I said this before too..he has all the tools to be a revelation that comes out of nowhere.

Noah Gray should change his name to Chad King

Kittle wasn't showcased in college because he wasn't the standout that Iowa has had at the position. The system he played in produced a dozen top flight TE's over the past 20 years and even more guys that stuck around in the league for a few years. He literally came out of nowhere.

I would rather Powell be good than Gray, but it's nice to see we have a guy that is going to put pressure on the defenses even more.

Who said this is an either/or thing?

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Over under on Mitch making a Noahs ark reference if this guy ever gets two tudders?

Mahomes in the shotgun, sees a rusher, he's on the move, fires and... TOUCHDOWN! KAAAN-SAS CITY! IT'S RAINING POINTS FOR 40 DAYS AND 40 NIGHTS AS NOAH GRAY'S TOUCHDOWN GIVES THE CHIEFS A 40-0 LEAD!

HES TAKING TWO TUDDERS ON THIS ARK AND LEAVING BEHIND A WHOLE HEARD OF DONKEYS! I imagine Anthony Sherman on the sideline as the reporter just looking into the camera wondering if Mitch just had a stroke.

If Turk Beach hits on Gray AND Smith, you might as well go ahead and build the statue.

It was Rashaad Fenton where I was like oh okay so he's just gonna bat a thousand from here on out

The thought of hearing him say that just makes my skin crawl. While I love his enthusiasm, I hate his names and phrases.

Even when you hit on a third rounder, it's a huge bonus. Look art what Hill and Kelce mean to this team. Getting guys like that in the 3rd and 5th rounds is like winning the ****ing lottery.

Yeah, no lie. But man, that Saints d-line is ****ing legit.

The Broncos are getting to know all 50 SHADES OF GRAY today as they submit to the will of NOAH GRAY, their new MASTER! But there's no "safe" word that can save them!

*stiffarm* *walks over opponent*

Boy did he get a lesson in Gray's anatomy on that one

Patrick Mahomes stats last year with 2 TE’s on the field:

96 attempts
899 yards
9 TD’s
0 INT’s
1 sack

That was with pure garbage behind Kelce. Get ready for these 2 TE sets. They’re going to rape defenses

Imagine his stats if Keizer and Bell had not dropped passes all over the field. :hmmm:

It won't just be 2 TE sets. Both of them can line up in the backfield and Kelce can line up out wide.

This is going to be gravy.

Tim Grunhard said today on 610-- that Gray has been working out with Mahomes at a local field.

Tim's friend who runs the field stated that- Gray has looked bigger and faster than he expected. The kid is a total stud. Kelce 2.0!!

Gray will be the starter for TE2.

15 catches for 185 yards…

In his first three games, b****!

:thumb:

The fact that he already has Mahome's trust and they have chemistry is huge.

Mahomes is looking dominant like never before as well- according to Grunny.

15 miscarriages and 185 dudes.

Your Mom.

This draft class is going to be the new foundation for the continued dominance of the Chiefs.

UH OH DID LOUIS HEAR SOMETHING FROM HIS FRIEND BRETT?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Noah Gray. TE. Don’t forget the name. He is going to be �� <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefskingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefskingdom</a></p>&mdash; Louis Riddick (@LRiddickESPN) <a href="https://twitter.com/LRiddickESPN/status/1420920274820739081?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 30, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

FAP

UH OH DID MATT HEAR SOMETHING FROM HIS FRIEND AS WELL?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Chiefs couldn’t be higher on Gray’s upside. Think he’s potentially a huge steal <a href="https://t.co/IEjbIP1NHj">https://t.co/IEjbIP1NHj</a></p>&mdash; Matt Verderame (@MattVerderame) <a href="https://twitter.com/MattVerderame/status/1420955907740012544?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 30, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

(Matt’s source tipped him off about Trey starting about 5-6 weeks ago)

UH OH DID NATE HEAR SOMETHING FROM HIS FRIEND ALSO?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I trust Louis, and <a href="https://twitter.com/ByNateTaylor?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ByNateTaylor</a> has been saying this for a minute. <a href="https://t.co/8rwGnF0K6K">https://t.co/8rwGnF0K6K</a></p>&mdash; Seth Keysor (@RealMNchiefsfan) <a href="https://twitter.com/RealMNchiefsfan/status/1420957512900259845?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 30, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Get some sleep

I’m a stomach sleeper and this boner is making it impossible

Ah, but seriously, the last time there was consensus this early about a Chief, this heavily, among those who are tied to legitimate sources (like Riddick) was Patrick and Tyreek.

All we are missing now is Peter Schraeger’s endorsement (later this week?) and it will be sealed.

Can you imagine if we hit big on Gray and Smith on day 3 alone?

A year after hitting on Sneed day 3?

Yeesh.

Clyde last year too. He didn’t quite live up to it, but I think that’s coming, just a year late.

The line alone is going to up Clyde's production 10%

Ooh good point. They did geek out about him too.

Clyde was actually productive in terms of yards, he just didn’t have the TD’s.

I think that’ll change with this OL too.

As I said in the other thread….. the Chiefs want this out there for whatever reason. Do they know something about Kelce? He will start to show his age this year? They want it known that when he retires in 2-3 years, we already have his replacement on the roster?

I feel like there was some Thornhill hype too. And he lived up to it prior to the knee.

It simply means they’re excited about their rookie and new TE2. They did this with guys before. It has nothing to do with Kelce.

You’re right. There was. He got back to form towards the end of the year. Fully expect a career year for him as long as he stays healthy.

At the end of last year Kelce was at the top of his game. No doubt. HOF level. No one is going to argue against that. Especially Chief fans.

But, NFL players get past 30 years old, those HOF skills can decay pretty quick in many players.

Yes, Kelce is getting older and he could start to show his age any year now.

That still doesn’t mean that the Chiefs are letting people know they’re excited about Gray for any reason other than they’re excited about Gay.

I’d say you’re over thinking it. I don’t think these are “strategic narratives”.

I think the draft is a crap shoot and they know that. When they finally see these guys enough to identify who they’re excited about, they start to feed info to media they trust.

They must have seen enough to be confident that Gray will be making an impact and become a good #2 by year end.

If anything, it will help extend Kelce’s career a little. Takes some of the focus off of him. It’s very hard to cover two good TE’s while still having run personnel in.

Let's just make sure he can catch in the damn game.

The Chiefs also seemed pretty high on Nick (makes Jonathan Hayes look like Stephone Paige) Keizer.

Exactly, things are completely when it really matters.

Just having Mahomes has to be ****ing nerve wrecking, you definitely don’t wanna piss him off.

I have a friend that told me Mahomes was generational prior to the 2017 draft.

So I often ask him about his take on college players coming out because he has pretty good eyes.

He said Gray was noticeable at Duke when he was watching film on Daniel Jones.

Who knows but he looks great on tape. A real talent with jump ability to get the ball. He may be the answer we have needed for a young TE. Just meaning Travis isn't young and we have whiffed on a back up a lot.

Exactly! Prior to Gray the gap between Kelce and TE#2 was probably the largest of any position on the field outside of QB. To have a legit #2 is nice.

And it sounds like they like Gray enough that they might be using him in special red zone/run packages.

I like that Reid is looking at ways to diversify. He is a genius but our offense had gotten a bit stale last year.

Maybe.

But also maybe.

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We’re talking backup TE, dude. And who’s going to beat out Gray?

That’s not great white hyping the player at all

Two f-ups and a very nice TD grab. Silky smooth route on the TD grab.

At least he's capable of making a big play, which is more than can be said for the other backup TEs we've had since Harris.

The Jody Fortson loss still stings because I really liked him, but if Gray is capable of being that tertiary short yardage/goal line option that teams forgot to account for, we're still in pretty good shape.

That big Darrell Williams run was bc of a block by Noah Gray. It was beautiful. He also had another nice block on a screen.

Can’t wait to see Kelce, 2nd year Gray and 2nd year Fortson next season

Hopefully his TD boosts his confidence. I heard everything about this guy being a training camp hero, and haven't seen shit but dropped passes and missed opportunities.... until that TD.

I think similarly to Nick Bolton, he will start getting confident and more involved. I think theyll make it a point to get him involved and let Kelce get some pine time.

It's also notoriously difficult to get TEs going during their rookie seasons. Not just in Andy's offense either, it's across the board. Most of the all-time great TEs did jack squat in their rookie seasons in terms of receptions and yards. Some of them were even probably terrible. Remember Tony G's rookie year?

I'll bet Gray will be regularly contributing in his 2nd year. Might even see a dual threat kind of situation between him and Kelce.

Pro bowler 2023

Noah Gray has as many TD's as Kyle Pitts in Atlanta does.

Considering he doesn't even start and backs up Kelce, that is more impressive. Pitts is the only target in ATL outside of Patterson. Gray is like option 4 or 5 anytime he is on the field.

Pitts has almost 1000 yards, He's a stud.

Gray is putting up a tudder every 30 yards, Pitts is putting one up every 950./End thread.

I don't know about shitting on Pitts.

For whatever reason, it's hard to integrate TEs as rookies into NFL offenses. Either coaches don't trust them with blocking responsibilities so they don't see the field, or their receiving skills are still sucky, or some other such reason.

Pitts already has the 2nd most receiving yards for a rookie TE in NFL history. A rookie TE hasn't cracked 1000 yards since Ditka did it in 1961, but Pitts can do that with just 50 more.

I don't really care if the Falcons are force feeding him the ball or not. That's a pretty good indicator of NFL success provided you don't see a total implosion like Jeremy Shockey had following his rookie season.

I'm not. He's a stud. He will get those TDs next season I bet,

Dude is ballin. Nate Taylor reporting he is “different”. Roasting our DB’s

Watch that break out year fellas

Do we take 4 TEs?

If he is playing as well as is being reported they might have to. Bell has value none of the other three do. I would hate to see Fortsen be the odd man out.

Surprising to precisely no one. He was balling out the last half of the season.

Of course, I was also told he'd be cut this season.

Can we come up with some kind of universal punishment for idiots on this forum who after the 3rd day of training camp say shit like, "Noah Gray has been awfully quiet. Not good. Haven't heard a single thing about him. Probably gonna get cut I'll bet."

There. There's your noise. Just because a guy's name doesn't get called doesn't mean he's not doing well or not meeting expectations of the coaches.

I'm not saying he's going All Pro now, but he IS getting your precious training camp buzz you were desperately searching for to affirm that he'll be sticking around the team.

Gray is going to have every opportunity afforded to him to make this team as a guy Veach moved up to the top of the 5th to get. If he's playing good ball, no way they'll ditch him.

Fortson was showing last year he could be a red zone threat at a minimum but KC lacked the size they now possess at WR. He could have value but he's going to have to show more than that, and he just might.

Bell has a very limited, specific skill set, that isn't so incredibly valuable that I could see Reid letting the two younger guys go for if they are both playing well. That would be my odd man-out candidate.

Now, if Fortson or Gray suck ass in pre-season game action, then Bell could keep one of them from making the team. From what we're hearing very early, Bell is going to have his work cut out for him. It's early though.

Michael Burton makes Bell expendable. Bell's "value" is the occasional chip block. Burton can do that.

Bell will be gone. We going with the 3 headed monster in Kelce, Fortson and Gray

Gray was talked up last TC, didn't translate to the season. Fingers crossed it was only his Tom Brady voice turning people skittish

If we do, do we go with only 5 WRs?

TEs
- Kelce
- Fortson
- Bell
- Gray

WRs
- JuJu
- MVS
- Mecole
- Skyy
- Watson

RBs
- CEH
- RoJo
- McKinnon
- Pacheco
- Burton (FB)

???

Or is Pacheco going to take someone's spot?

Heh. Posted this in the other thread, but we'll probably only keep 9 OL, and that should cover the extra TE spot.

We kept 4 TEs last year until Fortson went down.

Fountain is making the 53

Him or Powell, who has apparently been balling out