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DJ's left nut 04-09-2019 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14199221)
I’m not saying I wouldn’t take him at 29, but if he’s sitting there at said pick, why do they have to take him? Shouldn’t we assume he’s fallen that far for a reason?

It wouldn’t be a Derwin James scenario.

Yeah, there are scenarios where Greedy at 29 may not be the best guy on the board. Not a lot of them, but they exist.

Though I can't get myself as down on him as some of the draft guys are; I'm not putting folks like Ya Sin or Oruwariye ahead of him as I've seen from a few of these dudes.

He's a solid developmental prospect who's just not quite as the obvious 'Day 1 starter' as the building consensus was when the draft season kicked off, IMO. And even if he is the top CB in the class (though I don't believe he is), that's a testament to the weakness of the CB crop this year more than it is Greedy's prospect status. It just isn't a very good CB class.

pugsnotdrugs19 04-09-2019 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14199227)
Greedy's more flexible than Claiborne. Claiborne just looked so damn stiff that it wasn't a surprise that he couldn't do much in man.

I don't quite see that from Greedy. Honestly I'm not sure exactly what I don't like about him - he just doesn't seem terribly aware out there at times. The athleticism is good, the agility will play. He just kinda loses the thread at times.

Like I said - at 29 I'd probably gamble and see if we can get him to engage more often because he does have starting CB physical tools. But there's more bust potential there than most guys with his attributes because you can't have a space cadet on an island. It just doesn't work - he'll burn you at the worst time every time.

I just watched his full game against Ole Miss last year where he was almost exclusively on Metcalf. Did a solid job. No big plays that I can recall. Had one stupid penalty and drew an OPI from Metcalf as well.

Looked very fluid in press man and ‘sticky’ on a play-to-play basis. The game got a little out of hand eventually on the scoreboard and I think their defense started to let off the gas, playing more off zone.

Wish he would’ve covered Brown more than he did to get a better look against a solid route runner.

DJ's left nut 04-09-2019 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14199242)
I just watched his full game against Ole Miss last year where he was almost exclusively on Metcalf. Did a solid job. No big plays that I can recall. Had one stupid penalty and drew an OPI from Metcalf as well.

Looked very fluid in press man and ‘sticky’ on a play-to-play basis. The game got a little out of hand eventually on the scoreboard and I think their defense started to let off the gas, playing more off zone.

Wish he would’ve covered Brown more than he did to get a better look against a solid route runner.

I was so bummed out seeing Kristian Fulton return to LSU. He was my under the radar CB prospect in this draft. I actually thought he looked better on most plays than Williams did.

I actually think Fulton is a better long-term bet than Williams is and I think he could easily play himself into the 1st round this year. That kid looks outstanding.

pugsnotdrugs19 04-09-2019 09:57 AM

Also looked at some of Greedy’s Georgia game—very patient at the LOS. Pretty much shut down Ridley from what I saw. Definitely a press man corner through and through.

If you take him, you hope this staff and the tougher minded defenders they’ve brought in will rub off on him as he becomes a ‘pro’.


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