as $1.00

If oil hits $20-25 a barrel, BUY ALL THE MAJOR OIL STOCKS YOU CAN AFFORD!

Donger 12-10-2015 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 11943762)
How low will it go? $30, $28, $25, $20

I wouldn't be shocked if gas touches $1.25 a gallon or possibly as low as $1.00

If oil hits $20-25 a barrel, BUY ALL THE MAJOR OIL STOCKS YOU CAN AFFORD!

I don't see sub-$30.00.

Maybe $1.50 or $1.75 on gasoline.

Spott 12-10-2015 06:39 PM

Filled up for 1.87 today. Probably the lowest I've paid in Florida since 2008.

CapsLockKey 12-10-2015 09:31 PM

Enjoy it while you can. According to our fleet manager who watches the market very closely, it's the middle east with their infinitely deep cash reserves that are flooding the market to get the price down to unprofitable levels to force their competition out of business.

Squalor2 12-10-2015 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 11940923)
I did the math once on the gasoline tax revenue generated annually and the cost of the creation of the entire interstate system. It was fun.

lol. wtf?

DaneMcCloud 12-10-2015 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spott (Post 11943782)
Filled up for 1.87 today. Probably the lowest I've paid in Florida since 2008.

Either you were barely out of gas or you have the smallest gas tank like, ever.

Fat Elvis 12-10-2015 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11944295)
Either you were barely out of gas or you have the smallest gas tank like, ever.

Moped. He's in Florida....

That, or he just filled up an electric golf cart.


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