Get Fitzpatrick and then get Ramsey.

Our defense is also better. Might be the best since 03.

Offensively Gordon and Brown need to stay on the field.

LMAO Marty might've gotten this one right after all. So it really IS a 3rd + Ragland?

Don’t see it. They’ll both require a 1 next year at least

I don't think Fitzpatrick is putting this team over the top today. If that's the move they make, I'd certainly understand why, but I think you want someone that can go balls out outside to get you to where you expect to go right now.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Making up trade scenarios for fun...(picks would be significant in some cases)...<br><br>Ramsey to KC for Sorensen/Ward/pick(s)<br><br>Ramsey or Minkah to Jets for Leonard Williams?<br><br>Minkah to LAC for Gordon+?<br><br>Minkah to PHI for Vaitai/Sidney Jones+<br><br>Either to ARZ TB or SF for...pick(s)?</p>&mdash; Mike Clay (@MikeClayNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/MikeClayNFL/status/1173740984552869890?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 16, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I don’t believe that at all. The kid just graded out as Miami’s top PFF player yesterday, FWIW. He’s no bust.

It’s a 1 IMO considering where we will pick.

I like your confidence.

I can see that logic IF they don’t believe in Minkah or Fuller as an outside corner.

But I assume they do or they wouldn’t be talking about a trade with MIA.

Sure, I think that compensation is ridiculous, but Marty called KC and Seattle as the final 2 bidders quite a while ago. He may very well have something on this one.

As much as I hate the idea of trading a 1st for a one year deal. I believe we could recoup with a tag and trade. Of course that would certainly be the end of Jones in the red and yellow.

They talked on Fuller like they didn't seem confident about him playing outside at all, which I thought was a little odd. Maybe they have confidence in Fitz doing it? Who knows

New CBA looming....who knows what that cap may look like...

I can't believe how much some of you cling to the idea of not wanting to give up what is essentially a high 2nd rounder for certain players....QUIT OVERVALUING DRAFT PICKS.

That SF 2nd might not be as hot of a ticket as we thought either.

But wait with a late first we could get...




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if we're going to acquire a corner he wouldn't be my first choice

Ward, Sorensen and a 2nd this year plus a 3rd next year.

Done

Which miami herald guy?

Marty. Marty "Miami" Herald.

Which one of you is Sweeney


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I wouldn&#39;t normally say the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> should go get player X, but after the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Patriots?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Patriots</a> signed WR Antonio Brown, it certainly has the feel of an all-out arms race. Let’s see what Kansas City does here.</p>&mdash; Pete Sweeney (@pgsween) <a href="https://twitter.com/pgsween/status/1173737509236420608?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 16, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;The Dolphins have been talking with three teams who are seriously interested in the former No. 11 overall selection, according to sources.&quot; <br><br>Multiple sources have indicated the Cowboys, Seahawks and Chiefs are those three teams...and Cowboys droppedout<a href="https://t.co/QTV5qonMf2">https://t.co/QTV5qonMf2</a></p>&mdash; Bill Alvstad �� (@NWSeahawk) <a href="https://twitter.com/NWSeahawk/status/1173706312007352320?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 16, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Patriots going out to take a risk on an all-world talent should be all the justification you should need to want this deal to happen

Jones. The best way to beat the Pats is to pressure Brady and Jones has the shortest route to Brady.

From La Canfora:

“Minkah Fitzpatrick trade likely to be wrapped up by tomorrow. The Dolphins expected to get 1st round value for him. Hearing WSH, DAL, KC, PIT, PHI and SEA all in the mix. Offers are being made”

Yea that worked so well last year... shall we replay the 3 straight 3rd and 10s

People just don’t pay attention, man.

We could trade for MF, Ramsey and STILL be able to structure deals for Mahomes and Jones to stay in KC long term.

After Big Ben Steelers won’t trade. Cowboys are out too after Jones comments. Basically down to WAS, KC, SEA and PHI

I want no part of Ramsey. Would rather have Fitzpatrick.

He is much more talented but he isn't as nuts as Peters. Has he walked off the field on his team?

Let's do it then. Top 2 slot CBs in the league + Ramsey & Honey Badger.

He's probably like the 10th best CB in the NFL and thinks he's Deion Sanders and the main part of his game is his mouth and unsportsmanlike conduct. Ya, such clown world to not want a guy like that!

Ramsey is a much better player than Fitzpatrick

Clueless

No, but he's freelanced on plays which is a horrific idea for a CB.

Yeah... I lost you at 10th best CB in the NFL.

**** it, roll the dice.

His personality is not a fit on this team imo. And we won't be able to afford him next season.

Ok Dr.Phil

It's not like being the 10th best CB is bad, I acknowledge he can play with that actually.

Is there any reason we can't trade a first for Ramsey, play him for one year to try to win a SB, then trade him for a first to start 2020?

Part of me says be patient, see what we look like when Claiborne comes back.

And then part of me says **** the Patriots, let's go

This team's competition is New England...period and end of.

It's time to start making moves to try and beat them and counter them, like they have with us. This is a move you make to beat New England.

Do it..

Trading him to us would be a great way for Jacksonville to stick it to the rest of their division, since we've already played them and will play the rest of them later in the season.

But he's miles in front of 10th best and I would be 100% confident to say that most of the starting WR's would say he is the toughest CB to go against. Arguably the best WR in the game right now just said he is the toughest CB to go up against.

I could totally see NE trading for this ****er if JAX will do it.

As long as he performed well, can certainly be done.

Don't they have ~0 cap space after the AB signing?

Rules don't apply to Bawston

NE always has cap space

They’d find a way.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">*NFL RUMORS* Chiefs made initial contact with Jaguars in regards to Jalen Ramsey, convo’s are still in “kicking tires” stages according to Source ✍️<br><br>Fluid situation so expect update with additional teams who are also exploring possible deal with <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Jags?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Jags</a> �� <a href="https://t.co/ZcsUkpef2z">pic.twitter.com/ZcsUkpef2z</a></p>&mdash; IB �� (@incarceratedbob) <a href="https://twitter.com/incarceratedbob/status/1173747249400205313?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 16, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

GET HIM BEFORE TB & BB DOES!

I can just see BB talking about it now.

If they could snag Ramsey, they can legitimately hold down our offense to maybe 20 points.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> &amp; Jalen Ramsey are a match made in �� heaven. Issue is acquiring and paying Jalen Ramsey will require huge cap management maneuvering to pay Chris Jones &amp; Ramsey with Patrick Mahomes due more money sooner than later.</p>&mdash; Chad Forbes (@NFLDraftBites) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFLDraftBites/status/1173746009085816832?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 16, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Yall dont deserve his skills. He's right as rain when he feels he's on a team that wants to win. His bad luck got him drafted by the Jags.

You don't seem nice.

How do we realistically pay
Patrick Mahomes
Chris Jones
Sammy Watkins
Jalen Ramsey


If Patrick somehow steps up with a friendly structure and allows us to go bombs over Baghdad with the cap we will build this man multiple statues around the city.

Why not?

See, that’s the dilemma no one can escape

Veach must sweating bullets and spitting up blood right now

We would totes give you Reggie Ragland and Dan Sorenson to make up for not deserving him.

None of that matters if Ford lines up onsides.

Hey it's most of your own fellow fans that seem to hate his guts and want no part of him. I want him to be on a good team, including the Chiefs.

Because it seems most of you don't want to touch him with a 10 ft pole.

Idc tbh. I just want him to succeed on another team so our FO can be obliterated.

Pats gave up nothing to get an all world talent.

That's reason enough to trade for him. Ramsey is the OBJ of defense. If you can control the head case, he's an exceptional player. He just shut down the best WR in the league. He would be THE difference maker vs the Pats.

Do it!

I feel that you’re missing the big picture. As been said a gazillion times before play a year trade for a 1st.

Pat needs to marry an even richer supermodel.

I’m taking a different position than I would have in years past; unless there serious is reason to believe that Ramsey would be a cancer and disrupt the team chemistry, Veach absolutely should at a bare minimum have a conversation with Jax.

Make the deal and send the message to the Pats, and the rest of the league that this isn’t the same organization of the past 50 years - we are ALL in. Whatever moves NE makes will be countered.

And we would be virtually giving up a 30ish pick so what would we have to lose?

NE has $11M in cap room.

Veach better really consider this one.

Veach has to sign one of these guys. If he doesn't, another contender will and it will be potentially like last year where we had a chance but didn't and it could hurt us in the end.

That being said Ramsey have tyreek a little something extra after that tackle he got injured on and can you imagine the headlines when the chiefs sign him but traded Peter's?

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We should give Pat 10M per year for the next 50 years and call it good. 100% guaranteed.

To me our offense is already better than the Pats. Getting Ramsey makes us better defense too. They don't stand a chance against us this season anyways.

Ramsey reached out to Hill last week and supposedly all is good there. Wether Hill actually meant it or was just being polite since JR made the effort is anybody's guess. But I believe that the effort was made says something.

This is blatant homersim here. KC's defense is not near the D the NE has right now.

The NE secondary appears better across the board. Hard to argue any of Ward, Breeland, Fuller or Thornhill being better than any of their starters at this point. HB over coke dealer might be the only spot in the secondary KC is better. Their LBs are definitely better. I would take KC's D line over NE but we haven't seen all that much in the way of sacks/pressures thus far.

My thoughts exactly.

I'd take our d over NE if we had Ramsey.

Bill paid both of their starting corners. Think he feels good there

Those people are extremely stupid.