Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 14243713)

Is Thor hanging around

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14245205)

Originally Posted by Gravedigger (Post 14245318)

If the lightsaber stays at the same home, did it really ever get passed on?

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 14244999)

1) I loved the Professor Hulk until the final battle. He basically wasn't in it. The whole reason to look forward to a professor Hulk is to see what Banner would do differently in battle while in control. Banner could have trained with Cap those 5 years and whomped some ass. Instead they nerfed their two most powerful characters.

2) I love what they did with Cap and Tony. Tony's character comes full circle and him doing what he has to do to be ready to sacrifice himself (have a child, make amends with his father, have the opportunity) actually does validate Dr. Strange's actions. I was worried about this but Doc Strange was right.

The only part I didn't like was I see no way Cap could live through all the f'ed up things in world history from 1950-2010 and just hide or stay on the sidelines. That's just not Cap. Would cap stand down and just let Hydra run Shield/US intelligence for 50 years?

3) I understand divergent timelines and how their time travel works but they still ****ed it all up. By "Endgame Rules" they still created multiple new timelines with Loki, Cap, and removing Gamora/Nebula being killed or ripped from time.

If the Ruso's were around to explain it all I'd have faith, but they're done.

4) I was on board with a Black Widow movie but never really cared one way or the other until I saw her basically take over for Fury. It actually makes sense (she's also a super spy) and by midway through Endgame I was pumped to see a Black Widow/Ronin movie.

So much for that.

Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 14242527)

Hulk and Thor ruined Endgame.

What a huge disappointment.

This movie could have been 100x better than it was.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14245374)

This is some of my issues. I loved it, but the whole time travel thing is always going to **** up timelines I think.

Cap stayed in the old days, but the other Cap was still in the ice and went thru everything this cap did or was that now changed?

All the other movies still stand technically, but time travel is always so hard to do. I wish they could have gone another way.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14245374)

This is some of my issues. I loved it, but the whole time travel thing is always going to **** up timelines I think.

Cap stayed in the old days, but the other Cap was still in the ice and went thru everything this cap did or was that now changed?

All the other movies still stand technically, but time travel is always so hard to do. I wish they could have gone another way.

Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 14245613)

The Russos strongly hinted that if Chris Evans ever wants to return, there may be some alt-timeline Cap stories to tell.

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14245154)

If any of the old guard returns, he's the most likely. He's basically said he'll play the character for as long as they'll let him and honestly outside of the MCU he's been in basically terrible movies.

Originally Posted by sully1983 (Post 14245346)

Ha good point. Also, Disney owns the Avatar franchise as well . JFC they are too powerful . :eek:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14245205)

Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 14245613)

The Russos strongly hinted that if Chris Evans ever wants to return, there may be some alt-timeline Cap stories to tell.

Originally Posted by JD10367 (Post 14245738)

Going by how Endgame portrays time travel, going to the past in your reality doesn't alter your reality but instead sends the reality you went to on a different timeline. So, for example, if you went back and killed Hitler, you would create an alternate Hitler-free reality but returning to your time you'd still find Hitler in the history books.

Now, Cap going back to the 40s/50s (judging by the car in the last scene) creates an interesting alternate reality because a) that act creates a different reality for that version of Earth and b) it doesn't even disturb the Cap from that reality because he's still in the ice. (Although he'll be pissed to wake up and find out he's been frozen for most of a century and an alt-Cap came back and spent 50 years ****ing his sweetheart.) So that Cap could feel free to **** with that reality's Hydra as much or as little as he pleased, because it only changes that reality and not his. I doubt Cap could stand by and not mess with Hydra but, judging by his ability to return to his reality as an old man, apparently he made it through safe and sound.

Originally Posted by JD10367 (Post 14245743)

"Cabin In The Woods" begs to differ.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14245785)

But what timeline would that be?

Would it be the one they defeated Thanos in, or the one he went and stayed in? Although I guess technically they would be the same?

**** i'm dumb.

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 14246494)

Watched it yesterday. Not a bad movie but I had a headache trying to keep myself awake. Too long and boring.

Originally Posted by Kman34 (Post 14246577)

Maybe movie theaters aren’t for you...

Originally Posted by JD10367 (Post 14245743)

"Cabin In The Woods" begs to differ.

Originally Posted by JD10367 (Post 14245738)

Going by how Endgame portrays time travel, going to the past in your reality doesn't alter your reality but instead sends the reality you went to on a different timeline. So, for example, if you went back and killed Hitler, you would create an alternate Hitler-free reality but returning to your time you'd still find Hitler in the history books.

Now, Cap going back to the 40s/50s (judging by the car in the last scene) creates an interesting alternate reality because a) that act creates a different reality for that version of Earth and b) it doesn't even disturb the Cap from that reality because he's still in the ice. (Although he'll be pissed to wake up and find out he's been frozen for most of a century and an alt-Cap came back and spent 50 years ****ing his sweetheart.) So that Cap could feel free to **** with that reality's Hydra as much or as little as he pleased, because it only changes that reality and not his. I doubt Cap could stand by and not mess with Hydra but, judging by his ability to return to his reality as an old man, apparently he made it through safe and sound.

Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 14247135)

This is exactly what the Russo’s implied. That he stayed in that reality and it was a new one from the universe we’ve seen. Also implied that it could be “revisited”.

Makes me think Evans might have indicated he’d be “open” to returning after a certain amount of time. This ending gives Marvel the flexibility to say goodbye to his character or return to it since he’d be in a different universe.

A noir Cap or a 1970’s espionage movie vs Hydra with Peggy and Howard does sound wonderful.

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14247413)

I’ve got the whole movie on a Chinese website (movie is in English btw) if anyone wants it.

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14247413)

I’ve got the whole movie on a Chinese website (movie is in English btw) if anyone wants it.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14247420)

So I've been wrapping my head around the timeline stuff and I think I've got it figured.

Going back to get the stones didn't change the current timeline, but created a new timeline in that old setting from that point on. Ok, i'm dense but I think that's right?

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 14247550)

Correct.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14247555)

Ok, makes sense.




So, when Cap is sitting on the bench as an old man, did he actually come back from the previous timeline to that point?

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 14247578)

Yep. He went back, spent life with Carter in a different timeline, then eventually "warped" back to the "prime" timeline. It sounds like they're leaving the door open to tell some stories from Cap's time in the "past" at some point.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14247598)

I could have watched another 30 minutes of just Cap returning all the stones. Especially the soul stone. That one would have been interesting.

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 14247634)

I had wondered about that, but I think you can explain how he'd do it pretty easily. Basically, the space stone can let him teleport just about anywhere, so he pretty much just needs to use that one to return the ones that are off earth and then return the space stone itself toward the end. Mission accomplished.

I'd definitely be curious to see how it went down though. If they ever do get him to come back, that could almost be a movie in and of itself.

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 14247634)

I had wondered about that, but I think you can explain how he'd do it pretty easily. Basically, the space stone can let him teleport just about anywhere, so he pretty much just needs to use that one to return the ones that are off earth and then return the space stone itself toward the end. Mission accomplished.

I'd definitely be curious to see how it went down though. If they ever do get him to come back, that could almost be a movie in and of itself.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14247598)

I could have watched another 30 minutes of just Cap returning all the stones. Especially the soul stone. That one would have been interesting.

Originally Posted by Kman34 (Post 14246577)

Maybe movie theaters aren’t for you...

Originally Posted by JD10367 (Post 14245738)

Going by how Endgame portrays time travel, going to the past in your reality doesn't alter your reality but instead sends the reality you went to on a different timeline. So, for example, if you went back and killed Hitler, you would create an alternate Hitler-free reality but returning to your time you'd still find Hitler in the history books.

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 14249876)

Not as interesting as him having to "stuff" the ether back into Natalie Portman...:eek:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 14249962)

Meh it was 2 hrs of uneventful shit and an hr of exciting shit that we've seen before (avengers fighting a large generic army).

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 14251943)

New Spiderman trailer coming Monday. Heard it will have a spoiler warning prior to it since it'll have Endgame spoilers in it

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 14251981)

Probably about Stark dying and why he just wants to be an ordinary kid at the beginning of the movie.

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14253519)

I selfishly wanted this to happen again so badly. Would have been amazing.

https://media.giphy.com/media/TrxnQIWWCGUAo/giphy.gif

One of my favorite moments in MCU history

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14253770)

Would have been a hell of a lot cooler than OMG WE'RE WOMEN LOOK AT US EVERYBODY DUCK LIPS

Originally Posted by sully1983 (Post 14254020)

What its doing at the box office is INSANE! Has now outgrossed Titanic (and it only took 2 weeks):eek: .

Originally Posted by Sorry (Post 14251564)

Sorry the only thing that excite you is explosion s mister 5 sec man

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14253770)

Would have been a hell of a lot cooler than OMG WE'RE WOMEN LOOK AT US EVERYBODY DUCK LIPS

Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider (Post 14254701)

The more I think about Professor Hulk, the more the way they ended up portraying him sucks. I guess it was all about Tony Stark though in the end, and they didn't want Hulk stealing the show, again.

Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider (Post 14254701)

The more I think about Professor Hulk, the more the way they ended up portraying him sucks. I guess it was all about Tony Stark though in the end, and they didn't want Hulk stealing the show, again.

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 14254706)

Yeah, that's the most glaring issue in an otherwise really solid show for me. I just wish that he could kind of swing between Hulk and Banner at will rather than being just Banner with a big green body.

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14253770)

Would have been a hell of a lot cooler than OMG WE'RE WOMEN LOOK AT US EVERYBODY DUCK LIPS

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 14254914)

I actually don't mind it, as I think it's a sensible conclusion to the Ruffalo arc, but they didn't really transition it very well from Infinity Wars.

It went straight from "two consciousnesses sharing the same body" to "Banner now just runs Hulk's body" with not a ton of explanation.

I like the development, personally, but I'm a Marvel homer. I just wish they had explained it a bit more thoroughly.

Even though this was a 3.5 hour movie.

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14253003)

It was good, but IMO Infinity War was a much better movie.

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 14254922)

But doesn't the lack of "Hulk" feel...sad...to you? He was a character in the series separate from Banner and, arguably, was even more important than Banner himself. I just feel like we basically saw Hulk die offscreen to be replaced by Banner taking his powers, and that's a huge bummer.

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 14254922)

But doesn't the lack of "Hulk" feel...sad...to you? He was a character in the series separate from Banner and, arguably, was even more important than Banner himself. I just feel like we basically saw Hulk die offscreen to be replaced by Banner taking his powers, and that's a huge bummer.

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 14254922)

To put it another way, it seems like "Hulk SMASH" isn't a thing anymore, and that sucks.

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 14251514)

This movie made me go back and watch THOR the Dark World again. Thats how good it was.

Too bad they never brought back Darcy again....

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 14254922)

But doesn't the lack of "Hulk" feel...sad...to you? He was a character in the series separate from Banner and, arguably, was even more important than Banner himself. I just feel like we basically saw Hulk die offscreen to be replaced by Banner taking his powers, and that's a huge bummer.

To put it another way, it seems like "Hulk SMASH" isn't a thing anymore, and that sucks.

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 14254914)

I actually don't mind it, as I think it's a sensible conclusion to the Ruffalo arc, but they didn't really transition it very well from Infinity Wars.

It went straight from "two consciousnesses sharing the same body" to "Banner now just runs Hulk's body" with not a ton of explanation.

I like the development, personally, but I'm a Marvel homer. I just wish they had explained it a bit more thoroughly.

Even though this was a 3.5 hour movie.

Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 14255020)

Yes, and I HATED it, but I think his character arc isn't done. It's clear that as of Endgame, Hulk CAN'T FIGHT. I mean, he goes to New York and is like, pushing a car around, and trying to figure out how to do the HULK SMASH thing, but Banner isn't about that. He's too cool-headed, rational, logical, etc. to be an effective fighter, despite the muscles.

I can't imagine that that lasts. He needs to find a happy medium. Let the 4 year old temper tantrum guy have his "hand on the wheel" at least a little bit when the time is right (to borrow his own description from Ragnarok).

Because this isn't Hulk, it's "Banner with big muscles who sucks in a fight". Can't imagine his story is complete with that as the end point.

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 14254928)

I agree -- Infinity War had the cleaner narrative.

But I don't think I've ever seen a movie have bigger balls than this one.

The shit they tried in this movie is just unthinkable. What an explosion of creativity, and a very good way to end Phase 3.

Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider (Post 14255171)

I also don't remember Professor Hulk being useless in a fight from the Comics. Another aspect that I didn't care for.

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14255209)

I don’t really agree. They did time travel, which has been done by so many other movies.

Before Infinity War I didn’t think it would be possible to have that many characters together in 1 movie and have it written that well with a good flow.

I think Infinity War was the best combination of funniest, most entertaining and best written movie in the MCU.

Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider (Post 14255171)

I also don't remember Professor Hulk being useless in a fight from the Comics. Another aspect that I didn't care for.

Originally Posted by Kman34 (Post 14255265)

The part I was looking forward to was Hulk getting over his fear of Thanos and kicking his ass.. instead we got a one armed Hulk fighting behind the scenes..

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 14255262)

But I think the Endgame time travel was more creative than just about any other time travel movie I've seen, and they had Oscar winning actors bobbing in and out with very little contribution. Natalie Portman was brought in to stroll across the floor. Swinton steals the scenes both times she's on screen. Samuel L. Jackson just glares. Loki's on screen three times and I'm not even sure he says anything