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DaFace 05-30-2020 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 14996210)
Wispy clouds to the west were not a friend this time. Caught a glimpse of the ISS for about 10 to 15 seconds to the West - NW, but that was it.



Maybe tomorrow night, if they are not hooked up already.

Docking is at 10:30am Eastern. :)

(It'll be streamed live for those interested.)

Coogs 05-30-2020 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 14996212)
Docking is at 10:30am Eastern. :)

(It'll be streamed live for those interested.)

:thumb:

Wish you could have seen them both go by a couple of hours ago DeFace. Pretty darn cool!

unlurking 05-31-2020 06:04 AM

Current image of the dragon from ISS is very cool.

Hog's Gone Fishin 05-31-2020 06:19 AM

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/bIZsnKGV8TE" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Hog's Gone Fishin 05-31-2020 06:35 AM

Traveling at 17,000 MPH and gaining on the space station at 1.7 meters per second

Hog's Gone Fishin 05-31-2020 06:36 AM

1 mile from space station

GloryDayz 05-31-2020 07:13 AM

I hope they hurry, I've got to get back to the lake! Ugh..

ChiliConCarnage 05-31-2020 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 14996397)
Traveling at 17,000 MPH and gaining on the space station at 1.7 meters per second


Hurry it up, slow pokes!! My grandma drives faster than 17k in the right hand lane

Donger 05-31-2020 07:34 AM

What are they using for maneuvering? The Dracos?

DaFace 05-31-2020 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 14996450)
What are they using for maneuvering? The Dracos?

Yep.

EDIT: In case it's helpful to clarify, there are Draco thrusters (which are the same as they've used on Dragon V1) and SuperDraco engines (which are used for launch abort situations). They use the former to maneuver in space - the latter are just for emergencies (though they had originally hoped to use them for propulsive landing instead).

Hog's Gone Fishin 05-31-2020 07:47 AM

31K thumbs down on the live stream. whats wrong with people? Maybe North Koreans and Russians

DaFace 05-31-2020 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 14996469)
31K thumbs down on the live stream. whats wrong with people? Maybe North Koreans and Russians

Probably some combination of 1) trolls, 2) mistakes, and 3) people who still think that space exploration isn't a good use of funds.

Donger 05-31-2020 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 14996456)
Yep.

EDIT: In case it's helpful to clarify, there are Draco thrusters (which are the same as they've used on Dragon V1) and SuperDraco engines (which are used for launch abort situations). They use the former to maneuver in space - the latter are just for emergencies (though they had originally hoped to use them for propulsive landing instead).

Thanks.

Hog's Gone Fishin 05-31-2020 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 14996473)
Probably some combination of 1) trolls, 2) mistakes, and 3) people who still think that space exploration isn't a good use of funds.

Or maybe they were disappointed there was no explosion.

Hog's Gone Fishin 05-31-2020 07:55 AM

Has anybody else noticed a little wobble from time to time kinda like its just dangling on puppet strings. Maybe this is all fake?

Coogs 05-31-2020 08:01 AM

I'm just tuning in. When they are talking axis's. Is Z vertical? And if so, is X or Y right and left?

Donger 05-31-2020 08:05 AM

What's "big loop"?

Donger 05-31-2020 08:10 AM

The trunk contains cargo and is unpressurized, right?

DaFace 05-31-2020 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 14996493)
I'm just tuning in. When they are talking axis's. Is Z vertical? And if so, is X or Y right and left?

It's probably easiest just to try it yourself:

https://iss-sim.spacex.com/

Hog's Gone Fishin 05-31-2020 08:10 AM

Design flaw. That cone flipped up is right in front of the windshield.

DaFace 05-31-2020 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 14996499)
What's "big loop"?

Not 100% sure. Maybe they're referring to radio loops? (channels with everyone = the big loop?)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 14996503)
The trunk contains cargo and is unpressurized, right?

Yes, though I'm not sure there's actually any cargo this time.

Coogs 05-31-2020 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 14996504)
It's probably easiest just to try it yourself:

https://iss-sim.spacex.com/

I will try this after while. This looks pretty cool.

Donger 05-31-2020 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 14996508)
Not 100% sure. Maybe they're referring to radio loops? (channels with everyone = the big loop?)

Sounds like it, yes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 14996508)
Yes, though I'm not sure there's actually any cargo this time.

How is it accessed from Dragon?

DaFace 05-31-2020 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 14996511)
Sounds like it, yes.



How is it accessed from Dragon?

It's not. The trunk only holds unpressurized cargo, and they grab it out of there with Canadarm.

Donger 05-31-2020 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 14996513)
It's not. The trunk only holds unpressurized cargo, and they grab it out of there with Canadarm.

While it's still attached to Dragon? Or do they detach the trunk and pick stuff out?

DaFace 05-31-2020 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 14996515)
While it's still attached to Dragon? Or do they detach the trunk and pick stuff out?

While it's still attached. There are probably videos of it from Dragon V1 out there if you're curious enough to dig for it.

Here's the gist:

https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2013...new-milestone/

unlurking 05-31-2020 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 14996516)
While it's still attached. There are probably videos of it from Dragon V1 out there if you're curious enough to dig for it.

Here's the gist:

https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2013...new-milestone/

BEAM getting extracted from trunk and installed. Long video since it is slow.



<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/oJgvJGpq1iQ?start=1817" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Donger 05-31-2020 08:32 AM

Ha! How cool. Dragon, arriving.

Donger 05-31-2020 08:35 AM

Thanks guys. So the bottom of the trunk has a door/hatch, or is it just exposed to space all the time?

DeepPurple 05-31-2020 08:55 AM

Jay Leno and Elon Musk inside the new Cypertruck

https://postmediadriving.files.wordp...0&h=370&crop=1

The new Cypertruck

https://www.supercars.net/blog/wp-co...2.04.14-PM.png

Elon Musk has a company called the Boring Company. They can build large round underground tunnels which he plans to build in California so Telsa's can bypass traffic. Jay Leno drives the Cypertruck through a mile long Boring Tunnel at the factory.

https://www.carscoops.com/wp-content...k-1024x555.jpg

Melbourne, Florida Charging Station

https://imagez.tmz.com/image/e0/o/20...bd20e11_md.jpg

Elon Musk outside waiting on the burgers

https://img.particlenews.com/image.p...oVY_0PBR6IRT00

I've seen more Elon Musk this week than I have ever before combined, I got to know more about him, which was good. I watch Jay Leno's Garage Show on CNBC every week since that show started about 5 years ago. This past Wednesday's show was at the Telsa Company, filmed last November. The new Telsa cars have model names such as S, E, X, Y, you should be able to figure out why those letters were chosen.

He has a new Cypertruck, shown above, it's stainless steel and windows are bulletproof, no particular reason, just because he could. Unlike most prototypes that look nothing like the eventual car, he wants his prototypes to like the real thing. The truck is basically ready for production except he will shrink it 5% all over so it will fit in the average garage. On the back, the bed is covered by a motorized roll down top, to protect the cargo. It's also strong, when Jay asked how strong it was, Alon got up on the cover and it held.

The new cars look fantastic, they fast, he has one model that will sell for $200,000 but it will go 0-60 in 1.9 seconds. It fact it will have a rocket thruster like James Bond. The license plate will fold down and a rocket thruster will be available.

Last week when the original launch at the Cape was cancelled, later that day he was spotted at Five Guys in Melbourne, Florida. I was watching Orlando Fox 35 local news that night and they had a crew go there. Apparently it has the closest Tesla Charging station, so Elon and his entourage showed up to charge their cars and while waiting they went to Five Guys, look like he had about five cars. Elon stayed outside and talked with a crowd that quickly gathered and stood for photos, while his entourage went inside to order burgers to go.

Entourage ordering burgers, everybody wears the same black suit like Elon and looks like they've got bulletproof vests on.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZI05OhWoAAqBQ1.jpg

unlurking 05-31-2020 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 14996525)
Thanks guys. So the bottom of the trunk has a door/hatch, or is it just exposed to space all the time?

Exposed. Quick search doesn't show any images of it in space, but here is one on the ground. Notice the targeting/connection point for the arm...


https://www.teslarati.com/wp-content...1-1024x967.jpg

Donger 05-31-2020 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unlurking (Post 14996556)
Exposed. Quick search doesn't show any images of it in space, but here is one on the ground. Notice the targeting/connection point for the arm...


https://www.teslarati.com/wp-content...1-1024x967.jpg

Very cool! Thanks!

unlurking 05-31-2020 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 14996560)
Very cool! Thanks!

Apparently I'm an idiot in the mornings. Here's video of stage 2 sep from cargo, with camera view of the trunk with the BEAM module in it...

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/J2KRKccfojs?start=424" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Donger 05-31-2020 09:54 AM

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/lrWOUDQodaI" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

DaFace 05-31-2020 10:16 AM

Here's the one from this morning as well.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/vz86bq27zGQ" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

srvy 05-31-2020 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeepPurple (Post 14996555)
Jay Leno and Elon Musk inside the new Cypertruck

https://postmediadriving.files.wordp...0&h=370&crop=1

The new Cypertruck

https://www.supercars.net/blog/wp-co...2.04.14-PM.png

Elon Musk has a company called the Boring Company. They can build large round underground tunnels which he plans to build in California so Telsa's can bypass traffic. Jay Leno drives the Cypertruck through a mile long Boring Tunnel at the factory.

https://www.carscoops.com/wp-content...k-1024x555.jpg

Melbourne, Florida Charging Station

https://imagez.tmz.com/image/e0/o/20...bd20e11_md.jpg

Elon Musk outside waiting on the burgers

https://img.particlenews.com/image.p...oVY_0PBR6IRT00

I've seen more Elon Musk this week than I have ever before combined, I got to know more about him, which was good. I watch Jay Leno's Garage Show on CNBC every week since that show started about 5 years ago. This past Wednesday's show was at the Telsa Company, filmed last November. The new Telsa cars have model names such as S, E, X, Y, you should be able to figure out why those letters were chosen.

He has a new Cypertruck, shown above, it's stainless steel and windows are bulletproof, no particular reason, just because he could. Unlike most prototypes that look nothing like the eventual car, he wants his prototypes to like the real thing. The truck is basically ready for production except he will shrink it 5% all over so it will fit in the average garage. On the back, the bed is covered by a motorized roll down top, to protect the cargo. It's also strong, when Jay asked how strong it was, Alon got up on the cover and it held.

The new cars look fantastic, they fast, he has one model that will sell for $200,000 but it will go 0-60 in 1.9 seconds. It fact it will have a rocket thruster like James Bond. The license plate will fold down and a rocket thruster will be available.

Last week when the original launch at the Cape was cancelled, later that day he was spotted at Five Guys in Melbourne, Florida. I was watching Orlando Fox 35 local news that night and they had a crew go there. Apparently it has the closest Tesla Charging station, so Elon and his entourage showed up to charge their cars and while waiting they went to Five Guys, look like he had about five cars. Elon stayed outside and talked with a crowd that quickly gathered and stood for photos, while his entourage went inside to order burgers to go.

Entourage ordering burgers, everybody wears the same black suit like Elon and looks like they've got bulletproof vests on.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZI05OhWoAAqBQ1.jpg

He makes nice spacecraft but I still hate his truck.

Donger 05-31-2020 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 14996680)
Here's the one from this morning as well.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/vz86bq27zGQ" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Bob's comments on the ascent were interesting. Maybe more violent than expected?

srvy 05-31-2020 01:05 PM

This was so interesting reminded me of as a Lil tike watching newsreels Gemini and Mercury on the black and white with family. Then later live with the Apolo launches and what we got to see of walks then splashdowns.

The news conference from ground control dignitaries got to be a bit much inside the ISS.

Did Bob skin his forehead entering the ISS? He kept wiping his forehead and rubbing right side his head.

Donger 05-31-2020 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by srvy (Post 14997006)
Did Bob skin his forehead entering the ISS? He kept wiping his forehead and rubbing right side his head.

Yep:

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/BU1F3uXyxkA?start=185" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Prison Bitch 05-31-2020 01:55 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">That’s nothing, my wife parallel parked first attempt last week.</p>&mdash; ������������ ���������������� ������. (@topfotogmw) <a href="https://twitter.com/topfotogmw/status/1267050184929873920?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 31, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

srvy 05-31-2020 01:56 PM

Interesting a Navy Seal astronaut that looks like a Trident on the left shoulder of his light blue jumpsuit. He is probably there to keep an eye on the Ruskies. Can't have them poking holes in the ISS or sabotaging the Dragon.

srvy 05-31-2020 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 14997028)
Yep:

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/BU1F3uXyxkA?start=185" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Bobs blood floating around in zero gravity :D

Fish 06-01-2020 09:32 AM

https://i.imgur.com/vUZmntt.jpg

GloryDayz 06-01-2020 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fish (Post 14998539)

Like the new space suits that look like white riding leathers with rubber boots, the 2002 cockpit looks a lot cooler (to me).

unlurking 06-01-2020 11:10 AM

Just wait until you see the Blue Origin lander cockpit. Zero controls at all. Just a microphone.


Dave: "Alexa, please don't crash."


Halexa: "Please call me Hal, Dave."

BigRedChief 06-02-2020 04:57 PM

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Florida from the space station

unlurking 06-02-2020 06:16 PM

JRTI is finally back in service tomorrow night for Starlink 7, fresh from the upgrade docks!


https://www.spacexfleet.com/just-read-the-instructions



https://static.wixstatic.com/media/c...090b2~mv2.webp

Fish 06-02-2020 08:09 PM

<blockquote class="reddit-card" data-card-created="1591148534"><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/SweatyPalms/comments/gvfxtk/amazing_footage_of_earth_during_a_spacewalk_on_iss/">Amazing footage of Earth during a spacewalk on ISS</a> from <a href="http://www.reddit.com/r/SweatyPalms">r/SweatyPalms</a></blockquote>
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DaFace 06-02-2020 11:14 PM

Cool to see one of these come back with the NASA logo on it.

https://i.redd.it/obzolyyhgl251.jpg

srvy 06-03-2020 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fish (Post 15002307)
<blockquote class="reddit-card" data-card-created="1591148534"><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/SweatyPalms/comments/gvfxtk/amazing_footage_of_earth_during_a_spacewalk_on_iss/">Amazing footage of Earth during a spacewalk on ISS</a> from <a href="http://www.reddit.com/r/SweatyPalms">r/SweatyPalms</a></blockquote>
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Ubeja is not here to see the world's fastest human.

GloryDayz 06-03-2020 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 15002612)
Cool to see one of these come back with the NASA logo on it.

https://i.redd.it/obzolyyhgl251.jpg

Yes it is.

Donger 06-03-2020 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 15002612)
Cool to see one of these come back with the NASA logo on it.

https://i.redd.it/obzolyyhgl251.jpg

Yes, very cool. And you can see the octagrabber.

chefsos 06-03-2020 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 15002612)
Cool to see one of these come back with the NASA logo on it.

https://i.redd.it/obzolyyhgl251.jpg

The humans at the base of it add a scale that I sometimes forget when watching these things gently set down. They just don't appear that big.

DaFace 06-03-2020 10:39 AM

Unlurking mentioned it, but there's a Starlink launch tonight at 9:25pm EST if anyone's interested. Not quite as exciting as manned launches, but rockets are always fun.

Scooter LaCanforno 06-03-2020 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 15003165)
Unlurking mentioned it, but there's a Starlink launch tonight at 9:25pm EST if anyone's interested. Not quite as exciting as manned launches, but rockets are always fun.


Very Cloudy with 40% rain. Hope it clears up. Night launches are always worth watching. If you have good eyesight you can actually see the moment it reaches space.

Fish 06-03-2020 05:56 PM

Humans, for scale...

<blockquote class="reddit-card" data-card-created="1591228559"><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/space/comments/gw2l76/its_hard_to_fathom_the_scale_of_the_falcon_9_that/">It’s hard to fathom the scale of the Falcon 9 that launched humans to space last weekend until you see people working on the booster!</a> from <a href="http://www.reddit.com/r/space">r/space</a></blockquote>
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DaFace 06-03-2020 06:04 PM

If any of you find yourselves in LA with some time to spare, it's worth it to drop by SpaceX and check out the booster there. Here it is with my wife for scale. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...51f3efeb04.jpg

Kman34 06-03-2020 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 15004030)
If any of you find yourselves in LA with some time to spare, it's worth it to drop by SpaceX and check out the booster there. Here it is with my wife for scale. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...51f3efeb04.jpg

Dude... I like you so I'm not going to... :LOL:

MagicHef 06-03-2020 08:03 PM

Drone ship feed didn’t cut out during landing. I wonder if they’ve made an upgrade.

DaFace 06-03-2020 09:05 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">SpaceX has been given NASA approval to fly flight-proven Falcon 9 and Crew Dragon vehicles during Commercial Crew flights starting with Post-Certification Mission 2, per a modification to SpaceX&#39;s contract with NASA.<a href="https://t.co/BxHlFqt9sK">https://t.co/BxHlFqt9sK</a> <a href="https://t.co/lRsthoBw8T">pic.twitter.com/lRsthoBw8T</a></p>&mdash; Michael Baylor (@nextspaceflight) <a href="https://twitter.com/nextspaceflight/status/1268316718750814209?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 3, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Kind of crazy when Demo-2 isn't even back yet. Speculation is that Boeing is gonna continue getting delayed, and NASA is wanting SpaceX to fill the void by reusing Dragons (since it's a lot faster to refurbish than it is to build a new one).

Donger 06-05-2020 09:32 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Falcon 9 flew for the first time ten years ago today. Completing 85 missions to date, Falcon 9 is now the most flown operational rocket in the United States. <a href="https://t.co/duuMDuyv7t">pic.twitter.com/duuMDuyv7t</a></p>&mdash; SpaceX (@SpaceX) <a href="https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1268587258380075008?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 4, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

MagicHef 06-05-2020 12:40 PM

Wow

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="und" dir="ltr">Yes</p>&mdash; Elon Musk (@elonmusk) <a href="https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1268780398047137792?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 5, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Donger 06-05-2020 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MagicHef (Post 15007551)
Wow

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="und" dir="ltr">Yes</p>&mdash; Elon Musk (@elonmusk) <a href="https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1268780398047137792?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 5, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

That seems.... rather optimistic.

DaneMcCloud 06-05-2020 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 15007552)
That seems.... rather optimistic.

I don't think he's too off the mark in terms of cargo but a manned mission to Mars in 2024?

Has Space X even built whatever ship is taking the astronauts on their 18 month journey?

Won't they need a ship in orbit and a lander, too?

Donger 06-05-2020 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 15007566)
I don't think he's too off the mark in terms of cargo but a manned mission to Mars in 2024?

Has Space X even built whatever ship is taking the astronauts on their 18 month journey?

Won't they need a ship in orbit and a lander, too?

Well, I presume he's talking about Starship. And those keep blowing up and hasn't even sniffed space.

DaneMcCloud 06-05-2020 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 15007573)
Well, I presume he's talking about Starship. And those keep blowing up and hasn't even sniffed space.

Thanks! Hopefully, they'll have the rocket ready by the end of 2022 but it sure seems like it's going to take much longer before they can send humans to Mars.

I should probably do more research but have NASA and Space X figured out how to protect the astronauts from radiation during the 18 month journey to and from Mars?

Donger 06-05-2020 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 15007585)
Thanks! Hopefully, they'll have the rocket ready by the end of 2022 but it sure seems like it's going to take much longer before they can send humans to Mars.

I should probably do more research but have NASA and Space X figured out how to protect the astronauts from radiation during the 18 month journey to and from Mars?

Musk has a history of being a tad optimistic with timelines.

Last I heard, they are looking at a four month duration to Mars, which will lessen the exposure. And I think I read that they plan to have a shelter for emergencies.

DaFace 06-05-2020 01:04 PM

Gwynne Shotwell is probably a more reasonable gauge of timelines. Here's what she said recently:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Outlook from <a href="https://twitter.com/SpaceX?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@spacex</a>&#39;s Gwynne Shotwell: &quot;We&#39;ve learned so much in the last six years, I&#39;m sure we will have people flying in Starship in less than six years. It would be a major company fail if we&#39;re not flying people in like half that amount of time or less.&quot; -AvWeek interview</p>&mdash; Irene Klotz (@Free_Space) <a href="https://twitter.com/Free_Space/status/1265023077278191616?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 25, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Note that she's just talking about flying (at all). It's hard to imagine Mars being only a couple years away.

But I will say that, once you understand "Elon Time," you get it. He says "we'll do it in 2 years" when everyone else thinks it'll take 10. Then when it's done in 5, it's still a big win.

Donger 06-05-2020 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 15007616)
Gwynne Shotwell is probably a more reasonable gauge of timelines. Here's what she said recently:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Outlook from <a href="https://twitter.com/SpaceX?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@spacex</a>&#39;s Gwynne Shotwell: &quot;We&#39;ve learned so much in the last six years, I&#39;m sure we will have people flying in Starship in less than six years. It would be a major company fail if we&#39;re not flying people in like half that amount of time or less.&quot; -AvWeek interview</p>&mdash; Irene Klotz (@Free_Space) <a href="https://twitter.com/Free_Space/status/1265023077278191616?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 25, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Note that she's just talking about flying (at all). It's hard to imagine Mars being only a couple years away.

But I will say that, once you understand "Elon Time," you get it. He says "we'll do it in 2 years" when everyone else thinks it'll take 10. Then when it's done in 5, it's still a big win.

He stole that from Scotty.

:)

DaneMcCloud 06-05-2020 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 15007596)
Musk has a history of being a tad optimistic with timelines.

Last I heard, they are looking at a four month duration to Mars, which will lessen the exposure. And I think I read that they plan to have a shelter for emergencies.

4 months? Holy cow! That's nearly 31,000 miles per hour.

MagicHef 06-05-2020 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 15007659)
4 months? Holy cow! That's nearly 31,000 miles per hour.

You have to go nearly that fast just to escape the Earth's gravity. Apollo 11 was around 25,000 mph.

treeguy27 06-05-2020 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 15007566)
I don't think he's too off the mark in terms of cargo but a manned mission to Mars in 2024?

Has Space X even built whatever ship is taking the astronauts on their 18 month journey?

Won't they need a ship in orbit and a lander, too?

I'm pretty sure "Starship" is being designed just like the Falcon 9, in that it can use it's engines to descend to the surface and land upright. Then it will take back off vertically to head back.

Donger 06-05-2020 01:55 PM

For those interested. I didn't realize that they were planning on 100% Mars-generated fuel for the return.

https://www.spacex.com/human-spaceflight/mars/

MagicHef 06-05-2020 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 15007784)
For those interested. I didn't realize that they were planning on 100% Mars-generated fuel for the return.

https://www.spacex.com/human-spaceflight/mars/

Yep, that's why the Raptor engine is so important, methane can be made on Mars. The flying water tower last year was the first time ever that a methane full flow staged combustion engine took flight.

BigRedChief 06-05-2020 04:27 PM

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DaneMcCloud 06-05-2020 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef (Post 15007673)
You have to go nearly that fast just to escape the Earth's gravity. Apollo 11 was around 25,000 mph.

Right, and I fully understand the physics of breaking out of the Earth's orbit.

I just had no idea that science and technology are at the point where it's possible to reach Mars in 4 months.

With that being the case, I would imagine that the commute to Mars will take a week or less before the end of this century.

Is interstellar travel that far behind?

Dartgod 06-05-2020 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 15001876)
Florida from the space station

Who are all those people in your back yard?

BigRedChief 06-05-2020 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Dartgod (Post 15008170)
Who are all those people in your back yard?

Mainly Cubans and snowbirds from NY? ;)

Bowser 06-05-2020 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 15008150)
Right, and I fully understand the physics of breaking out of the Earth's orbit.

I just had no idea that science and technology are at the point where it's possible to reach Mars in 4 months.

With that being the case, I would imagine that the commute to Mars will take a week or less before the end of this century.

Is interstellar travel that far behind?

IIRC, someone posted a vid about how we have nearly perfected ion propulsion a while back. I'll see if I can dig the vid up.

Bowser 06-05-2020 05:47 PM

Here you go

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