Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 11739073)

FALSE ALARM.

MODS, PLEASE DELETE THREAD

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 14784305)

Nope. Rabble saw the errors of his ways at the Texans game. I was there to witness his Reidian exorcism firsthand. He was a believer after that game. And while it may have take him too long to recognize Andy’s brilliance, he wasn’t one of the morons who clung to the narrative that the guy is a bad coach if he fails to win a SB this year.

I dismiss charges against Rabble.

Originally Posted by Chiefs4TheWin (Post 14784880)

haha nice edit.

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 14784891)

It really started to change during the Chicago game this year. I think I even posted in the wake of that game that "if the team plays like that and Reid & Co call games like that, we really will win the Super Bowl. That was championship football."

I had faith in this team all through the run. I could tell they turned the corner. Twisted Chief isn't lying about the Texans game. In fact, I was a voice of positivity when we were down 24-0. "It's okay...we're good, we're going to score 28 points in the 2nd quarter...watch this."

ANDY REID IS A HALL OF FAME HEAD FOOTBALL COACH.

ANDY REID IS ONE OF THE BEST HEAD COACHES IN NFL HISTORY.

ANDY REID KNOWS HOW TO PARTY, WITH TWO TURNTABLES AND A DOUBLE CHEESEBURGER.

I LOVE ANDY REID.

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 14593984)

Yup. Either he throws games on purpose, or he's a ****ing moron.

Either way, we'll never win a SB with Reid as head coach.

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 14784905)

So, when you used the word "never", were you unsure of what such a qualifier actually means?

What did you mean by "never"?

Originally Posted by Sofa King (Post 14784931)

It's getting pitiful up in here.

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 14784905)

So, when you used the word "never", were you unsure of what such a qualifier actually means?

What did you mean by "never"?

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 14784934)

Yeah and you were the one who cried the loudest when we got rid of Hunt. I said Reid wouldnt get it done when we were done 21-0 against the Texans.


Howd that all workout? Enjoy this we aren't promised anything.

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 14784937)

He's Shitt Gorilla.

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 14784958)

We've all been wrong 50 years of heartbreak will do that. Enjoy this shit its special.

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 14784985)

Rabblerouser, I hope Andy shows up at your house and tattoos those words across your forehead lol. Mods, please do this man a favor and delete this thread.

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 14784630)

Translation: if we don't win every game 72-0, Andy Reid is a terrible head football coach.

Originally Posted by rydogg58 (Post 14784656)

It's almost like you don't understand that real football isn't like a Madden game. You have to try things to see how defenses will react to it, how they will adjust to it, how certain players react. You can't just line up and say **** it and chuck it every play. That's not how it works.

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 14784912)

I was wrong, you worthless ****ing asshole.

You ever been wrong before?

I had years of Marty Schottenheimer/Steve Deberg/Steve Bono/Elvis Grbac/No-punt Game/Matt Cassel/Scott Pioli/ALEX SMITH to give me severe PTSD.

You don't ****ing know me. So you and your boyfriend SAUTO can go take a flying **** for all I care. Keep being an asshole all your life. I don't give a **** what you think, Mr Perfect Never Been Wrong.

Originally Posted by Sofa King (Post 14784931)

It's getting pitiful up in here.

Originally Posted by Lilmrp117 (Post 14785234)

That's not what i said. Did you even read the 2nd paragraph of my post where i said it takes some probing to figure out? I just thought andy cut it a little too close. If we went up against a drew brees, aaron Rodgers, carsen Wentz or even nick foles, then we probably lose that game. If we want more bowls, andy is going to have to adjust sooner. You can't always get away with pissing 3.5 quarters away.

Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 14785706)

SNR that was one of the best takedowns I‘ve seen on here since the Alex-only days.

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 14785729)

Not taking anything away from the glorious cure to our misery as Chiefs fans that was given to us less than a week ago. But I miss the piss and vinegar of this forum. It's been too many days since a labia was bruised on this place.

The challenge for us in this post-SB era as Chiefs fans is to strike a balance between our happiness and our ability to entertain each other with trolling and shit stirring.

Can it be done? I accept the challenge! Who's with me?

Originally Posted by warpaint* (Post 14785353)

Pro football in 2020 doesn't get any better than this coach/QB combo.

Originally Posted by warpaint* (Post 14785353)

Pro football in 2020 doesn't get any better than this coach/QB combo.

Originally Posted by SAUTO (Post 14785337)

I think you need to look in a mirror and see what an asshole REALLY is

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14785919)

Pity Reid isn't 6-7 years younger.

He'd retire with Patrick and the Chiefs would have the most Super Bowls in league history.

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 14785702)

Pissing 3.5 quarters away? Our LT was getting his shit ruined at least once every 3 or 4 plays, and when he was holding together, there was probably some other leak along our offensive line that forced Mahomes to move off his spots sooner than he'd like to. We laugh about them now, but the defensive line of the 49ers was this team's toughest challenge to overcome on the field all season. And KC was up 10-3 in the 1st quarter and tied at 10-10 at halftime. That's "pissing away 3.5 quarters"?

Andy's not perfect, but he possesses a greater understanding of his possible shortcomings than any average fan will ever ****ing be able to comprehend. You have zero clue what steps he took throughout the game to adjust and keep the pressure on the defense or what challenges he faced in that game. Moreover, you have zero clue what other offensive coordinators/game planners/coaches would be doing or adjusting to in that kind of situation. We DID see how one of McVay's stray pubes handled that challenge two weeks prior with a pretty damn good QB and an effective run game-- it wasn't pretty. You want to talk about LEGIT pissing away 3.5 quarters-- there's a coach who just flat out got BEAT and never could crack the code the entire game, at least until SF just went to a garbage time defense.

Andy just gave your fat fan ass a ****ing Super Bowl and you're saying there are still things about him that you don't trust? Please point out all the head coaches of the past 5 years who "get" the things that you don't trust about Reid. Can't find any? Then shut the **** up.

Originally Posted by Lilmrp117 (Post 14786290)

Yes. I am saying there are still things i don't trust him with. That super bowl win was too close for comfort. Granted there aren't many coaches i would trust more, maybe belichick, Pederson, Reich.

I understand our Oline was getting abused by the niners dline, but you can't just concede our greatest strength and go to dink and dunk. You have to trust mahomes to navigate the pressure and make plays despite it. It's like a boxer who has a reach disadvantage - you don't stay back and try to out-jab him. You have to get inside. It puts you at risk of taking a big punch but it's your only hope of getting the advantage. I'm glad andy figured it out and we won and maybe you're satisfied with one super bowl, but i have higher hopes than that. We are not going to get the luxury of facing jimmy g every super bowl. The whole team, not just andy, is going to have to step up even more.

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 14786401)

Can't remember if it was this thread or the Andy Reid Appreciation Thread (which ironically turned into nothing more than another bitching zone for his detractors). I asked some n00b to identify the coaches that they believe have "good clock management" and one of the names they identified was Kyle Shanahan.

Hoooooo boy.

Originally Posted by Lilmrp117 (Post 14786290)

Yes. I am saying there are still things i don't trust him with. That super bowl win was too close for comfort. Granted there aren't many coaches i would trust more, maybe belichick, Pederson, Reich.

I understand our Oline was getting abused by the niners dline, but you can't just concede our greatest strength and go to dink and dunk. You have to trust mahomes to navigate the pressure and make plays despite it. It's like a boxer who has a reach disadvantage - you don't stay back and try to out-jab him. You have to get inside. It puts you at risk of taking a big punch but it's your only hope of getting the advantage. I'm glad andy figured it out and we won and maybe you're satisfied with one super bowl, but i have higher hopes than that. We are not going to get the luxury of facing jimmy g every super bowl. The whole team, not just andy, is going to have to step up even more.

Originally Posted by Lilmrp117 (Post 14786290)

Yes. I am saying there are still things i don't trust him with. That super bowl win was too close for comfort. Granted there aren't many coaches i would trust more, maybe belichick, Pederson, Reich.

Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 14785799)

I think two things are key to the difference between this year and the past.

The coach/QB combo and teaming back up with a competent DC.

I've never had qualms with Reid's ability to devise plays or assess talent.

Two big areas of qualms.

First is his player-friendly non-asschewing style, and second his turtling with a lead.

Remember when 2015 started 1-5, then they went on an 11 game win streak? That was when non-asschewing was working at peak efficiency. There could have been benchings and firings and all sorts of calamity in that first month.

But when things go south because personnel aren't responding to a player-friendly style, and the HC doesn't have answers for defense without a DC to provide them, you find grave trouble.

Reid is a reserved guy, and it takes the right personnel to respond to that reserve. It takes personnel who knows that even if coach isn't chewing your ass, he's still disappointed when you slack off, . . . and he expects to be called Sir even if he would never ask.

Mahomes is the Yin to his Yang. He's not only personally accountable, but he sets expectations by on-field example. And every word from Reid is met with 'yes Sir,' then followed on the field by precise execution of Reid's plan.



There's a world of difference between the team ****ing up and Reid observing stoically, going over in his mind how they're going to 'tighten it up back in practice,' and the team ****ing up when a KID is out there creating magic, then coming back to the sidelines and telling you 'I make magic, but I also believe in YOU.'

Some people take subliminal cues. But if it's JUST Reid, subliminal cues regarding underperformance is all you get, and the oblivious fall through the cracks THINKING they're going their best with no one giving them hard medicine.

Add Mahomes, and you get the OVERT cues that you can and need to do better.

Originally Posted by Lilmrp117 (Post 14786290)

Yes. I am saying there are still things i don't trust him with. That super bowl win was too close for comfort. Granted there aren't many coaches i would trust more, maybe belichick, Pederson, Reich.

I understand our Oline was getting abused by the niners dline, but you can't just concede our greatest strength and go to dink and dunk. You have to trust mahomes to navigate the pressure and make plays despite it. It's like a boxer who has a reach disadvantage - you don't stay back and try to out-jab him. You have to get inside. It puts you at risk of taking a big punch but it's your only hope of getting the advantage. I'm glad andy figured it out and we won and maybe you're satisfied with one super bowl, but i have higher hopes than that. We are not going to get the luxury of facing jimmy g every super bowl. The whole team, not just andy, is going to have to step up even more.

Originally Posted by crayzkirk (Post 14787245)

Andy didn't make Patrick a winner, Patrick made Andy a winner. like Mahomes made Reid a winner.

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 14786403)

Who was the guy that preferred random college coach?

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 14787527)

That'd be our dear friend Sweets, it appears

https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/show...&postcount=488

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 14787527)

That'd be our dear friend Sweets, it appears

https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/show...&postcount=488

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 12559750)

Clock mgmt, asinine red zone play calling that even a HS coach wouldn't dare to do, 7 min playoff drives while down 14 leaving your team absolutely not chance, horizontal passing inside the 5 yard line, no 2 min offense....


Those are indicative of a coach AT TIMES that is not trying to win football games on any level. So yes I believe he throws his towel in at times, otherwise you wouldn't continue to Reidtard...

Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 14788091)

I’m happy Reid agreed. The Mahomes/Reid era has been beyond anything I could have ever dreamed of.

Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 14786342)

You're such an idiot. Do you not remember the beginning of the season? We were trying to go deep and Mahomes didn't have enough time. Did you see what happened? He got hurt. A QB can only take so many hits.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14801229)

I give it about 4 games until the same people come after Super Bowl-winning head coach Reid again.

Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 14788907)

Some of these are just too good not to repost. (Reid tries to lose games on purpose.)

Originally Posted by Kman34 (Post 14909257)

Rabblerouser is a good dude... This thread was a product of frustration...

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 14558955)

You're the ****ing moron who thinks Andy Red will somehow not suck and take us to the promised land.

It's not going to happen, Clay. His teams are soft and undisciplined.

But they'll "work on that" and "learn from this."

Top 5 in all-time wins, went to one Super Bowl...and lost because his team got ran on and they had a 7 minute drive in the 4th, down by 2 scores.

Typical.

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 14962414)

Is this thread Hall of Classics quality?

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 14962396)

He did take us to the Promised Land.

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 14962544)

I went to the Texans playoff game with rabble and Clay (and 007 and stevie). First thing Clay did was tell the people sitting behind him that rabble thought Andy Reid was a TERRIBLE head football coach. Good stuff witnessing proper CP comeuppance in the real world. There was no deleting/editing that thread.

Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 14590776)

Andy is not taking this squad, or this franchise, to a SB. He doesn't have the needed gene to get beyond his weaknesses. And while his players enjoy him as a coach, it's because he's easy on them, not because he's earned their respect. And the D probably straight-up loathes him...

Originally Posted by xztop123 (Post 11764108)

This defense requires Revis and Cromartie to work. It puts a tremendous amount of pressure on CB and a QB can pretty much pick which one he wants to attack.

If Sean Smith, Marcus Peters and Nelson were all playing at a high level I can see it working. or if we had 3 marcus peters

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 14962544)

I went to the Texans playoff game with rabble and Clay (and 007 and stevie). First thing Clay did was tell the people sitting behind him that rabble thought Andy Reid was a TERRIBLE head football coach. Good stuff witnessing proper CP comeuppance in the real world. There was no deleting/editing that thread.

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 14962544)

I went to the Texans playoff game with rabble and Clay (and 007 and stevie). First thing Clay did was tell the people sitting behind him that rabble thought Andy Reid was a TERRIBLE head football coach. Good stuff witnessing proper CP comeuppance in the real world. There was no deleting/editing that thread.

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14559330)

I like the way Kyle Shanahan calls games better......

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 14559661)

If Mahomes is Michael Jordan, Andy Reid is Doug Collins.

Chiefs will need a Phil Jackson to get over the top.

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 14560594)

I have a much better idea:

Let's count on Andy to continue being Andy in all of his "Andyness"( high fat diet included ), and hope that our version of post-Reid Philadelphia comes sooner rather than later.

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 14562307)

"Wannabe" what?

I wannabe not watching Reid choke on another playoff dick?

I wannabe enshrining Mahomes in to the Hall of Fame instead of the Chiefs Hall of Shame and Wasted Careers( all welcome our newest members DJ and J. Charles! )???

I wannabe watching a Head Coach that can coach the ENTIRE team and who understands that those shifting numerical digits on the scoreboard are an indicator of the passage of time?

I wannabe not listening to the same dip shit spouting the same ****ing line of garbage about how it's "on him", and he'll "get that fixed" every time he ****s up, but never actually DOES anything to correct the exact same ****ups he makes over and over again?

I wannabe free from listening to delusional idiots continuously defending said clown shoe on the basis of nothing but hope rather than any solid track record of championship performance?

Originally Posted by kjwood75nro (Post 14562637)

I think the frustration is that his problems are so easy to fix, yet they never get fixed.

Every GDT, about 10-20 posters, in real time, are screaming at Andy when to call/not call a timeout, challenge/not challenge, run/pass on this play, which play not to run in which situation, etc., when and how to burn clock, and they're almost always right.

Yes, we all know how talented Reid is at crafting offenses, but he sucks at things that high school coaches and multiple forum posters know how to do. Even a modicum of humility would make him realize this, yet even with Mahomes' career and health on the line, he won't make the adjustments.

I made the analogy a few years ago that he's like an elite receiver with an untied shoelace who insists on keeping it untied, even though it costs him games. The analogy appears just as relevant now as it was before.

Originally Posted by jonzie04 (Post 14586488)

It’s time for Andy to go. He runs too loose of a ship. His teams are too undisciplined to win anything of substance

Originally Posted by bricks (Post 14586738)

The Fatso problem

Chiefs fans its important to know,

Fatsos teams are nothing but a regular season show.

Many fantasize about winning a title,

Fatso, however, will put those dreams on idle.

To Fatso’s credit; he got paid,

And he rewarded us with Mahomo which is our foundational piece laid.

We think of Mahomo as that “magical” thrill,

yet he is overruled by Fatsos poor game management skills.

Evidence suggests that Fatso has no game management flow,

and accounts for many of the games that the Chiefs blow.

Many of us are aware that he can’t adjust,

that is why he is a bust.

His overall prestige may be solid as a rock,

But oh how mind baffling is it that he can’t even manage a clock?!?!?!

In close tight games those miscues will spell shame,

And when that time comes, fatso will be the name to blame.

Disappointing playoff losses make his regular season profile more valid,

Perhaps the only bowl he will hoist will be that of a salad?

Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 14587521)

We're not winning with this defense and we're certainly not winning with this fraud of a coach, period :harumph: .

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 14588385)

Dude...I want Minnesota's OC.

They can really run. Their Oline BLOCKS.

Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 14591075)

Precipice of discovering?

Andy Reid is an open book, not some kind of secret. He's the offensive version of Marty Schottenheimer. Andy is a great stop-gap Head Coach if your offense is broken. He can fix your offensive, stabilize your team and get you to the playoffs.

You sign Andy for 5 yrs and then you move on, Perfect.

Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 14591131)

Andy is a great coach in every aspect except when the game is close and on the line. He does not have the killer instinct to put teams away. We have seen Andy's team choke away games in every conceivable manner now. He is a jinx that stands there like he expects the team to lose-no emotion- just stoic, ready to go down with the ship and fall on his sword during the press conference afterward. Nothing ever changes with this guy.

Originally Posted by Spott (Post 14594634)

Reid is the Alex Smith of coaching.

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 14770818)

I LOVE ANDY REID

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 14559661)

If Mahomes is Michael Jordan, Andy Reid is Doug Collins.

Chiefs will need a Phil Jackson to get over the top.

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 14963014)

I'm still waiting for a Chiefs fan to tell me what game management entails.

Some of them legit believe it's only about calling plays, and they believe calling plays is as easy as it is on Madden.

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14963016)

If a play doesn’t work it was a bad call. Execution is irrelevant!

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 14963018)

And who's responsible for that execution?!

Who's responsible for a player committing a penalty?!

Who's responsible for every QB overthrow, RB fumble, and whiffed tackle?!

Fire Andy!!!!

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 14963032)

Bringing on Spagnuolo was such a good move. As long as he's here and his players are performing at that level I see no reason why we aren't winning multiple championships. Even injuries this year to key players couldn't stop us in the end.