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RunKC 09-20-2015 11:51 PM

I think a big part of Andy's problem late in his time in Philly was that he was doing too much.
IIRC he was doing GM duties as well as being the HC.

Back on point, you guys need to be going after another coach who really shit the bed on Thursday.
Not Reid.
Not Sutton.

Toub. ST's was a disaster. Nobody back blocking for DAT against a horrid Broncos ST's, a near blocked punt and what seemed like a penalty on every goddamn ST's play.

rabblerouser 09-21-2015 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 11745634)
I think a big part of Andy's problem late in his time in Philly was that he was doing too much.
IIRC he was doing GM duties as well as being the HC.

Back on point, you guys need to be going after another coach who really shit the bed on Thursday.
Not Reid.
Not Sutton.

Toub. ST's was a disaster. Nobody back blocking for DAT against a horrid Broncos ST's, a near blocked punt and what seemed like a penalty on every goddamn ST's play.

The whole coaching staff should be held accountable...but Sutton didn't shit the bed like Reid did.

Reerun_KC 09-21-2015 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Williams (Post 11742799)
Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeze.....

Now go back and re read that article with your CP issued rose colored glasses on...

You will be able to pick that apart and find blame elsewhere to devert blame away from Reid...

Sweet Daddy Hate 09-21-2015 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 11745992)
Now go back and re read that article with your CP issued rose colored glasses on...

You will be able to pick that apart and find blame elsewhere to devert blame away from Reid...

One round at the vomit bar was quite enough.

Mr. Laz 09-21-2015 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 11745979)
The whole coaching staff should be held accountable...but Sutton didn't shit the bed like Reid did.

Sutton has more talent to work with than the offense does


Sutton still can't/won't adjust, even though he has talent all over the field.

Chiefnj2 09-21-2015 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 11746455)
Sutton has more talent to work with than the offense does


Sutton still can't/won't adjust, even though he has talent all over the field.

In year 3 you shouldn't have the "no talent" excuse. It's more like a case of Reid mis-identifying "talent".

rabblerouser 09-21-2015 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 11746462)
In year 3 you shouldn't have the "no talent" excuse. It's more like a case of Reid mis-identifying "talent".

Exactly - the offense IS talented. Just not in the way Reid wants.

I keep comparing them to the 1999 Ravens, and Smith to Maclin/Kelce is a hell of a lot more explosive than Dilfer to Sharpe/Stokely...and Charles/Davis/West is possibly a better RB combo than Lewis/Priest at that time.

Anyway, point is, a smart coach knows what he has...and what he doesn't have.

rabblerouser 09-29-2015 08:38 AM

Hey Reid...

You know the guy who scored 3 TDs on 11 carries??

If you want to win, GIVE HIM THE BALL.

Fat ****ing dipshit.

Jerm 09-29-2015 08:53 AM

Last night told you everything you need to know about Reid...zero adjustments, STILL with the ridiculously bad clock management and game awareness, and a constant deer in the headlights look on his face.

rabblerouser 09-29-2015 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 11764034)
Last night told you everything you need to know about Reid...zero adjustments, STILL with the ridiculously bad clock management and game awareness, and a constant deer in the headlights look on his face.

With 11 days to prepare his team!!

Reerun_KC 09-29-2015 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 11764034)
Last night told you everything you need to know about Reid...zero adjustments, STILL with the ridiculously bad clock management and game awareness, and a constant deer in the headlights look on his face.

Bullshit. It's ALL Smiths fault. /morons.

rabblerouser 09-29-2015 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 11764071)
Bullshit. It's ALL Smiths fault. /morons.

Then who is the dipshit that keeps trotting Alice out there to suck??

We may as well do what Chicago did on Sunday - punt every possession.

GloucesterChief 09-29-2015 09:05 AM

Reid's offense is great when the QB has no problem throwing it deep occasionally. Smith unlike Vick or McNabb can't or won't do it. That is one problem.

The other problem is that Reid is too loyal and won't fire or bench people when it needs to happen. So Sutton needs to go but that won't happen. Smith needs to be benched but that won't happen either.

rabblerouser 09-29-2015 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GloucesterChief (Post 11764087)
Reid's offense is great when the QB has no problem throwing it deep occasionally. Smith unlike Vick or McNabb can't or won't do it. That is one problem.

The other problem is that Reid is too loyal and won't fire or bench people when it needs to happen. So Sutton needs to go but that won't happen. Smith needs to be benched but that won't happen either.

So Reid would be a good coach with a better QB and DC??

Hmmmm...

xztop123 09-29-2015 09:08 AM

The problem is the same as last year.

Stupid defensive coaching. We don't have the secondary to play man press every ****ing down. We had a safety trying to press man last night. thats insane

We have no zone defense installed

GloucesterChief 09-29-2015 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 11764090)
So Reid would be a good coach with a better QB and DC??

Hmmmm...

Yes but that is also his responsibility to make sure that the QB and DC are doing their job. If not corrections need to be made. Reid is loyal but that loyalty can be a fault when it prevents him from making necessary changes to improve the team. It is what got him fired from Philly.

rabblerouser 09-29-2015 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by xztop123 (Post 11764097)
The problem is the same as last year.

Stupid defensive coaching. We don't have the secondary to play man press every ****ing down. We had a safety trying to press man last night. thats insane

We have no zone defense installed

Not having any zone defense has nothing to do with Alice being 2 for 7 for 39 yards in the first half yesterday.

xztop123 09-29-2015 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 11746455)
Sutton has more talent to work with than the offense does


Sutton still can't/won't adjust, even though he has talent all over the field.

This defense requires Revis and Cromartie to work. It puts a tremendous amount of pressure on CB and a QB can pretty much pick which one he wants to attack.

If Sean Smith, Marcus Peters and Nelson were all playing at a high level I can see it working. or if we had 3 marcus peters

xztop123 09-29-2015 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 11764106)
Not having any zone defense has nothing to do with Alice being 2 for 7 for 39 yards in the first half yesterday.

That happens though.

The offensive line is brand new and that kind of stuff just happens, even to good teams. You'll see Big Ben with those kind of stats every now and then for a half.

putting a safety in man to man on an island against the greenbay packers is insane

rabblerouser 09-29-2015 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xztop123 (Post 11764113)
That happens though.

The offensive line is brand new and that kind of stuff just happens, even to good teams. You'll see Big Ben with those kind of stats every now and then for a half.

putting a safety in man to man on an island against the greenbay packers is insane

Rodgers would've just picked apart the zone featuring Fleming, Cooper and Branch.

At least with Man coverage there is a possibility (however remote) that Cooper may have ****ed around and got in front of a Rodgers pass to pick it off...

Of course, Mauga (and Fleming last week) proved that if the ball winds up hitting you in the hands, you shouldn't act surprised and then drop it like a hot potato.

OctoberFart 09-29-2015 09:33 AM

Reid is definitely overrated and a below average coach.

Sweet Daddy Hate 09-29-2015 09:48 AM

Retire his ass.

rabblerouser 09-29-2015 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Williams (Post 11764248)
Retire his ass.

Taylor Swift - PARODY - We Are Never Ever Gonna …: http://youtu.be/Z447qc4ZRRA

Sweet Daddy Hate 09-29-2015 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 11764309)
Taylor Swift - PARODY - We Are Never Ever Gonna …: http://youtu.be/Z447qc4ZRRA

Yep. The sooner that gets played across the Kingdumb, the better.

rabblerouser 09-29-2015 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Williams (Post 11764311)
Yep. The sooner that gets played across the Kingdumb, the better.

It's just Tha troof.

OctoberFart 09-30-2015 02:29 AM

Did Andy say in his post game loser speech that he needs to do a better job?

Sweet Daddy Hate 09-30-2015 03:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OctoberFart (Post 11765764)
Did Andy say in his post game loser speech that he needs to do a better job?

No, he said:

I need to...nom-nom-nom-nom(mixed plate).....smell that....nom-nom-nom...Q IN THE LOT!

New World Order 09-30-2015 03:24 AM

How about when he called the timeout after the clock had been stopped at the 2:39 mark in the 4th quarter.

What a ****ing idiot.

njbill 09-30-2015 05:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OctoberFart (Post 11765764)
Did Andy say in his post game loser speech that he needs to do a better job?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wR8mrqR6WOc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f460lcf7wGs

King_Chief_Fan 09-30-2015 05:32 AM

How many times are you guys going to say what has already been said by someone else?

Sweet Daddy Hate 09-30-2015 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan (Post 11765811)
How many times are you guys going to say what has already been said by someone else?

As many times as it takes to drive the narrative to the unwashed masses.

King_Chief_Fan 09-30-2015 06:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Williams (Post 11765821)
As many times as it takes to drive the narrative to the unwashed masses.

ROFL

InChiefsHeaven 09-30-2015 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 11764309)
Taylor Swift - PARODY - We Are Never Ever Gonna …: http://youtu.be/Z447qc4ZRRA

Holy shit. That's...awesome and sad all at the same time...

rabblerouser 09-30-2015 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InChiefsHell (Post 11765913)
Holy shit. That's...awesome and sad all at the same time...

Sad...and awesome...Because it's true.

keg in kc 09-30-2015 07:13 AM

I feel like I've been trying to convince people of this for the last three years. Oh wait. I have.

But what else should I expect from a fan base that still loves Martyocre Schottenheimer to this day. We can be a little slow sometimes.

TEX 09-30-2015 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xztop123 (Post 11764108)
This defense requires Revis and Cromartie to work. It puts a tremendous amount of pressure on CB and a QB can pretty much pick which one he wants to attack.

If Sean Smith, Marcus Peters and Nelson were all playing at a high level I can see it working. or if we had 3 marcus peters

And that's why I had us exactly where we are now when I heard that Sean Smith would be suspended for 3 games. Actually had us at 1-3 because I figured he'd need a game to get in playing shape. Sean Smith is such a F**KING IDIOT.

notorious 09-30-2015 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 11765948)
And that's why I had us exactly where we are now when I heard that Sean Smith would be suspended for 3 games. Actually had us at 1-3 because I figured he'd need a game to get in playing shape. Sean Smith is such a F**KING IDIOT.

I had the team at 1-3 because 3 of the teams have a QB that is way better.

Sweet Daddy Hate 09-30-2015 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 11765941)
I feel like I've been trying to convince people of this for the last three years. Oh wait. I have.

But what else should I expect from a fan base that still loves Martyocre Schottenheimer to this day. We can be a little slow sometimes.

With limited duties and a change of venue, I was hoping Reid would turn his personal act around. But, like Alex Smith; leopard-spots-etc.

rabblerouser 10-04-2015 12:33 PM

Terrible.

scho63 10-04-2015 02:50 PM

He is immensely overrated.

Rausch 10-04-2015 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 11775189)
He is immensely overrated.

This...

GloucesterChief 10-04-2015 02:53 PM

It doesn't help when the FO goes maybe 1-3 in 1st round draft picks.

GloryDayz 10-04-2015 02:53 PM

He's smarter than CHunt, so there's that....

Sweet Daddy Hate 10-04-2015 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GloucesterChief (Post 11775202)
It doesn't help when the FO goes maybe 1-3 in 1st round draft picks.

Nor does it help when the FO is being forced to prop-up a shitheel, so there's that.

rabblerouser 10-04-2015 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Williams (Post 11775245)
Nor does it help when the FO is being forced to prop-up a shitheel, so there's that.

Indeed.

It would be intriguing to see who the FO would bring in, were they allowed to bring in their own coaching staff...

Sweet Daddy Hate 10-04-2015 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 11775296)
Indeed.

It would be intriguing to see who the FO would bring in, were they allowed to bring in their own coaching staff...

I support this maneuver, and the banishment of ALL things Utah from Chiefs Kingdumb.

Jerm 10-04-2015 05:26 PM

Another play calling gem from ole Andy today...brilliant idea to give Jamaal 11 rushes when possession and ball control is the key.

New World Order 10-04-2015 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 11775700)
Another play calling gem from ole Andy today...brilliant idea to give Jamaal 11 rushes when possession and ball control is the key.


7.5 ypc. Count on Andy to go away from something that works.

Jerm 10-04-2015 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 11775702)
7.5 ypc. Count on Andy to go away from something that works.

I was literally yelling at the TV lol....it's not rocket science, we were gouging them on the ground and of course like you said he went away from it.

It's just mind boggling...

Bob Dole 10-04-2015 05:41 PM

Let's get in the red zone 6 times and never call a play where a receiver is in the end zone.

Brilliant!

FloridaMan88 10-04-2015 05:44 PM

Why did Reid take Charles out of the game for ENTIRE offensive drives in the second half?

I get wanting to keep him fresh and rotating West in (who I guess is the back-up RB now over Davis?)

But can't this be done with a few plays, without having to bench Charles for entire drives?

Reerun_KC 10-04-2015 05:45 PM

Did Andy and Smith get a delay of game with .33 left in the fist half?

GloryDayz 10-04-2015 05:46 PM

I'm sure Andy's hemorrhoids will be along soon enough to tell us all that "we don't get it", "we don't know what he knows", "there are reasons he has to make those decisions", "it's a short field at that point, that changes everything."

When what they really mean to say, "We aren't, WTF are you talking about!!!"

Sweet Daddy Hate 10-04-2015 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 11775746)
Did Andy and Smith get a delay of game with .33 left in the fist half?

Why yes, yes they did.

GloryDayz 10-04-2015 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 11775746)
Did Andy and Smith get a delay of game with .33 left in the fist half?

But it's a hard game, and the timeouts, they're so short....

Reerun_KC 10-04-2015 05:49 PM

Can someone explain why a coach of Andy's stature would continue to have those issues?

GloryDayz 10-04-2015 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 11775762)
Can someone explain why a coach of Andy's stature would continue to have those issues?

Alzheimers?

ClevelandBronco 10-04-2015 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 11775746)
Did Andy and Smith get a delay of game with .33 left in the fist half?

I've noticed that the second half is usually the fist half for you guys.

Sweet Daddy Hate 10-04-2015 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco (Post 11775787)
I've noticed that the second half is usually the fist half for you guys.

ROFL

Or as I call it; The ****ening Time.

GloryDayz 10-04-2015 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco (Post 11775787)
I've noticed that the second half is usually the fist half for you guys.

Nah, we start playing well during junk time...

Reerun_KC 10-04-2015 06:08 PM

Since I refused to watch the game. Did I read this right that they got the delay of game coming out of a time out?

Please , please tell me this isn't true.

Sweet Daddy Hate 10-04-2015 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 11775817)
Since I refused to watch the game. Did I read this right that they got the delay of game coming out of a time out?

Please , please tell me this isn't true.

Oh, but indeed it is.

GloryDayz 10-04-2015 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 11775817)
Since I refused to watch the game. Did I read this right that they got the delay of game coming out of a time out?

Please , please tell me this isn't true.

http://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.M3...5d8H0&pid=15.1

Sweet Daddy Hate 10-04-2015 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 11775825)

ROFLROFLROFL

Discuss Thrower 10-04-2015 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 11775817)
Since I refused to watch the game. Did I read this right that they got the delay of game coming out of a time out?

Please , please tell me this isn't true.

For calling a second timeout.

Reerun_KC 10-04-2015 06:13 PM

I have no words.

Reerun_KC 10-04-2015 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 11775833)
For calling a second timeout.

No no no you can't be serious? Back to back timeouts?

FloridaMan88 10-04-2015 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 11775817)
Since I refused to watch the game. Did I read this right that they got the delay of game coming out of a time out?

Please , please tell me this isn't true.

Alex Smith's explanation (excuse) after the game was that they thought it was a TV time out where they would get added time to the usual time out.

GloryDayz 10-04-2015 06:14 PM

Anybody got a link to Fat-Andy's postgame blabbering? I'd love to hear it for myself...

Sweet Daddy Hate 10-04-2015 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 11775838)
I have no words.

No words are necessary, Reerun. Just fire up the smooth strains of PT Barnum, and let your imagination run wild...

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/zjedLeVGcfE" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

HUZZAH!

ROFL

Discuss Thrower 10-04-2015 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 11775842)
No no no you can't be serious? Back to back timeouts?

100% no bullshit.

Sweet Daddy Hate 10-04-2015 06:17 PM

Oh shit I can't stop laughing.... LMAOLMAOLMAO

Dayze 10-04-2015 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 11775846)
Anybody got a link to Fat-Andy's postgame blabbering? I'd love to hear it for myself...

Me too

stumppy 10-04-2015 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 11775846)
Anybody got a link to Fat-Andy's postgame blabbering? I'd love to hear it for myself...

Let me sum it up for you.

He takes full responsibility for the loss and they've got to do a better job.

GloryDayz 10-04-2015 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stumppy (Post 11775870)
Let me sum it up for you.

He takes full responsibility for the loss and they've got to do a better job.

Wait, that was last week's. I was wondering about this week's?

ILChief 10-04-2015 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 11775875)
Wait, that was last week's. I was wondering about this week's?

This team has character and he believes in them. Fine line between winning and losing

the Talking Can 10-04-2015 07:12 PM

these coaches suck a lot of wang

Sweet Daddy Hate 10-04-2015 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILChief (Post 11775970)
This team has character and he believes in them. Fine line between winning and losing

This team, under Reid and especially Sutton, has become softer than the retirement community on a Viagra drought.

Jerm 10-04-2015 08:01 PM

It still baffles me as to why Reid would like to continually throw bubble screens to Kelce or end arounds to Thomas instead of ****ING HANDING THE BALL OFF TO OUR BEST OFFENSIVE PLAYER.....

Jerm 10-04-2015 08:06 PM

Not to mention the brilliant call to not go for it on 4th & 10 in the redzone when you're down 14 with 9 minutes left against an offense you haven't stopped all game.

His post game explanation about that call was esp. :facepalm: worthy....


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