DDR5 bundle for the same price. Prime mobo instead of TUF, but almost exact same specs.

https://www.microcenter.com/product/...herboard-combo

damn now this is a hell of a deal...might have to go DDR5 now

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Combo...=Combo.4538225

anyone had a computer built by microcenter before?

Building computers is like building Legos. If a reerun like me can do it, anyone can.

Clay what is wrong with you? Build your own pc.

I've built several computers. The pros do a better job with cable management, airflow, etc.

Microcenter is hiring 19 year olds to do it.

You cant put cables behind the back panel?

OUR COMPUTERZ ARE FAR MORE ADVANCED

For $150 it's worth it to pay someone to do it right without any headaches.

My PC's are always rat's nests.

Yeah, calling them professionals is like calling a Burger King fry cook a chef. Any decent computer case these days already has built-in cable management solutions, and combine that with a fully modular power supply, it's child's play. But considering who we're talking about, hardly unexpected. He'll pay the $150 beta fee...

I've literally been building computers for 20+ years. GFY.

Nobody who's been building computers for 20+ years pays Microcenter $150 to put together a machine. You're not fooling anyone. There's fewer cables than ever before, and literally any modern case has well engineered cable management built it, including affixed velcro loops and gaps in the case specifically for the exact cables you need to route. You're just being a lazy simp.

Well, yeah. I just know someone else can do it better than I can, and then I don't have to deal with it. That's kinda the point. LMAO

**** off and recommend me another POS Mac, that's what you're best at.

I'm a fan of Asus hardware. Especially the TUF line. I've had several generations of ASUS TUF hardware, and it's been rock solid for me under pretty harsh overclocked conditions. Here's my ideal TUF system that I'm in the process of putting together. I've got most of the parts already. Needing the CPU/mobo/RAM DDR5 finishing combo upgrade next, just waiting for the right price.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XBt9k9

A Mac would still be better for your intended usage. Sorry, but it's true. Surprised you don't embrace the Apple ecosystem. Seems much more your MO...