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KC_Connection 06-14-2013 06:29 PM

Played easier as the wind died down in the evening, but still very difficult overall. Looks like only Horshel and Mickelson at -1 going into tomorrow.

KC_Connection 06-14-2013 06:35 PM

Phil played the easy holes terribly and the difficult holes well today. I guess you can't expect much different with him.

'Hamas' Jenkins 06-14-2013 06:38 PM

To play 7-13 +2 and 14-18 -1...WTF

That's why Phil is so goddamned frustrating...and fascinating.

O.city 06-14-2013 09:39 PM

I had a sneaking suspicion it would play tougher than we all thought. I have a friend who's actually played Merion along with a few other US open courses, and stated it was probably the toughest he's played.

Outside of Oakmont of course, which is brutal.

One a side note, I may have a chance in a few weeks to make a trip to Tulsa and play Southern Hills. Only problem is, the wife and I are expecting our first mid to late July/Early August. So I'm not sure I'll get to make it.

O.city 06-14-2013 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9752472)
It amazes me how many guys are missing fairways with ****ing irons.

They funnel fairways at US Opens. The guys try to squeeze as much distance as they can instead of laying back and playing it to the widest part.

'Hamas' Jenkins 06-14-2013 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9753167)
They funnel fairways at US Opens. The guys try to squeeze as much distance as they can instead of laying back and playing it to the widest part.

Which is a dumbass strategy. Most of these guys hit 8-irons 170+. There is no reason why most of those guys couldn't have hit 6 iron off the tee at 10, and they still would have had a wedge in their hands.

O.city 06-14-2013 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 9753175)
Which is a dumbass strategy. Most of these guys hit 8-irons 170+. There is no reason why most of those guys couldn't have hit 6 iron off the tee at 10, and they still would have had a wedge in their hands.

Well, not really. Those are the holes you HAVE to score on. You have to make birdies there, or atleast try.

And with those greens and the slope, you can't do it consistently with 8 irons.

So I get it, but if you're hitting iron off the tee, you damn sure have to hit the fairway. Most are hitting 3 and 4 irons there, which they will hit about 230 to a 24 yard wide fairway. It's not really a tough shot, it's not easy, but it's one that they should be able to do pretty regularly.

'Hamas' Jenkins 06-14-2013 11:35 PM

On a hole like 10 you can hit 6-iron, gap wedge.

What this week has proven, more than anything, is that most pros should probably be carrying 3 and 4 hybrids.

O.city 06-14-2013 11:43 PM

I think most guys are going to hybrids lofted about at a 2/3 iron. I always carried a traditional 2 iron thinking the hybrids were an old man shtick. Finally converted myself and glad I did.

However, the only problem I have with a hybrid is that you really have to try hard to work it either way. They're built to fly straight, which is actually tough for those guys to like to do.

Its one thing I hate about the new "game". Guys with new technology don't/can't work the ball and hit golf shots. They work to have a preferred shot and thats what they hit, no matter what.

I love watching guys work the ball, especially on the range. Frankly, I would rather sit and watch tour guys hit balls on the range and/or work on their game, than I do watching them play.

'Hamas' Jenkins 06-14-2013 11:48 PM

Unfortunately, that's exactly the kind of club the modern player needs. A forgiving hybrid that he can just point and shoot, especially for a course like this.

Getting too cute with their shots is precisely why they're missing so many fairways. Aim in the middle of a 25 yard fairway and you can hit a 10 yard pull and be more than safe. Aim at the edge and double cross it and you're ****ed. Aim at the rough and hit it straight and you're hacking it out.

I actually think Mickelson made a poor choice in driving clubs. He would have been better off, IMO, to hit a 13* driver with a 43" shaft than that Frankenwood. The COR is going to be larger, so it's likely to travel farther, and that clubface would be more forgiving than a fairway wood tuned down so far.

philfree 06-15-2013 10:06 AM

http://www.meijer.com/assets/product...MBLK_A_400.jpg


I have this on my basement wall. We used to lease a building to a driving range and when they were done with it and we were picking it up I found it rolled up in a cubby hole. I took and had it framed and put it on my wall.

'Hamas' Jenkins 06-15-2013 01:03 PM

I love watching Poulter miss putts. He's a smarmy prick.

TribalElder 06-15-2013 01:03 PM

Mickelson not even carrying a driver.

lol

Glowing endorsement for callaway

'Hamas' Jenkins 06-15-2013 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 9753581)
Mickelson not even carrying a driver.

lol

Glowing endorsement for callaway

He'd be a moron to carry one on this course with the way he swings any driver. He didn't carry one at the 2008 Open either.

FWIW, he's also carrying a Titleist 5 wood that's about eight years old.

TribalElder 06-15-2013 01:21 PM

I could see why he would put the old titleist in the bag. I was blasting my old Titleist driver yesterday. The 460cc drivers are rediculous. 983E for the win!

'Hamas' Jenkins 06-15-2013 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 9753602)
I could see why he would put the old titleist in the bag. I was blasting my old Titleist driver yesterday. The 460cc drivers are rediculous. 983E for the win!

Fairway woods are entirely different animals than drivers. I guarantee you that a 913D is at least 10-12 yards longer than a 983, and considerably more forgiving as well.

'Hamas' Jenkins 06-15-2013 01:28 PM

The third hole is ****ing brutal **** whore of a par 3.

'Hamas' Jenkins 06-15-2013 01:42 PM

Mickelson was way too impatient with that chip and it just cost him a stroke. There was no need to hit it that damned hard.

Mental mistakes like that are just as damning as foolish decisions off the tee.

'Hamas' Jenkins 06-15-2013 01:54 PM

Total chunk job from Tiger.

'Hamas' Jenkins 06-15-2013 02:01 PM

Mickelson continues his absolutely atrocious putting. If he even had an average week with the flatstick he'd be five shots clear.

Rolfing: "That will not be a right edge putt."

ROFL

TribalElder 06-15-2013 02:28 PM

Phil. Has crumbled

'Hamas' Jenkins 06-15-2013 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 9753701)
Phil. Has crumbled

I don't know if I'd call bogeying 3 and 5 crumbling. His problem is his piss awful putting.

'Hamas' Jenkins 06-15-2013 02:46 PM

And Phil finally makes a putt. He needs to use that momentum to get to -2 by the time he walks off 13, because the lead is likely to be -3 or -4.

'Hamas' Jenkins 06-15-2013 02:59 PM

Tiger just bogeyed a 280 yard par 4 without hitting a shot in the rough.

'Hamas' Jenkins 06-15-2013 03:21 PM

Steve Stricker is a beast...who just made double on 9.

TribalElder 06-15-2013 04:00 PM

Hell yes phil

'Hamas' Jenkins 06-15-2013 04:05 PM

That putt at 6, which was a devilish whore of a downhiller, really righted his ship.

It has to be intimidating to play with a guy like Donald, who seems like he'd one putt every green if the hole was the size of a thimble.

TribalElder 06-15-2013 04:16 PM

LOL @ Sergio

Nice 10 bro

stonedstooge 06-15-2013 05:29 PM

Mickelson caught after missing another putt, "OMG. I can't believe I do this everytime" HAHA

tk13 06-15-2013 06:09 PM

Luke Donald doubles the final hole. Phil bogeyed it too... but finishes round 3 as the only player under par, -1. Three guys at E.

'Hamas' Jenkins 06-15-2013 06:57 PM

Phil was really unlucky to bogey that hole. He hit two excellent shots only to have the second run through into an absolutely impossible lie. He played the last 12 holes about as well as you could expect on that course.

He's hit the ball so well this week that he'd have the tournament by the balls if just a few more putts would have dropped. He putted a lot better on the second nine, but he wasn't getting a ton of those to drop. The putts on 15, 16, and 18 were all pure but either burned the edge or lacked a rotation of speed.

I was expecting Donald to shit himself like that all day. It's unsurprising to see he's still the guy who would rather finish fifth than win.

Mahan has an excellent chance tomorrow. He is probably the best driver of the golf ball alive, but I wouldn't trust him over a six footer.

I think the +3s and better have a theoretical shot, but the course is so hard and the leaderboard so good that I'd almost guarantee +1 or better wins.

I just hope that after so many disappointments that Phil finally earns his redemption.

kstater 06-16-2013 04:43 AM

Taking wagers on what hole and how Phil blows up?

TribalElder 06-16-2013 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kstater (Post 9754486)
Taking wagers on what hole and how Phil blows up?

He finally pulls it off?

KC_Connection 06-16-2013 11:40 AM

Thinking Phil wins finally. He's just got to restrict the stupid thing he does today to something small rather than something large and it should be his.

If not him, I could see Charl doing it. Been playing well all week and the pressure shouldn't be too much for him to handle. Don't think Donald or Rose have the guts to pull off a win like this.

tk13 06-16-2013 01:30 PM

Rory just hit the ball into the water twice and bent his 9-iron in frustration. I think he's had about enough of this course.

tk13 06-16-2013 01:34 PM

Meanwhile Steve Stricker hits a tee shot out of bounds, then hits a flat out shank from the fairway. I could've hit that ball. That was ugly.

tk13 06-16-2013 01:40 PM

Furthermore... Luke Donald just beaned a tee shot into a female volunteer's head. Now completely stuck behind a giant bush with no visible path to the green. Today is going to be brutal.

TribalElder 06-16-2013 02:23 PM

That shank looked like shots I hit from time to time

Al Bundy 06-16-2013 02:29 PM

What channel is this on today?

BlackHelicopters 06-16-2013 02:40 PM

Guys coming unglued.

TribalElder 06-16-2013 02:47 PM

Phil better get his shit together if he wants to win

Channel 41 in KC

BlackHelicopters 06-16-2013 02:57 PM

Clubhouse leader is +7

'Hamas' Jenkins 06-16-2013 03:06 PM

Sixteen putts through seven holes for Mickelson. You cannot underestimate how absolutely pathetic that is.

The dude just lives to choke away US Opens.

BlackHelicopters 06-16-2013 03:10 PM

Duffer in at +5

'Hamas' Jenkins 06-16-2013 03:32 PM

Twenty putts through nine holes for Mickelson. He's literally putting like a 25 handicap.

TribalElder 06-16-2013 03:32 PM

Day might win it since Phil can't make a putt to save his life

BlackHelicopters 06-16-2013 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 9755206)
Twenty putts through nine holes for Mickelson. He's literally putting like a 25 handicap.

Darn shame.

Hootie 06-16-2013 03:38 PM

Wow

stonedstooge 06-16-2013 03:39 PM

Mickelson's fall from grace after that shot will be delicious

'Hamas' Jenkins 06-16-2013 03:39 PM

OH MY ****ING GOD!!

Dartgod 06-16-2013 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 9755206)
Twenty putts through nine holes for Mickelson. He's literally putting like a 25 handicap.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 9755207)
Day might win it since Phil can't make a putt to save his life

Putt? Who needs to putt?

tk13 06-16-2013 03:39 PM

LMAO

TribalElder 06-16-2013 03:39 PM

**** yes

'Hamas' Jenkins 06-16-2013 03:40 PM

That's one way to avoid issues with the putter. He got his breaks back for shots like 15 yesterday, 2 today, and a few other putts.

'Hamas' Jenkins 06-16-2013 03:44 PM

Mickelson needs to take a deep breath now and just focus on making par at 11. He has a tendency to follow up really good holes with blowups because he loses focus.

Given that Rose has (uncharacteristically) holed so many putts, he needs to play near perfectly to win and/or force a playoff.

KC_Connection 06-16-2013 03:46 PM

Two doubles and an eagle on a ridiculous 80 yard iron shot out of deep rough already in 10 holes. Greatness courts failure, indeed.

KC_Connection 06-16-2013 03:51 PM

Rose distracted by a fan after his tee shot there. Still wonder about him handling this pressure.

KC_Connection 06-16-2013 03:55 PM

Another big putt made by him.

'Hamas' Jenkins 06-16-2013 03:55 PM

Rose is not a good putter, but he cannot ****ing miss. This is ridiculous.

He's basically careering it with the putter Retief Goosen style.

TribalElder 06-16-2013 03:56 PM

**** Justin rose tho for real

tk13 06-16-2013 03:57 PM

Rose playing great but about to enter the meat grinder. Let's see if he holds up.

TribalElder 06-16-2013 03:57 PM

Hopefully the blimp drops an aids bomb on him

'Hamas' Jenkins 06-16-2013 03:58 PM

In the strokes gained measurement, which essentially is a stat the measures mediocre putting, Rose ranks 156th on tour. He gives up almost 4/10 of a putt per round to the field average.

TribalElder 06-16-2013 04:04 PM

Deploying aids starter kit

'Hamas' Jenkins 06-16-2013 04:04 PM

Rose came out of that bigger than life. He's lucky as hell to get in that bunker.

TribalElder 06-16-2013 04:08 PM

Rain would suck more than mickelsons putting

tk13 06-16-2013 04:09 PM

Rose has a clean lie in the bunker, but shanks it.

'Hamas' Jenkins 06-16-2013 04:09 PM

Rose just shanked that bunker shot.

BlackHelicopters 06-16-2013 04:10 PM

Someone needs to man up.

TribalElder 06-16-2013 04:12 PM

Overcooked

Bogey on deck

stonedstooge 06-16-2013 04:12 PM

PHIL!

'Hamas' Jenkins 06-16-2013 04:12 PM

Phil, you ****ing idiot.

tk13 06-16-2013 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop (Post 9755281)
Someone needs to man up.

In US Open conditions, and with these brutal last five holes... it'll likely be a matter of survival now.

BlackHelicopters 06-16-2013 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 9755293)
In US Open conditions, and with these brutal last five holes... it'll likely be a matter of survival now.

Playing the last five at par would be manning up.

'Hamas' Jenkins 06-16-2013 04:14 PM

Mickelson just needs to play for bogey on this hole. Downwind in an awful lie, he'll be lucky to get it on the green.

'Hamas' Jenkins 06-16-2013 04:16 PM

Maltbie really underestimated how hard that shot is. He's a ****ing moron, but still.

TribalElder 06-16-2013 04:18 PM

Fail train coming thru.... Choooo Choooooo

Buck 06-16-2013 04:19 PM

I am streaming live through USopen.com and they are showing guys who are clearly out of the running. Is it like that on TV too or are they just ****ing me here?

'Hamas' Jenkins 06-16-2013 04:20 PM

Average putts per green for Phil: 2.17.

It wouldn't surprise me if Tiger, who finished +13, took fewer putts this week.

TribalElder 06-16-2013 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buck (Post 9755308)
I am streaming live through USopen.com and they are showing guys who are clearly out of the running. Is it like that on TV too or are they just ****ing me here?

They are on the featured group most likely which is not the final group I'm guessing


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