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Megatron96 09-26-2023 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Balto (Post 17131764)
20%? Thats much higher than I would have guessed.


Was a little surprising to me as well.


Same article said that ‘unexpected’ onsides kicks had a probability of success over 50%, but that might be due to the rarity of tries.

FloridaMan88 03-03-2024 02:24 PM

Might as well just eliminate the onsides kick and go with another option.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">No surprises: The new kickoff rule crafted by NFL special teams coordinators would allow teams to attempt an onside kick only when trailing in the fourth quarter — and require them to declare it in advance, per sources.<br><br>Language still being finalized and owners must approve. <a href="https://t.co/HYJKv3EZtP">pic.twitter.com/HYJKv3EZtP</a></p>&mdash; Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) <a href="https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1764368269568303291?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 3, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

BWillie 03-03-2024 02:28 PM

Ban the tush push....because we won't do it!

Hayneplane 03-03-2024 02:51 PM

If you have to tell the opposition what you are going to do it is just ludicrous and a waste of time.

philfree 03-03-2024 02:59 PM

I guess if a team is going to fake a punt or FG they should have to tell the other team in advance as well.

Rain Man 03-03-2024 04:22 PM

My proposed new rule is that you declare an onsides kick and kick off with five footballs. One is marked with an X and it's the real one. Whoever recovers it gets the ball at the spot of recovery.

displacedinMN 03-03-2024 04:39 PM

if the Bills proposed it, will it come back and bite them on the ass?

Chief Pagan 03-03-2024 06:57 PM

I think it's clear, the NFL just doesn't like kick offs.

So given that, I would just get rid off kick offs. I know its traditional, but rules have been changed before and the NFL has been killing it anyway.

Pasta Little Brioni 03-03-2024 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17131501)
They need to eliminate the damn thing entirely. It's not only not safe but it's like the old FG attempt. The play is useless bc it almost never works.

Replace it with one of the following:

1. 55 yard FG to get the ball at own 25 ~ opposing team picks which side of the field the kick occurs.
2. Down and 10 from their own 5 yard line. If you get at least 10 yards you get 1st and 10 with the chance to go 85 yards to score

The Chiefs would literally get the ball back every time the scored ROFL 55 yarder ROFL

Chief Pagan 03-03-2024 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brioni (Post 17426744)
The Chiefs would literally get the ball back every time the scored ROFL 55 yarder ROFL

Andy won't even go for it on say, fourth and five before mid field, so no.

But that rule is problematic because of how some teams would be favored.

So good luck getting the other owners agreeing to it.

Ming the Merciless 03-03-2024 08:16 PM

train a long time to.try and be able to.do this every single time:

https://youtube.com/shorts/P4kVDGPbf...3Jtj7gR4SFNVF_

Pitt Gorilla 03-03-2024 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17131501)
They need to eliminate the damn thing entirely. It's not only not safe but it's like the old FG attempt. The play is useless bc it almost never works.

Replace it with one of the following:

1. 55 yard FG to get the ball at own 25 ~ opposing team picks which side of the field the kick occurs.
2. Down and 10 from their own 5 yard line. If you get at least 10 yards you get 1st and 10 with the chance to go 85 yards to score

So, KC NEVER gives the ball to the other team? Sounds good to me, honestly.

Pitt Gorilla 03-03-2024 08:50 PM

If you really want to get rid of the onside kick, use an icosahedron. Kicking team gets 1 or 2 sides (depending on what the NFL decides) to keep the ball.

Womble 03-04-2024 09:48 AM

The onside kicks that are normally converted happen when the team receiving doesn't suspect the onside will occur. When it's time for the onside in the final 2 minutes to keep the game alive then it's very rarely converted. This new rule will just make the game even more boring because you'll get no successful onside kicks in a whole season and zero chance of a holy shit play like NO did in the Super Bowl. They hate fun.

Rain Man 03-04-2024 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 17426784)
If you really want to get rid of the onside kick, use an icosahedron. Kicking team gets 1 or 2 sides (depending on what the NFL decides) to keep the ball.


Can we make it really big, like 20 feet per side, and then each team can push it with 11 players?


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