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Andy Reid is a terrible head football coach
(https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=294718)
Too damn bad he didn't come a year earlier. No doubt in my mind we'd be repeating Super Bowl champions right now.
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You’re talking like the guy doesn’t have a SB ring holding one of the best offenses in NFL history to 14 points (the same way they were). If you’re only going to acknowledge his failures and try to diminish his biggest accomplishment that’s not a “good argument”. Hence why they were completely wrong. |
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It’s like these coaches don’t know what a clock is |
Who would’ve known Spags would have more success with Reid/Veach/Mahomes than he did with the post Bountygate Saints and Ben ****ing McAdoo’s Giants?
Who could’ve seen that coming? |
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Phil Jackson was so successful because he bought into the triangle, an actual team offensive scheme. That's Reid. Collins IMO would be any other coach, who would just let Mahomes be Mahomes feed the ball to his star. Jordan didn't like the change, but bought into the team concept. Mahomes was lucky not to have to wait to find the right coach/system. The result is championships. |
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When did Reid win a SB?
When the league gave him a player they put in a commercial/s , seen 100 times a day. His coaching is irrelevant. |
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To say "coaching is irrelevant" is obtuse. |
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That's a fact. I called that shit. 100%. Twisted Chief and Clay can both attest to that. |
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Though I admit, I didn't think he was going to score 28 in the 2nd quarter until we got that last stop and I saw that we had over 2 minutes left on the clock. Then I turned to Scho and said something like, "we're going to go down the field right now and score another TD. Write it down." |
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2 games where the Chiefs led by Mahomes scored 28 points in a quarter. 3 games in which the Chiefs scored 35 points in a half. 7 games where the Chiefs scored at least 21 or more points in a single quarter. 27 halves in which the Mahomes-led Chiefs scored at least 21 points. |
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But, Reid was the absolute perfect fit. Mahomes is the warm humid air coming up from the Gulf, and Reid is the cool, dry air drifting down from the north. Together they have created the perfect tornado of offense. I remember the angry, hurt, disgusted look on Mahomes' face when he was walking off the field after losing the AFCCG because our defense collapsed under the pressure, and because he never got to touch the ball in overtime. The rumors at the time were that he angrily addressed the team and said we were never going to lose another game in that fashion again. We probably won't know exactly what he said until we are watching a documentary about Mahomes like the Jordan/Bulls documentary The Last Dance. But, knowing he was that upset with the team coached by Andy Reid, I can only imagine the hell he would be in if he had been drafted by Bill O'Brien and the Texans. Can you imagine how he would react to his Head Coach/GM telling him that he traded away his number one receiver? Or any other of the idiotic moves the O'Brien has made? Mahomes is a generational talent, but Andy Reid is the perfect head coach for his talents, and I think Veach is the perfect GM for his talents. Sent from my GM1915 using Tapatalk |
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He was the perfect coach for MJ, Pippen, and then MJ, Pippen, and Rodman together. And then he went to the Lakers and managed the very different personalities of Shaq and Kobe. From all the articles I've read, and all of the interviews with his players that I have watched, Andy Reid's best coaching attribute may be his ability to handle all the different personalities in the locker, and to form all those personalities into a tight, cohesive team with great chemistry. The players all say the same thing, which is he let's them be themselves. He doesn't try to take away their individuality, or stifle their unique quirks, etc. He is called a player's coach all the time, but at least during his time with the Chiefs, I have never gotten the sense that he let's the players walk all over him, or get away with whatever they want, which is often the downfall of all the other coaches known as a "player's" coach. Sent from my GM1915 using Tapatalk |
Excellent film breakdown on the evolution of the Chiefs offense.
Andy’s a genius. https://youtu.be/XnQ2lRhNhU0 |
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I believe this is the actual true Andy Reid appreciation thread. |
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I was doing work kids... |
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Andy Reid got depantsed in the Super Bowl by Bruce Arians.
Bruce ****ing Arians and Tom ****ing Brady. Well, you see, Andy Reid is an offensive genius, and how dare we question Andy Reid's genius in not running the ball and not utilizing the screen pass in the face of an epically brutal pass rush, a patchwork offensive line and a QB with a hurt toe? How dare we question his geniusness? __________________ Oh, and Spags? The "great Brady Killer"? They had his defense figured out by the 2nd quarter and he couldn't adjust it. He was Bob Sutton Jr. |
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"Oooof" is right... |
I'm sure this is going to go well.
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And they ran a bunch of screen passes that didn't work. If you watched the game, then you obviously don't know what a screen pass is. So by all mean, keep going. It just makes you look all the worse. |
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oh **** YOU
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What I remember was Mahomes dropping back and running for his life. Constantly. |
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Good grief, now you're going to triple down on dumb? |
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I'm still in ****ing shock. Bruce ****ing Arians!? Tom ****ing Brady!? Isn't Spags supposed to be the Brady Killer!? ****, at least we made it to OT against Brady in 2018, and that was with Hobo Spirit, Steven No Look Nelson, and Dee "55 Offsides" Ford and Grandpa Bob calling the plays. We got throughly outclassed, outcoached, and just plain beat in all 3 phases - offense, defense, and special teams. Total team failure. The refs also were quite an obstacle. |
I literally have no idea what it takes to get banned around here. None.
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The defense came out and forced two punts right away. Then the penalties started and the game simply slipped away. The defense got the rug pulled out from under them by piss poor officiating. |
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But the NFL doesn't manipulate games...right!? It would be impossible...right!? I'm not nearly as dumb as Shitt Gorilla wishes I was... |
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It really can't be both. |
Bad Andy showed up finally and it killed us. Why in the **** did we even draft CEH if Andy refuses to use him?
The guy was very good the entire game. He had 4 carries for 17 yards in the first half. Why would you not give that man the ball? I mean holy hell Patrick is running for his life every play and the Bucs were in cover 2! Cover freaking 2! They were literally begging us to run the ball with 6 defenders in the box. I think it’s completely fair to wonder what the **** he was thinking and why he is so stubborn. |
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Which is why I’ve said multiple times that the officiating was also a factor in only scoring 9 pts. If the game was closer, we would’ve ran it much more. |
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Oh no.... bad rabble is back.
I had it on good authority that he appreciated Andy Reid only to find out that the only benchmark is a Super Bowl victory each and every year. |
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Tyreek Hill dropped a td that went through his hands and hit him in the helmet. Mecole Hardman blew a hot read TD by not looking for the football. Darrell Williams dropped the most insanely impossible dead on the money throw for a TD. Demarcus Robinson dropped a touchdown that hit him in the hands. Travis Kelce blew multiple 3rd down conversions. The Kansas City Chiefs receivers had the opportunity to prove Mahomes is the most legendary quarterback to ever play the game. Pressured more than any qb in a superbowl, on a toe needing surgery, Mahomes made enough plays in this offensive gameplay to win this game. If the Chiefs receivers simply catch tbe football, hell even LOOK for the football, we win this game by 10-13 points. I hold Andy fully responsible for the defensive timeouts that led to spot fouls and a score. But thats always been Andy. Its not new, it was never fixed, tbe offense just bailed him out by executing. The pass catchers, and i use that term VERY ****ING LOOSELY HERE, are the reason the Chiefs lost this game. Kelce doesnt drop 3rd down in his hands, our ass punter doesnt have a chance to shank it for 27 yards. Andy stuck to his guns, stuck to what got him there,putting the ball in the hands of Mahomes. Pat made the throws under IMPOSSIBLE conditions. They simply were not caught. If we ran the ball 40 times and lost,youd be screaming HOW COULD YOU NOT GIVE MAHOMES THE BALL? HES THE BEST PLAYER ALIVE AND YOU CALL 40 RUSHES?!?? ZOMG ZOMG FIREANDYREID.COM!!!!!!!11111ONE |
The HC that came an offsides away from being in three straight SBs is a poor coach now? Arians did not outcoach Reid. The backup offensive line and questionable refereeing had more to do with our loss than Arians "outcoaching" Reid. You can't make this level of stupid up.
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I do think he was conflicted bc of his son, but he’s way smarter than that. I honestly think it was stubbornness. The team was all in on “Patrick will bail us out”. Whatever. It’s over and it’s time to move forward. Let’s start adding support for Patrick and put this shit behind us. |
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I have zero problem with trying to get out of a jam by putting the ball in Mahomes hands. If we are gonna go down, give that kid every possible chance to pull it out. Id much rather see that, than Clyde, or Darrel charging into Reiters ass and falling down after a yard. |
This loss was about 4 things, IMO:
1. Injuries along the OL - the Right side of the OL was an abortion. 2. Poor execution and lack of playmaking from our key playmakers, not named Mahomes 3. Critical penalties at far too many critical times 4. Britt Reid Accident Now, I hated, hated, HATED the fact that we were calling timeouts before half that ultimately led to Tampa's TD. They were more than willing to run that clock out and we helped them stay in the series. Huge mistake, IMO. That said, we are an aggressive team. THAT is our nature. Sometimes you win with it, and sometimes it bites you in the ass. That bit our ass. Other than that, the Staff did what they could, with what they had. Hard to blame Andy for much more than that. |
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How did we get beat so badly? I mean, other than the refs throwing the...*ahem* "questionable" penalties? This Super Bowl hurt. It leaves a very bad taste in my mouth. Worse than Billay's cum. |
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#1, your offense did NOTHING all half. Somehow you believe that 15 seconds with no timeouts, NOW you can do something? #2 We were getting the ball at half. The bucs were SURRENDERING A POSSESSION! I'm sorry, but thats a gift you dont turn away. Go in down 8 instead of 15? It changes everything. Its situational football and clock management. Neither have been Andys strong suit in the biggest games. |
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It's almost as if Andy and the refs were colluding to get Tampa a TD before the half... |
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Hellaire looked like he did in the beginning of the season. I thought for sure they were go use him to set up the pass. |
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You cannot honestly expect Reid to come to a conclusion of since we missed some huge plays, lets just stop trying and run Clyde at Suh, Vea,JPP, and Shaq the rest of the game instead. |
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Watch the mic'ed up. The Bucs were surprised as shit, they go "maybe we can get 3 out of this!" because they were going to run the clock and end the half. Andy Reid literally gave them 7 points. |
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Of all the times people cry about not playing aggressive enough, now people are blaming the timeouts when they 100% were getting the ball back with a chance to score just before halftime and again out of halftime. It was a great plan when they desperately needed some life, that was completely botched by the refs' completely unacceptable performance. The previous calls are also no excuse to just kneel on it... because those calls were so rarely awful, while you could tell your defenders to make sure you're not doing anything stupid, there was no reason to think they would call two of the worst non-contact/uncatchable DPIs anyone has ever seen. |
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The timeouts were warranted. If they had gotten the ball back and scored, the whole game changes, especially when they get the ball back to start the 3rd. Andy had no way to know that the refs were going to gift the Bucs a TD. |
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Again, either Andy made a mistake or the game is rigged. It can't be both. |
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So you tell me : Is the game rigged, and Andy is doing what he's supposed to do by helping Tampa Bay get a TD before the half? Honest question. |
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You can't have it both ways. |
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****ed off toe or not, ****ed off Oline or not...we should've DESTROYED Tampa Gay. We play our "C" game and they play their "A" game and we should've won by 10. WE BEAT THEM IN ONE QUARTER THIS PAST NOVEMBER. Seriously. |
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It's rigged. |
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There's no "should have", they had no say in it. |
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This is completely either/or. If the game is rigged then Andy was doing what he was told. There was NOTHING he could do to alter the outcome of the game and thus there's no way to blame him for anything. It's either rigged or it's not. It's that simple. |
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