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RunKC 02-29-2024 12:53 PM

Irony of calling WR’s an alpha and shitting on skinnier WR’s while stanning Zay Flowers who is 5’9” and had to work his ass off just to put on weight to get to 180 lbs LMAO

staylor26 02-29-2024 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17422756)
Irony of calling WR’s an alpha and shitting on skinnier WR’s while stanning Zay Flowers who is 5’9” and had to work his ass off just to put on weight to get to 180 lbs LMAO

It's just so odd.

Dude is acting like 2 of the best rookie WRs weren't tiny last year.

Conveniently, can't find a take from him on either guy last year.

Couch-Potato 02-29-2024 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17422747)
Yeah, everyone trying to find the next MVS or Mecole or Skyy Moore when the only WR we drafted that is good in the last 6 years is a beast in Rice.

I'm not completely against this sentiment, but hard to argue that Tyreek wasn't amazing in Andy's offense and that he's partial to smaller, speedier, separators traditionally.

MahomesMagic 02-29-2024 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17422756)
Irony of calling WR’s an alpha and shitting on skinnier WR’s while stanning Zay Flowers who is 5’9” and had to work his ass off just to put on weight to get to 180 lbs LMAO

Because he is good.


If you are a small WR I need some Wow.

Zay is a wow player.


QJ last year was big but a clumsy oaf.

staylor26 02-29-2024 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17422769)
Because he is good.


If you are a small WR I need some Wow.

Zay is a wow player.


QJ last year was big but a clumsy oaf.

So guys that are small can be good?

Then stop pretending that they aren't good simply because they're small you disingenuous bastard.

Your cognitive dissonance is showing.

MahomesMagic 02-29-2024 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 17422767)
I'm not completely against this sentiment, but hard to argue that Tyreek wasn't amazing in Andy's offense and that he's partial to smaller, speedier, separators traditionally.

Yes, Tyreek was the most dynamic separator of all time and Veach traded him.


Please don't mention little Worthy or frail Franklin in the same sentence as the Cheetah.

MahomesMagic 02-29-2024 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17422771)
So guys that are small can be good?

Then stop pretending that they aren't good because they're small you disingenuous bastard.

DUH!

But if you are going to draft a WR that is tiny early they better WOW me.


None of the small or frail guys you are promoting for the 1st round pick are wow players.

Couch-Potato 02-29-2024 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17422773)
Yes, Tyreek was the most dynamic separator of all time and Veach traded him.


Please don't mention little Worthy or frail Franklin in the same sentence as the Cheetah.

Fair.

MahomesMagic 02-29-2024 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 17422781)
Fair.

BTW, I had a 1st round grade on Hollywood Brown because he was dynamic.

I was too high on little KJ a few years ago so now you better be a Flowers or Addison if you are small.

Not pedestrian.

staylor26 02-29-2024 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17422777)
DUH!

But if you are going to draft a WR that is tiny early they better WOW me.


None of the small or frail guys you are promoting for the 1st round pick are wow players.

You're conveniently ignoring the second part of that post.

O.city 02-29-2024 01:20 PM

Worthy is a similar prospect to Hollywood. That's a good comparison, thanks.

MahomesMagic 02-29-2024 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17422819)
Worthy is a similar prospect to Hollywood. That's a good comparison, thanks.

Nope.


Not even close.

kccrow 02-29-2024 01:26 PM

Let's define Alpha WR for a minute.

Ok, so just to be a bonafide #1 in the NFL you pretty much need 75 receptions, 1000 yards, and 6 TDs. That means you'd finish in the top 32 in each of the major statistical categories for a WR.

One way to quickly narrow that list is to see who's done it in consecutive seasons. If I pick 3 consecutive seasons as my Alpha benchmark, adjust for injury, then I should get a nice list.

Then here is your Alpha List:

A.J. Brown
CeeDee Lamb
Cooper Kupp
Davante Adams
Ja'Marr Chase
Justin Jefferson
Keenan Allen
Mike Evans
Stefon Diggs
Tyreek Hill

Chance to get 3 in a row in 2024 and become Alpha's by this definition
Amon-Ra St. Brown
Brandon Aiyuk
DeVonta Smith


You know who doesn't profile like any of these guys? :)

O.city 02-29-2024 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17422825)
Nope.


Not even close.

Worthy is bigger, so that's true.

RunKC 02-29-2024 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17422762)
It's just so odd.

Dude is acting like 2 of the best rookie WRs weren't tiny last year.

Conveniently, can't find a take from him on either guy last year.

And Flowers isn’t even a deep threat or outside boundary guy. He’s mostly a slot WR who beats teams in the intermediate level of the field.

He was never a 1st rd WR to me. I’d take Jayden Reed over him all day


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