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Stryker 03-05-2024 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 17428407)
For the love of all that is right in the world, please add Kamari Lassiter to this list.

He's one guy I'd drive a stake in the ground for in the first if we don't move way up for a LT or there aren't a very select couple of WRs sitting in striking distance.

As much as I like Franklin this is one guy who would probably make me flip a coin, especially if we're losing Sneed.

Ok, what if the CHIEFS move towards an offense this season and go full on that direction? DEFENSE won us this last time, how about a focus on OFFENSE this season? Just throwing that out there. Rice, Worthy (or Thomas Jr.) Kelce, Hardman, Pacheco etc?

kccrow 03-05-2024 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Stryker (Post 17429356)
Ok, what if the CHIEFS move towards an offense this season and go full on that direction? DEFENSE won us this last time, how about a focus on OFFENSE this season? Just throwing that out there. Rice, Worthy (or Thomas Jr.) Kelce, Hardman, Pacheco etc?

You can still get a good offense and take a defensive playmaker in the 1st round. I'm confident the Chiefs can get solid WRs from the 2nd round or even the 3rd this year.

Offensively, I'm actually more concerned about the long-term viability at LT and how they solve that than I am going all-in on targets. Not going to lie, I like the flashy objects too and it makes for some fun mocks. It just might be high time to bite that bullet and go get a LT, honestly. You're going to start running out of superstars to trade for high picks. Sneed is likely getting you a 2nd round pick. Use it and move up and solve a problem. If you get pick 50 or better, you can get to 16. Seattle doesn't have a 2nd round pick either.

I'd be just as happy if they add Mooney, Shenault, and Van Jefferson in FA and see where the dust settles at WR. I'm really not all that worried about it. Hell, take a flier on Chase Claypool for free if you want. That's just saying the Chiefs don't even have to draft a WR to make some quality moves offensively.

If you find a way to solve LT in FA or via trade or something, I would be totally for a defensive pick in round 1. Go WR in 2. Hell take 2. I don't care.

O.city 03-07-2024 08:45 AM

Jordan Morgan and Graham Barton are a couple guys I'm looking at that could end up being LTs and good picks at 32.

Both have alot of experience and are both only 22.

staylor26 03-07-2024 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17430905)
Jordan Morgan and Graham Barton are a couple guys I'm looking at that could end up being LTs and good picks at 32.

Both have alot of experience and are both only 22.

Both of those guys also don't meet the arm length requirement.

O.city 03-07-2024 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17430967)
Both of those guys also don't meet the arm length requirement.

I don't think Barton is a LT at the next level, but Morgan definitely has the athleticism for it. I think it would be a nice fit here.

staylor26 03-19-2024 12:00 PM

Bump! Updated.

Now that we're halfway through free agency, things are becoming more clear.

Mecca 03-19-2024 12:02 PM

I would not be at all surprised if it's one of the Texas Wr's

staylor26 03-19-2024 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17449912)
I would not be at all surprised if it's one of the Texas Wr's

Feels like it's highly likely it's one of them if they go WR.

DJ's left nut 03-19-2024 04:15 PM

If we're gonna draft someone from your list, can you do me a solid and take Coleman and McConkey off it just to be on the safe side?

staylor26 03-19-2024 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17450284)
If we're gonna draft someone from your list, can you do me a solid and take Coleman and McConkey off it just to be on the safe side?

LMAO

They're at the bottom. Good chance they don't make the final cut. Much bigger fan of Coleman than McConkey though.

staylor26 03-19-2024 05:11 PM

It's just really hard to envision any position other than OT or WR.

Dante84 03-19-2024 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17450401)
It's just really hard to envision any position other than OT or WR.

That's where I'm at.

I can't remember a year when it's been this clear-cut.

staylor26 03-19-2024 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 17450403)
That's where I'm at.

I can't remember a year when it's been this clear-cut.

If they traded Sneed or Jones walked, I'd be looking at those positions too.

But Jones signed a massive deal, and not it looks like Sneed will be back, so offense it is.

Dante84 03-19-2024 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17450405)
If they traded Sneed or Jones walked, I'd be looking at those positions too.

But Jones signed a massive deal, and not it looks like Sneed will be back, so offense it is.

Even if Sneed leaves, it feels like there's some trust in Williams/Watson to hold that down this year.

DJ's left nut 03-20-2024 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17450401)
It's just really hard to envision any position other than OT or WR.

DE still looks rough with Omenihu hurt and FAU not really forcing the issue last year, but it's a buns DE class. Maybe if Newton fell I could see going DT even with Jones but I just don't think Spags sees a need for two interior rushers like that. He likes his NT alongside Jones.

JPH83 03-20-2024 01:02 AM

I was VERY set on WR in the 1st round but the options at LT in FA are pretty thin now. It's basically Donovan Smith or Charles Leno. I've got to think they at least try for one of these rather than have someone like Guyton, Morgan or Suamataia learning the ropes there straight up. Even if they trade up a little for a Mims.

That's why it still feels like a WR to me. If no LT vet is brought in, OK, it's got to happen early in the draft. Assuming they are, I could see it being BPA with that being a WR then a trade up R2 for a LT.

SHOWTIME 03-21-2024 06:47 AM

Not going to happen...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> are preparing for all things in the draft, including the possibility that Georgia star TE Brock Bowers could fall to the 32nd pick.<br><br>Per source: <a href="https://t.co/0eIpGG1Bgc">pic.twitter.com/0eIpGG1Bgc</a></p>&mdash; Chris (@chiefs_outsider) <a href="https://twitter.com/chiefs_outsider/status/1770551810874397001?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 20, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

bigjosh 03-21-2024 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by SHOWTIME (Post 17452151)
Not going to happen...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> are preparing for all things in the draft, including the possibility that Georgia star TE Brock Bowers could fall to the 32nd pick.<br><br>Per source: <a href="https://t.co/0eIpGG1Bgc">pic.twitter.com/0eIpGG1Bgc</a></p>— Chris (@chiefs_outsider) <a href="https://twitter.com/chiefs_outsider/status/1770551810874397001?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 20, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


You never know, maybe he interviews terribly, or smokes weed through a gas mask on video the day of the draft.


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RunKC 03-21-2024 07:24 AM

Have thought for awhile now that Miami would be the team to take Worthy if we didn’t. Look at that smile. Bad poker face Mike LMAO

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Dolphins?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Dolphins</a> HC Mike McDaniel met Texas WR Xavier Worthy today at his Pro Day. The look on his face says it all…<br><br>Worthy broke the NFL Combine 40-yard dash record with a 4.21.<br><br>(�� <a href="https://twitter.com/HankSouth247?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@HankSouth247</a>) <a href="https://t.co/nU0AfN4GaF">pic.twitter.com/nU0AfN4GaF</a></p>&mdash; Ari Meirov (@MySportsUpdate) <a href="https://twitter.com/MySportsUpdate/status/1770546949592146088?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 20, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

staylor26 03-21-2024 08:06 AM

Zero chance the Dolphins go WR in the 1st. Zero.

RunKC 03-21-2024 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17450284)
If we're gonna draft someone from your list, can you do me a solid and take Coleman and McConkey off it just to be on the safe side?

Yeah they aren’t going in rd 1. I’d add Franklin and Suamataia to that list to be taken off as well.

Still think Darius Robinson is a target but will probably be gone by our pick. Just saw a tweet that 20 teams are bringing him in for a private visit or meeting. He’s got a ton of attention.

CupidStunt 03-21-2024 10:56 AM

What would be interesting with Bowers is if he's still there at 20 or 22 or 24. If the staff thinks Kelce has 2 good/great years left, can they get enough juice out of Bowers in that time to justify a little trade-up?

No way he'll get all the way to 32. At the very least someone would trade up from the 2nd to get him at 24, 25, 26.

Jerm 03-21-2024 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SHOWTIME (Post 17452151)
Not going to happen...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> are preparing for all things in the draft, including the possibility that Georgia star TE Brock Bowers could fall to the 32nd pick.<br><br>Per source: <a href="https://t.co/0eIpGG1Bgc">pic.twitter.com/0eIpGG1Bgc</a></p>&mdash; Chris (@chiefs_outsider) <a href="https://twitter.com/chiefs_outsider/status/1770551810874397001?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 20, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Well Mike I'll let you know...they'd write his name down in about 1.3 seconds and sprint the podium.

Renegade 03-21-2024 01:27 PM

Could you imagine defending Kelce, Bowers, Brown, Rice?

Couch-Potato 03-21-2024 05:28 PM

Noted that Mel Kiper is predicting WR Xavier Legette to the DET Lions with the #29 pick and WR AD Mitchell to the Chiefs in his latest mock.

Nightfyre 03-21-2024 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 17452988)
Noted that Mel Kiper is predicting WR Xavier Legette to the DET Lions with the #29 pick and WR AD Mitchell to the Chiefs in his latest mock.

THE (1 for 32 in the 2023 NFL Draft) MEL KIPER?

staylor26 03-21-2024 08:31 PM

Took McConkey off becuase I didn't realize that I accidentally took Legette off last time.

Couch-Potato 03-22-2024 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17453291)
Took McConkey off becuase I didn't realize that I accidentally took Legette off last time.

I think McConkey's in play, he's been mocked to us a lot lately. I keep seeing Thomas Jr and DL Newton falling recently but not sure they make it all the way down to us.

gordonelloyd 03-24-2024 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by CupidStunt (Post 17452420)
What would be interesting with Bowers is if he's still there at 20 or 22 or 24. If the staff thinks Kelce has 2 good/great years left, can they get enough juice out of Bowers in that time to justify a little trade-up?

No way he'll get all the way to 32. At the very least someone would trade up from the 2nd to get him at 24, 25, 26.

If we could move up to trade for Bowers, that would be a tremendous outcome in the draft. But I can’t imagine he will fall into the 20s.

It’s more likely we will be lucky enough to have an opportunity to try to trade up for a plug and play left tackle. And that would be a great outcome too

Chris Meck 03-25-2024 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 17454492)
I think McConkey's in play, he's been mocked to us a lot lately. I keep seeing Thomas Jr and DL Newton falling recently but not sure they make it all the way down to us.

I just see McConkey and Pearsall as the same player. I don't think I'd go for McConkey in the first when you could get Pearsall a round later.

Dunerdr 03-25-2024 06:02 AM

I'm probably over thinking it but Bowers size does worry me a little. He's not tiny but hes not prototypical either.

Stryker 03-25-2024 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 17457066)
I'm probably over thinking it but Bowers size does worry me a little. He's not tiny but hes not prototypical either.

Don't worry, he will NOT be in our range of drafting. Probably Jets @ pick 10.

Stryker 03-25-2024 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 17454492)
I think McConkey's in play, he's been mocked to us a lot lately. I keep seeing Thomas Jr and DL Newton falling recently but not sure they make it all the way down to us.

I think if we trade up 6 spots with the Cardinals there is a possibility BOTH could be there. So, if that happened and both were there, which one would you pick? Me, I would pick Brian Thomas Jr. "Hollywood" leaves for free agency next year to get "paid" elsewhere.

But, we will see. Veach works magic and amazes us all! :thumb:

staylor26 03-25-2024 08:33 AM

Added Kool-Aid post Sneed trade because even though I don't think they'd go CB in the 1st, it would just be a perfect combination of need, value, and fit.

Willie Lanier 03-25-2024 01:18 PM

I really don't want Xavier worthy at all, I know he's got great track speed but I don't see him as much more than a luxury we don't need, give me Troy Franklin or really anyone else in that wr group you listed over worthy all day

Jerm 03-25-2024 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Willie Lanier (Post 17457533)
I really don't want Xavier worthy at all, I know he's got great track speed but I don't see him as much more than a luxury we don't need, give me Troy Franklin or really anyone else in that wr group you listed over worthy all day

If you think Worthy is just "track speed" you have no clue what you're talking about...

He's a weapon...one you can add to a room where he's not expected to be a 1 and use him in a variety of ways and watch him be lethal.

Speed kills in this league, I'll take all of it I can get...can never have enough.

kcbubb 03-25-2024 01:32 PM

Seems like the consensus or desire here is for a WR. I just don’t get it. We’ve won two superbowls with limitations at WR. We saw what happened in the superbowl when our line was hurt against the bucs. We need a LT. That should be goal #1 in this draft. Resign smith on a one year deal and let him compete with a rookie LT. Move Wanya inside. This seems obvious to me?

Jerm 03-25-2024 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by kcbubb (Post 17457553)
Seems like the consensus or desire here is for a WR. I just don’t get it. We’ve won two superbowls with limitations at WR. We saw what happened in the superbowl when our line was hurt against the bucs. We need a LT. That should be goal #1 in this draft. Resign smith on a one year deal and let him compete with a rookie LT. Move Wanya inside. This seems obvious to me?

I could flip your own argument on it's head and say we just won 2 Super Bowls with Donovan Smith and Orlando Brown Jr. at LT...

You can't keep neglecting the weapons on offense, the only reason we got away with it last season is because the defense will elite as hell.

kcbubb 03-25-2024 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 17457556)
I could flip your own argument on it's head and say we just won 2 Super Bowls with Donovan Smith and Orlando Brown Jr. at LT...

You can't keep neglecting the weapons on offense, the only reason we got away with it last season is because the defense will elite as hell.

I can see that but our wr room should be more competitive than it has been in years. We’ve got rice and Hollywood. Who do we have at LT? Wanya? LT is more of a priority than WR considering what we have at WR. Plus we can draft a wr later. Lots of talent at wr this year. LT should be the priority. Keep Mahomes upright. Mahomes needs to be protected. I hope veach makes LT the priority in the draft and selects a wr later.

Pinchshot 03-25-2024 02:22 PM

Since we're losing Snead, it's a CB for me. Based on your list, let's drink the Kool Aid!

BigCatDaddy 03-25-2024 03:50 PM

I really think a WR or OT would be more beneficial but if you get the chance to draft a guy named "Kool-Aid" that has to be the pick.

kccrow 03-25-2024 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17457166)
Added Kool-Aid post Sneed trade because even though I don't think they'd go CB in the 1st, it would just be a perfect combination of need, value, and fit.

Kamari ****ing Lassiter >>> Kool-Aid

poolboy 03-25-2024 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 17457556)
I could flip your own argument on it's head and say we just won 2 Super Bowls with Donovan Smith and Orlando Brown Jr. at LT...

You can't keep neglecting the weapons on offense, the only reason we got away with it last season is because the defense will elite as hell.

Clue?

Stryker 03-25-2024 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by kcbubb (Post 17457560)
I can see that but our wr room should be more competitive than it has been in years. We’ve got rice and Hollywood. Who do we have at LT? Wanya? LT is more of a priority than WR considering what we have at WR. Plus we can draft a wr later. Lots of talent at wr this year. LT should be the priority. Keep Mahomes upright. Mahomes needs to be protected. I hope veach makes LT the priority in the draft and selects a wr later.

Simple, because you are going to have to move up 16 spots to get the low lying fruit of what is left at the LT position "awesome" prospects. What is that going to cost our team? A LOT of draft picks! Get real already. That pick would probably be Troy Fautanu - great prospect but, at what cost?

Hog's Gone Fishin 03-25-2024 08:01 PM

We can find a WR as well as a starting LT in rd 2 so , since both positions are deep this year I say we resign Donovan Smith , get a WR at 32 and go from there.

Xavier Worthy or Xavier Leggett sound good to me

If Joe Alt would just smoke one joint and post the pic on twitter , he could follow in his Dads footsteps as a Chief.

Willie Lanier 03-25-2024 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 17457546)
If you think Worthy is just "track speed" you have no clue what you're talking about...

He's a weapon...one you can add to a room where he's not expected to be a 1 and use him in a variety of ways and watch him be lethal.

Speed kills in this league, I'll take all of it I can get...can never have enough.

I didn't say he was only track speed fast, cool your jets little fella, I just was referring to the other potential options that were listed at wr in the op. You wouldn't rather have his teammate AD Mitchell (who is also fast as hell) or Brian Thomas (also fast) over a guy that weighs 165 lbs? I'm not even sold on wr in the first, I just stated Worthy wouldn't be my choice if we go that route

duncan_idaho 03-26-2024 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by kcbubb (Post 17457553)
Seems like the consensus or desire here is for a WR. I just don’t get it. We’ve won two superbowls with limitations at WR. We saw what happened in the superbowl when our line was hurt against the bucs. We need a LT. That should be goal #1 in this draft. Resign smith on a one year deal and let him compete with a rookie LT. Move Wanya inside. This seems obvious to me?


I think that’s a function of the depth and quality at each position.

There are several WRs who could be available at 32 or in reasonable move-up range for the Chiefs.

To get a Lt you feel really good about, you might have to go into the teens - and that costs a LOT more to do.

I mean, if Fauntanu goes to the Saints at 14 because they like him at LT, are you trading into the teens to ensure you get Morgan or possibly even Suamataia? Because those are the next two names at LT then…

Paying more to get a more risky player is tough to swallow when WR is just as big of a long-term need.

Jerm 03-26-2024 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Willie Lanier (Post 17458060)
I didn't say he was only track speed fast, cool your jets little fella, I just was referring to the other potential options that were listed at wr in the op. You wouldn't rather have his teammate AD Mitchell (who is also fast as hell) or Brian Thomas (also fast) over a guy that weighs 165 lbs? I'm not even sold on wr in the first, I just stated Worthy wouldn't be my choice if we go that route

I like AD Mitchell just fine...I'd love to have Brian Thomas too but I don't see that as feasible unless you move up, which for the record I'd be ok with too.

Jerm 03-26-2024 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by poolboy (Post 17457818)
Clue?

I was typing too fast LOL...meant to say because it was elite as hell.

raybec 4 03-26-2024 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 17457962)
We can find a WR as well as a starting LT in rd 2 so , since both positions are deep this year I say we resign Donovan Smith , get a WR at 32 and go from there.

Xavier Worthy or Xavier Leggett sound good to me

If Joe Alt would just smoke one joint and post the pic on twitter , he could follow in his Dads footsteps as a Chief.

I think banking on finding a quality starter at LT in round 2 is overly optimistic. Guys that are legit plug and play bookends go early.

Jerm 03-26-2024 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 17458348)
I think banking on finding a quality starter at LT in round 2 is overly optimistic. Guys that are legit plug and play bookends go early.

Getting one at 32 isn't really feasible either...

You take one there you better be sure he's a franchise guy.

The talent at WR is too great to pass on just on a chance.

Hog's Gone Fishin 03-26-2024 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 17458348)
I think banking on finding a quality starter at LT in round 2 is overly optimistic. Guys that are legit plug and play bookends go early.

Yeah , well, Roosevelt Brown was a Tackle drafted in the 27th round of the 1953 draft and was inducted into the Hall of fame. :harumph:

https://www.profootballhof.com/hall-...y-draft-round/

Dante84 03-26-2024 04:53 PM

How does the '24 class of LT's compare to the '25 class of LT's?

Curious if this should be the year for the big splash move up, or next year.

My assumption is this year since WR is our other biggest hole and is so deep, combined with the fact that there are a ton of QB's & WR's going in the first round this year, which could slide LT talent down the board a bit into a more manageable trade up range.

kccrow 03-26-2024 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 17458878)
How does the '24 class of LT's compare to the '25 class of LT's?

Curious if this should be the year for the big splash move up, or next year.

My assumption is this year since WR is our other biggest hole and is so deep, combined with the fact that there are a ton of QB's & WR's going in the first round this year, which could slide LT talent down the board a bit into a more manageable trade up range.

Don't hold me to this but I'd guess right now (pending players developing) that 2025 is likely not as deep of a class but there might be as many as 4 1st round LT prospects (lacking the plethora of RTs)...

Probably R1
Kelvin Banks, Texas
Josh Simmons, Ohio State
Anthony Belton, N.C. State
Will Campbell, LSU (Needs to improve in pass pro)
Josh Conerly, Jr., Oregon (Likely needs move to guard but we'll see how he develops in pass pro this year)

Probably R2-3
Jalen Travis, Princeton (this year's Amegadjie)
Jack Nelson, Wisconsin (probably needs to kick to RT)
Turner Corcoran, Nebraska

kcbubb 03-26-2024 08:38 PM

I don’t think you’ll have to go into the teens. If that’s the case, bpa, but I’m guessing one of the top 6 LT prospects could be drafted 20-25. My favorite is Mims but if he goes early, then Fautana. If Fautana is gone, then Guyton. I think LT is worth taking a risk on one of those guys 20-25. I’m guessing one of those 3 will be available in that range.

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17458153)
I think that’s a function of the depth and quality at each position.

There are several WRs who could be available at 32 or in reasonable move-up range for the Chiefs.

To get a Lt you feel really good about, you might have to go into the teens - and that costs a LOT more to do.

I mean, if Fauntanu goes to the Saints at 14 because they like him at LT, are you trading into the teens to ensure you get Morgan or possibly even Suamataia? Because those are the next two names at LT then…

Paying more to get a more risky player is tough to swallow when WR is just as big of a long-term need.


Chris Meck 03-29-2024 06:24 PM

Fellas, I keep watching the mock drafts, and it sure looks like it's a real possibility that either Mitchell or Worthy are there at #32. I think you pull the trigger on either; both would have a significant if slightly different role here and would complement Rice and Kelce. If you do that and snag Sumaitiananana or Paul at #64 I'd be feeling pretty good. Re-sign Smith for a year and roll.

staylor26 03-29-2024 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 17462293)
Fellas, I keep watching the mock drafts, and it sure looks like it's a real possibility that either Mitchell or Worthy are there at #32. I think you pull the trigger on either; both would have a significant if slightly different role here and would complement Rice and Kelce. If you do that and snag Sumaitiananana or Paul at #64 I'd be feeling pretty good. Re-sign Smith for a year and roll.

Yea, I'm all-in on the Texas WRs at this point. Very likely either one would be BPA for me.

JPH83 03-30-2024 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17458153)
I think that’s a function of the depth and quality at each position.

There are several WRs who could be available at 32 or in reasonable move-up range for the Chiefs.

To get a Lt you feel really good about, you might have to go into the teens - and that costs a LOT more to do.

I mean, if Fauntanu goes to the Saints at 14 because they like him at LT, are you trading into the teens to ensure you get Morgan or possibly even Suamataia? Because those are the next two names at LT then…

Paying more to get a more risky player is tough to swallow when WR is just as big of a long-term need.

This is pretty much my take. If we don't get someone in FA then I'm probably going to expect, and accept, us moving up a fair bit and taking a LT. The reason it's not my preferred approach is I think the LT class isn't as good as the WR one, and there's a higher chance we more up for a developmental LT who's ultimately a dud, and then also missing out on impactful WRs even with the depth at that position, especially if we used our 2nd to go up.

O.city 03-30-2024 09:11 AM

Kinda think Saunders is getting overlooked

Hoover 03-30-2024 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17457166)
Added Kool-Aid post Sneed trade because even though I don't think they'd go CB in the 1st, it would just be a perfect combination of need, value, and fit.

I would add Cooper DeJeanthe DB from Iowa.

He's a Swiss army knife. Smart. If you want to replace what you had with Sneed and McDuffie - you draft Cooper. Plus he gives you an elite kick returner.

Chris Meck 03-30-2024 12:13 PM

I think the price to move way up for a day one ready LT is going to be far, far too much.

Take the WR, take a toolsy project OT, and keep doing it until you hit on one. Or two.

Sign Smith for another season and get on with things.

Nightfyre 03-30-2024 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 17462643)
I would add Cooper DeJeanthe DB from Iowa.

He's a Swiss army knife. Smart. If you want to replace what you had with Sneed and McDuffie - you draft Cooper. Plus he gives you an elite kick returner.

I disagree. We don't need first round talent in the secondary, or we wouldn't have traded Sneed for a pittance. The safety and CB room is deep. Plus Dejean will like go in the teens.

We still have McDuffie, Watson, Williams, Conner, Jones, Reid, Bush and a sleeper who was earning first team reps last year in Johnson. Why would you go out and allocate a first round pick++ when you just let one walk and when you have the opportunity to acquire first round level talent at more pressing positions?

If he falls dramatically, or the board falls such that he is clear and away the BPA, sure. But I don't see it happening.

Hoover 03-30-2024 03:15 PM

Not saying I’d trade up for DeJean, but if a legit LT isn’t there (which there is a real possibility) I think a CB is in play.

Icon 03-30-2024 03:27 PM

I see a lot of mocks that have DeJean in the first round but he ran a 4.57 at his pro day this week. That might push him out of the first round.

saphojunkie 03-30-2024 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 17453144)
THE (1 for 32 in the 2023 NFL Draft) MEL KIPER?

No one can predict players to teams, it's about identifying first rounders.

saphojunkie 03-30-2024 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 17462643)
I would add Cooper DeJeanthe DB from Iowa.

He's a Swiss army knife. Smart. If you want to replace what you had with Sneed and McDuffie - you draft Cooper. Plus he gives you an elite kick returner.

I gotta say, I think there is zero chance that happens and it SHOULDN'T happen.

you got to take care of Mahomes. Period. Either weapons or protection.

Bowser 03-30-2024 04:48 PM

Am I an idiot for feeling as if the Chiefs should be giving HARD consideration to taking Ladd McConkey at 32, provided we don't trade up? From all his highlights I've watched, this kid is a route running wizard with sure hands and sneaky speed. Him, Rice, and Hollywood with Kelce thrown in would be lethal. Like, 5K and 50 TD Mahomes lethal.

IMHO, of course?

MahomesMagic 03-30-2024 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 17463048)
Am I an idiot for feeling as if the Chiefs should be giving HARD consideration to taking Ladd McConkey at 32, provided we don't trade up? From all his highlights I've watched, this kid is a route running wizard with sure hands and sneaky speed. Him, Rice, and Hollywood with Kelce thrown in would be lethal. Like, 5K and 50 TD Mahomes lethal.

IMHO, of course?

They should but McConk isn't the type of WR our FO normally likes.

Stryker 03-30-2024 09:00 PM

Get Xavier Worthy in the first. TE Ja'Tavion Sanders in the second. Let the rest of the draft fall as it may.

JPH83 03-30-2024 11:32 PM

Well if what Paniero says is true it's WR R1 and maybe R2 and forget about the rest

Dante84 03-31-2024 01:08 AM

Yeah. Sign Smith at LT and hammer WR this draft.

smithandrew051 03-31-2024 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 17463607)
Yeah. Sign Smith at LT and hammer WR this draft.

Yup. This path just became way more obvious.

Hopefully Smith doesn’t see the obvious leverage here.

Rice’s dumbass killed our BPA draft. We really need a couple WRs now.

Bowser 03-31-2024 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 17463607)
Yeah. Sign Smith at LT and hammer WR this draft.

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17463632)
Yup. This path just became way more obvious.

Hopefully Smith doesn’t see the obvious leverage here.

Rice’s dumbass killed our BPA draft. We really need a couple WRs now.

Yup

****

VAChief 03-31-2024 09:30 AM

D. Smith isn't the answer to LT, but if he will sign something reasonable it would relieve some pressure for this year. We still need to draft a tackle, but it gives you some flexibility to go for a developmental guy at 64 (or a trade up in the second round). If at 32 Worthy or Mitchell are there, but not Morgan/Guyton it's a no brainer. However, if there is a run on WR's we have on our board and an OT falls to us, similarly a no brainer. There will be guys like Walker, maybe even Leggett that you can take in the second. Our depth is pretty solid on D, I'm okay with getting 2 receivers in this draft, a tackle and a pass catching RB.

RunKC 04-01-2024 08:43 AM

Everything the Chiefs have put out there and what we’ve learned about this draft makes me feel like there’s a good chance Veach goes offense heavy. It wouldn’t surprise me if day 1 and 2 are all offensive picks. Only defensive pick I could see is if one of the DL they like happens to be there for them on day 2

They’ve looked at a **** ton of OL, WR’s and TE’s. I think that’s gonna make up the high points of this draft. Tackle is strong rd 1, WR is strong rd 1 and deep in rd 2 and TE is deep in rd 2 and 3.

Great year to need help on offense

staylor26 04-04-2024 09:05 AM

Thought it was interesting that Daniel Jeremiah doesn't have Kingsley in his updated top 50, and Morgan barely made it.

I really think it's going to be WR in the 1st barring a trade up.

BossChief 04-04-2024 11:57 PM

If Kingsley is on the board, I’ll be shocked if he’s not the pick.

If he’s off the board and a blue chipper doesn’t somehow fall in our laps, I bet we move down. Tons of talent in that 70-90 range and the difference between 32 and 45-48 this year isn’t a huge dropoff.

I can see Veach extracting value when he gets stonewalled from trading up again.

In this draft, I’d rather trade back to around the colts puck and add an additional third.

46 and 82 are almost an exact trade for pick 32, based on the draft value chart.

RunKC 04-05-2024 09:52 AM

Bruce Feldman’s coaching intel on first rd prospects:

AD Mitchell

Spoiler!


Xavier Worthy

Spoiler!


Amarius Mims

Spoiler!


Tyler Guyton

Spoiler!


Johnny Newton

Spoiler!


Ladd McConkey (pick 54. On here bc Browns took him and they don’t have a 1st)

Spoiler!


Kool Aid McKinstry

Spoiler!


Rest of the guys from OP weren’t on this mock. They’re 2nd rd picks

The Franchise 04-05-2024 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17472017)
Bruce Feldman’s coaching intel on first rd prospects:

AD Mitchell

Spoiler!


Xavier Worthy

Spoiler!


Amarius Mims

Spoiler!


Tyler Guyton

Spoiler!


Johnny Newton

Spoiler!


Ladd McConkey (pick 54. On here bc Browns took him and they don’t have a 1st)

Spoiler!


Kool Aid McKinstry

Spoiler!


Rest of the guys from OP weren’t on this mock. They’re 2nd rd picks

What does he say about these two?

Kingsley Suamataia, BYU
Jordan Morgan, Arizona

staylor26 04-05-2024 02:30 PM

Ok, list is finalized.

I think lol.

9 guys.


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