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rabblerouser 10-07-2016 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Aspengc8 (Post 12465796)
One issue is the execution of the bubbles/screens they run. From watching the A22, most of the time its a good call, ie we are getting a 3x2 advantage. Problem is we are missing blocks.

3x2- bubble should net positive yardage. Defense slides a defender out, or goes man for a 3x3 look, check to run because there are less in the box. Spread offense is pretty simple, but they need to execute.

Blocking is atrocious, but the entire offensive execution has been exactly that : atrocious. Receivers dropping passes off the hands, blown blocks by everyone, missed reads by the QB, fumbles by the RBs, terrible play calling...plenty of blame to go around.

Sweet Daddy Hate 10-07-2016 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 12471007)
Philly stomped Pittsburgh.

Pit stomped us.

Doug Pedersen has Philly humming. Reid still has KC stuck in neutral. Or reverse...

They tried to deny it, but what is YOUR take on Pederson running the show during KC's comeback from the 5 game loss going forward last year?

KChiefs1 10-08-2016 10:44 AM

http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/w...-cassel-100812


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PAChiefsGuy 10-08-2016 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12465709)
ESPN: Andy Reid has had QB Alex Smith drop back to pass 70.9% of the time this season, tied with the JAX for most in the NFL

And that is a huge problem. Run the ball Andy and then utilize play action. That's literally what this team did last year when it played well...

To be fair I'm sure we planned on running more against Pitt and SD but we got behind so fast we really didn't have a choice.

That number will drop significantly now that Charles is back.

RunKC 10-08-2016 11:04 AM

I really don't get the fans/media blaming Dorsey for Andy's bad coaching. Look at all of the goddamn talent Dorsey has provided Andy for his offense.
Andy had to have Alex and it was decided before Doesey was even interviewed.

Andy ****ed Dorsey out of two 2nd rd picks and a 3rd to build this offense around his precious Alex and Dorsey has still provided him with as much surrounding talent as any offense in the entire league.

It's time for Andy to pull this offense out of it's own ass and start producing, and if it fails, then Andy needs to admit failure and get a new QB.

New World Order 10-08-2016 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12471810)
I really don't get the fans/media blaming Dorsey for Andy's bad coaching. Look at all of the goddamn talent Dorsey has provided Andy for his offense.
Andy had to have Alex and it was decided before Doesey was even interviewed.

Andy ****ed Dorsey out of two 2nd rd picks and a 3rd to build this offense around his precious Alex and Dorsey has still provided him with as much surrounding talent as any offense in the entire league.

It's time for Andy to pull this offense out of it's own ass and start producing, and if it fails, then Andy needs to admit failure and get a new QB.


Maclin and Kelce were probably Reid selections.

Discuss Thrower 10-08-2016 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12471810)
I really don't get the fans/media blaming Dorsey for Andy's bad coaching. Look at all of the goddamn talent Dorsey has provided Andy for his offense.
Andy had to have Alex and it was decided before Doesey was even interviewed.

Andy ****ed Dorsey out of two 2nd rd picks and a 3rd to build this offense around his precious Alex and Dorsey has still provided him with as much surrounding talent as any offense in the entire league.

It's time for Andy to pull this offense out of it's own ass and start producing, and if it fails, then Andy needs to admit failure and get a new QB.

But the OL sucks. Durrrrrrrr






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... anyway, this is probably the best receiving talent on the roster since the Vermeil era. Maclin is better than EK, Kelce is a good TE (though not in the TG stratum, obviously) and Conley brings just as much to the table as Marc Boerighter did in the early 2000s.

There's no excuse for this horrible level of offensive performance.

CoMoChief 10-08-2016 01:00 PM

Pederson is taking a rookie QB and taking the league by storm putting up good numbers leading his teams to wins.

Running the same offense essentially.

Alex Smith is a 10+yr veteran who's started pretty much his whole entire career, with exception to his rookie season and Kaepernick eventually taking over during his last season w/ SF.

He's been in Reid's offense going on 3 yrs now...again a 10-yr veteran QB.

You tell me where the problem lies. (yes Reid and his shitty ass play calling deserves much blame too).

Chiefshrink 10-08-2016 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 12465772)
Thought the whole point of the WCO, especially Reid's, was using the short passing game as an extension of the running game but also an opportunity to use mismatches to get TDs or at least big chunks of yards with the deeper passing game existing to keep defenses honest or to make up scoring deficits.

The weakness in this is in shutting down both the run and short passing game you must rely on deep passes to keep the chains moving...

Another dirty little secret that is absolutely "essential" in allowing the WCO to be amazingly effective is you must have an amazing O-line or at least a good o-line of which we do not. Our o-line is below mediocre IMO. On a scale of 1 to 10 we are a 5 when it comes to run blocking and a 2 when it comes to pass blocking and collectively it comes out to be a 3.5 overall. I assure you Alex has NEVER trusted any of his Chief o-lines since he has been here and he doesn't trust them now and it is showing for sure.

I have never been sold on Reid/Dorsey's group of guys for our o-line.

Chiefshrink 10-08-2016 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 12472012)
Pederson is taking a rookie QB and taking the league by storm putting up good numbers leading his teams to wins.

Running the same offense essentially.

Alex Smith is a 10+yr veteran who's started pretty much his whole entire career, with exception to his rookie season and Kaepernick eventually taking over during his last season w/ SF.

He's been in Reid's offense going on 3 yrs now...again a 10-yr veteran QB.

You tell me where the problem lies. (yes Reid and his shitty ass play calling deserves much blame too).

Philly has an o-line. O-line is our first problem and play calling a close 2nd I would agree.

Discuss Thrower 10-08-2016 01:52 PM

:facepalm:

Chiefshrink 10-08-2016 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 12472103)
:facepalm:

You don't agree the o-line sucks ?

notorious 10-08-2016 01:57 PM

Here we go again.

Discuss Thrower 10-08-2016 01:58 PM

Every. ****ing. Team's. Line. Sucks.

Chiefshrink 10-08-2016 01:59 PM

Let's stop with the LDT worship here as well. He is a back up at best IMO.


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