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ChiefsFan88 06-12-2024 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17550229)
The guy who was born and raised just outside Dallas?

On the highlights, Celtics made a dunk and Mahomes was cheering so I thought he is a Celtics fan but just because Mahomes is born in Texas does not mean he is a Mavericks fan

KC_Connection 06-12-2024 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsFan88 (Post 17550235)
On the highlights, Celtics made a dunk and Mahomes was cheering so I thought he is a Celtics fan but just because Mahomes is born in Texas does not mean he is a Mavericks fan

He’s a Mavs fan.

BWillie 06-13-2024 02:02 AM

Brian Windhorst destroying Luka right now

BigCatDaddy 06-13-2024 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17550257)
Brian Windhorst destroying Luka right now

Meh, Luka will always be a 1 way player and why he will never be in the GOAT talk for anyone with a clue.

PAChiefsGuy 06-13-2024 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17550230)
Needed more LeBron, yeah. Maybe next year they won’t draw the Nuggets.

You're a ****ing weirdo.

chiefzilla1501 06-13-2024 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy (Post 17550222)
This year's playoffs turned out to be pretty awful honestly.. hopefully next year's will be better.

Western conference was awesome. Both of Dallas’ series against okc and Minnesota were spectacular. Minn/den were awesome except way too blowout heavy.

It’s just the eastern conference because those teams aren’t good and injuries were insane. Way way too many superstars got hurt on that side of the house.

KC_Connection 06-13-2024 08:19 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">On June 13, 2019, the Toronto Raptors won their first NBA Title in Franchise history �� <a href="https://t.co/0qbQyAmUbo">pic.twitter.com/0qbQyAmUbo</a></p>&mdash; TSN (@TSN_Sports) <a href="https://twitter.com/TSN_Sports/status/1801244793579671632?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 13, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

A better Finals.

KC_Connection 06-13-2024 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy (Post 17550347)
You're a ****ing weirdo.

I didn't see you in here complaining about the entertainment value of the playoffs when LeBron was more involved. In fact, his presence was frequently the only reason you would post.

PAChiefsGuy 06-13-2024 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 17550370)
Western conference was awesome. Both of Dallas’ series against okc and Minnesota were spectacular. Minn/den were awesome except way too blowout heavy.

It’s just the eastern conference because those teams aren’t good and injuries were insane. Way way too many superstars got hurt on that side of the house.

I'll give you the Thunder series but how you figure Dallas-Minnesota series was awesome? It was basically over before it started when Mavs got a 3-0 lead.

Boring playoffs happens sometimes in all of sports so hopefully just an anomaly. There were some good series for sure so I'm hopeful for the future. Spurs should be back in playoffs soon with Wemby so that should get playoff bball more exciting.

DJ's left nut 06-13-2024 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Gary Cooper (Post 17550155)
I don't believe a team ever swept both the Conference Finals and NBA Finals. This run is historic.

Yeah - it's hard to call picking on mediocre teams 'historic'.

What the Chiefs did was historic; getting through very probably the hardest gauntlet in NFL post-season history.

The Celtics are just treating above average basketball teams like they're above average.

I mean, has Boston played a top 10 team in these playoffs? If they have, it's close. Based on pure ability I'd say you're looking at a couple of teirs:

Boston
OKC, Denver, Minn, NYK
LAC, Phx, Philly (when healthy)
Indy, LAL, Mil, NOLA, Dallas, Cle, Miami

They've maybe knocked off a single top 10 team in this run? The rest are pretty average squads, most of whom weren't anywhere near their best due to injury.

The east was shitty and they got one of the worst teams out of the West in the finals. Minnesota and Denver playing each other prior to the WCF really helped clear the decks for them. OKC stepping on their dicks didn't help either.

Things really couldn't have been any easier for them.

Coogs 06-13-2024 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy (Post 17550222)
This year's playoffs turned out to be pretty awful honestly.. hopefully next year's will be better.

I've actually enjoyed the playoffs this year. Refreshing to have new blood and less Lebron.

PAChiefsGuy 06-13-2024 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 17550547)
I've actually enjoyed the playoffs this year. Refreshing to have new blood and less Lebron.

Glad to hear that man. To each their own.

Bl00dyBizkitz 06-13-2024 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 17550547)
I've actually enjoyed the playoffs this year. Refreshing to have new blood and less Lebron.

No LeBron, KD, or Steph. I love it.

Gary Cooper 06-13-2024 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17550521)
Yeah - it's hard to call picking on mediocre teams 'historic'.

What the Chiefs did was historic; getting through very probably the hardest gauntlet in NFL post-season history.

The Celtics are just treating above average basketball teams like they're above average.

I mean, has Boston played a top 10 team in these playoffs? If they have, it's close. Based on pure ability I'd say you're looking at a couple of teirs:

Boston
OKC, Denver, Minn, NYK
LAC, Phx, Philly (when healthy)
Indy, LAL, Mil, NOLA, Dallas, Cle, Miami

They've maybe knocked off a single top 10 team in this run? The rest are pretty average squads, most of whom weren't anywhere near their best due to injury.

The east was shitty and they got one of the worst teams out of the West in the finals. Minnesota and Denver playing each other prior to the WCF really helped clear the decks for them. OKC stepping on their dicks didn't help either.

Things really couldn't have been any easier for them.

Actually, things could have been easier for them. They could have had Porzingis for the entire playoffs.

The competition wasn't great but they still have a chance to make history tomorrow night and complete sweeps in the final two rounds.

chiefzilla1501 06-13-2024 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy (Post 17550495)
I'll give you the Thunder series but how you figure Dallas-Minnesota series was awesome? It was basically over before it started when Mavs got a 3-0 lead.

Boring playoffs happens sometimes in all of sports so hopefully just an anomaly. There were some good series for sure so I'm hopeful for the future. Spurs should be back in playoffs soon with Wemby so that should get playoff bball more exciting.

I mean, in the final 4 series in the west you had bonafide superstars and a sneak peek at the exciting faces of the future. Jokic, sga, Edwards, Luka. Even if Dallas handled Minnesota it felt evenly matched and many felt if Minnesota won game 5 Minnesota would actually be the favorite of the series.

Despite the outcome I still think Minnesota should’ve handled Dallas.

dirk digler 06-13-2024 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17550257)
Brian Windhorst destroying Luka right now

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Good lord, Brian Windhorst just unloaded the clip on Luka Doncic <a href="https://t.co/nA4TOMLfNA">pic.twitter.com/nA4TOMLfNA</a></p>&mdash; Ahmed/The Ears/IG: BigBizTheGod 🇸🇴 (@big_business_) <a href="https://twitter.com/big_business_/status/1801107149671522429?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 13, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

KC_Connection 06-13-2024 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 17551015)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Good lord, Brian Windhorst just unloaded the clip on Luka Doncic <a href="https://t.co/nA4TOMLfNA">pic.twitter.com/nA4TOMLfNA</a></p>&mdash; Ahmed/The Ears/IG: BigBizTheGod 🇸🇴 (@big_business_) <a href="https://twitter.com/big_business_/status/1801107149671522429?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 13, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Nick Wright says he texted Brian Windhorst after Windy&#39;s viral postgame rant about Luka on ESPN:<br><br>&quot;The table was set for feast on Luka day today in a way that was not fair to his performance or him fouling out.&quot; <a href="https://t.co/oixldtT0Lx">pic.twitter.com/oixldtT0Lx</a></p>&mdash; Awful Announcing (@awfulannouncing) <a href="https://twitter.com/awfulannouncing/status/1801376139757424858?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 13, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Pitt Gorilla 06-13-2024 08:54 PM

Anybody getting excited about the draft?

KC_Connection 06-14-2024 07:48 PM

No sweep in this one.

BigCatDaddy 06-14-2024 07:59 PM

You can't have this bad of a title team doing anything historic. Thank God.

dirk digler 06-14-2024 08:09 PM

The Mavs are finally playing like they did in the WC playoffs.

Pablo 06-14-2024 08:18 PM

I honestly thought this shit was happening tomorrow night. The NBA finals schedule ****s me up every time.

Pablo 06-14-2024 08:19 PM

Glad to see these beantown beansucking bundle of sticksgots don't get the sweep though.

KC_Connection 06-14-2024 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 17552347)
I honestly thought this shit was happening tomorrow night. The NBA finals schedule ****s me up every time.

And now, for whatever reason, they're skipping Sunday night to play on Monday in game 5.

Pablo 06-14-2024 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17552368)
And now, for whatever reason, they're skipping Sunday night to play on Monday in game 5.

What a cool league that makes a lot of sense

KC_Connection 06-14-2024 09:59 PM

Barkley says on NBA TV that he's retiring after next season from TV.

KC_Connection 06-14-2024 10:03 PM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GQFgzzzW...jpg&name=small

BWillie 06-14-2024 10:42 PM

Best case scenario. For some dumb reason Luka played 33 minutes.

ChiefsCountry 06-15-2024 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17552368)
And now, for whatever reason, they're skipping Sunday night to play on Monday in game 5.

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Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 17552388)
What a cool league that makes a lot of sense

Travel day and then normal day between. Put in place if it was one of the long trips like LA or Bay Area to Boston etc.

Pasta Little Brioni 06-15-2024 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 17552483)
Travel day and then normal day between. Put in place if it was one of the long trips like LA or Bay Area to Boston etc.

Lame aa ****

Pasta Little Brioni 06-15-2024 05:13 AM

"Roundball rock" jfc I liked it a lot better before you started calling it by that. Round...ball...rock damn it

chiefzilla1501 06-15-2024 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17552368)
And now, for whatever reason, they're skipping Sunday night to play on Monday in game 5.

Good. Its the finals. Fresher teams are more fun to watch than tired ones.

PunkinDrublic 06-15-2024 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 17552342)
The Mavs are finally playing like they did in the WC playoffs.

Mavs role players were finally stepping up. Hopefully they can extend this series as much as possible to at the very least get some experience under their belts.

smithandrew051 06-15-2024 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by PunkinDrublic (Post 17552550)
Mavs role players were finally stepping up. Hopefully they can extend this series as much as possible to at the very least get some experience under their belts.

I don’t think it will happen, but this series gets really interesting if the Mavs win Game 5.

chiefzilla1501 06-15-2024 07:29 AM

The big difference to me was Luka at least trying to play defense. It helped in game 3 if not for all the fouls. Think he took the windhorst dig to heart. Still bad defense but he just needs to try a little bit to go a long way.

BigCatDaddy 06-15-2024 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17552438)
Barkley says on NBA TV that he's retiring after next season from TV.

That will be the biggest loss to the NBA since Jordan retired from the Bulls.

BigCatDaddy 06-15-2024 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17552467)
Best case scenario. For some dumb reason Luka played 33 minutes.

Man, when Boston subbed the starters out and I looked up and saw 4 white guys on the court for them my first thought was BWillie must be losing his shit LMAO

lcarus 06-15-2024 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17552554)
I don’t think it will happen, but this series gets really interesting if the Mavs win Game 5.

Someone will pull off the 0-3 comeback one day.

It probably won't be this series though. As of now, I'm convinced the Celtics just wanted to win it on their home court. But yeah like you said if the Mavs win game 5 it gets interesting. Pretty lame that game 5 isn't until Monday.

PunkinDrublic 06-15-2024 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17552438)
Barkley says on NBA TV that he's retiring after next season from TV.

And unfortunately that no-talent diversity hire Doris Burke will continue to annoy fans with her idiotic commentary. Good lord she is horrible.

tredadda 06-15-2024 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17552554)
I don’t think it will happen, but this series gets really interesting if the Mavs win Game 5.

Agreed. I don’t think Boston wants to go back to Dallas for a game 6. If they do, the pressure to win grows and I could see them losing the series.

Hammock Parties 06-17-2024 01:27 PM

This is the only time I've liked Wildes. LMAO

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">���� a gentlemanly open for a gentleman&#39;s sweep, <a href="https://twitter.com/kevinwildes?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@kevinwildes</a>?<br><br>������ <a href="https://twitter.com/getnickwright?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@getnickwright</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/Chris_Broussard?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Chris_Broussard</a> <a href="https://t.co/vHMJIQEpKI">pic.twitter.com/vHMJIQEpKI</a></p>&mdash; First Things First (@FTFonFS1) <a href="https://twitter.com/FTFonFS1/status/1802782042121224226?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 17, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

BWillie 06-17-2024 06:41 PM

Fat Slov goin down tonight. Guarantee you once game in hand he will like around like a bitch.

KC_Connection 06-17-2024 06:46 PM

Celtics hacking and getting away with it at home as usual. Disgusting.

Gary Cooper 06-17-2024 06:53 PM

Why play Porzingis tonight instead of game 6 and 7? When he gets re-injured tonight, you're less likely to have him the remainder of the series.

Gravedigger 06-17-2024 07:09 PM

Well… at least the Mavs won one game.

KC_Connection 06-17-2024 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary Cooper (Post 17555086)
Why play Porzingis tonight instead of game 6 and 7? When he gets re-injured tonight, you're less likely to have him the remainder of the series.

Porzingis is hurting them more than helping them while he's out there anyway. Dallas takes advantage of him defensively every single time.

KC_Connection 06-17-2024 07:12 PM

Becoming obvious that Kyrie just can't play in this building.

Gary Cooper 06-17-2024 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17555105)
Porzingis is hurting them more than helping them while he's out there anyway. Dallas takes advantage of him defensively every single time.

That's another reason. He's not moving well. I would save him for later games, if necessary when all hands are on deck. Get him more rest.

chiefzilla1501 06-17-2024 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17555106)
Becoming obvious that Kyrie just can't play in this building.

Yeah he’s seeing ghosts out there.

KC_Connection 06-17-2024 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary Cooper (Post 17555111)
That's another reason. He's not moving well. I would save him for later games, if necessary when all hands are on deck. Get him more rest.

I was surprised to see him out there for this one, that's for sure.

KC_Connection 06-17-2024 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 17555114)
Yeah he’s seeing ghosts out there.

Some guys just don't respond well to this kind of booing/negativity and he appears to be one of them. True superstars handle it though.

PunkinDrublic 06-17-2024 07:27 PM

If you contest Tatum on a drive it’s a foul. These refs suck dick!

KC_Connection 06-17-2024 07:32 PM

Refs calling phantom travels now to prevent Dallas baskets.

KC_Connection 06-17-2024 07:35 PM

Where's the intensity from Luka and Kyrie here? This is a Finals elimination game, right?

KCUnited 06-17-2024 07:37 PM

Is that Kyrie or Dak out there

tredadda 06-17-2024 07:41 PM

When shots like that fall it’s clear that this is not Dallas’ night.

BWillie 06-17-2024 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 17555128)
When shots like that fall it’s clear that this is not Dallas’ night.

It wasn't Dallas's year. They were a 5-seed. It's unfortunate they got this far and ruined our chance of a competitive NBA Finals.

PunkinDrublic 06-17-2024 07:42 PM

Luka can’t hit the free throw but that little pillowbiter Pritchard hits his second desperation heave of the series. JFC!

KC_Connection 06-17-2024 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17555129)
It wasn't Dallas's year. They were a 5-seed. It's unfortunate they got this far and ruined our chance of a competitive NBA Finals.

The only team that was gonna make this a competitive NBA Finals was the Denver Nuggets and you'd have absolutely hated that anyway with Jokic torching them.

BWillie 06-17-2024 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17555132)
The only team that was gonna make this a competitive NBA Finals was the Denver Nuggets and you'd have absolutely hated that anyway with Jokic torching them.

Nonsense. T'Wolves and OKC would have been a fine draw.

tredadda 06-17-2024 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17555132)
The only team that was gonna make this a competitive NBA Finals was the Denver Nuggets and you'd have absolutely hated that anyway with Jokic torching them.

I have to agree that Denver might have been the best chance at preventing Boston from getting championship 18.

KC_Connection 06-17-2024 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17555136)
Nonsense. T'Wolves and OKC would have been a fine draw.

What was SGA gonna do? Play 1 on 5 and lose like he did against the Mavs? You've seen how that worked out for Luka this series without any help.

And no team with Rudy or KAT is gonna win when it really counts.

tredadda 06-17-2024 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17555136)
Nonsense. T'Wolves and OKC would have been a fine draw.

T’Wolves? They were Anthony Edward’s and that’s about it. OKC is about a year away right now.

tredadda 06-17-2024 08:05 PM

This series is just about done. Boston could probably just shoot 3’s the rest of the game and still win by double digits.

BWillie 06-17-2024 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 17555140)
T’Wolves? They were Anthony Edward’s and that’s about it. OKC is about a year away right now.

They won a ton of games. Just young. OKC and TWolves are the teams to beat next year. This was their feeling it out year. The West is ****ed moving forward. Luka better get some help.

smithandrew051 06-17-2024 08:12 PM

This Boston team is probably one of my least favorite NBA Champs of my lifetime.

I didn’t like the Durant Warriors, but I could at least appreciate that team’s place in history.

This just feels like a really good team against a bunch of average playoff teams.

KC_Connection 06-17-2024 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17555150)
They won a ton of games. Just young. OKC and TWolves are the teams to beat next year. This was their feeling it out year. The West is ****ed moving forward. Luka better get some help.

Jokic going somewhere next season?

BWillie 06-17-2024 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17555155)
Jokic going somewhere next season?

Can only do so much with a big man.

KC_Connection 06-17-2024 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17555157)
Can only do so much with a big man.

Like win a NBA title yeah

staylor26 06-17-2024 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17555157)
Can only do so much with a big man.

Holy **** you're dumb.

KC_Connection 06-17-2024 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17555154)
This Boston team is probably one of my least favorite NBA Champs of my lifetime.

I didn’t like the Durant Warriors, but I could at least appreciate that team’s place in history.

This just feels like a really good team against a bunch of average playoff teams.

Boston's really good but I think the disappointing thing is that we never got to see them test their mettle against an elite team that could have matched them on both ends (Dallas' defense is getting picked apart and has been all series). With their track record in big games, they might have folded in that scenario but we'll never know now.

Gary Cooper 06-17-2024 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17555154)
This Boston team is probably one of my least favorite NBA Champs of my lifetime.

I didn’t like the Durant Warriors, but I could at least appreciate that team’s place in history.

This just feels like a really good team against a bunch of average playoff teams.

They were fortunate to play against Miami without Butler the entire series, Cleveland without Mitchell for the back half, and the Pacers without Haliburton the last few games.

They probably still win those series, but not as easily and would be a more tired group.

Then again, they didn't have Porzingis for most of the playoffs.

chiefzilla1501 06-17-2024 08:29 PM

Some 16 year old kid in Boston posted about how he’s seen 11 parades. I know it’s not his fault but that’s so punchable. There are going to be college kids in Boston who may have never seen a year that didn’t feature a deep playoff team.

And yet they’ll still find a way to play victim like they have some huge chip on their shoulder.

It’s so disappointing knowing they have yet another team that will be relevant for a while. **** this sports market.

dirk digler 06-17-2024 08:48 PM

Dallas needs to find another scorer in the offseason.

Happy for Hoford at least. He has been a solid player his entire career.

KC_Connection 06-17-2024 08:54 PM

Mazzula challenging with 2 minutes left in a 20+ point game, yeah sounds about right

KC_Connection 06-17-2024 08:58 PM

Worst Finals since KD ruined the NBA for a couple years in joining a 73 win team. Disgusting result.

PunkinDrublic 06-17-2024 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 17555197)
Dallas needs to find another scorer in the offseason.

Happy for Hoford at least. He has been a solid player his entire career.

Sucks to see it come to an end but even if Luka and Kyrie play better, you’re not going to beat a team that’s shooting the ball like Boston is. Still a huge accomplishment getting to the finals especially after completely missing the playoffs last year. They took a huge step this year.

chiefzilla1501 06-17-2024 09:01 PM

I’ll say it again, nba needs to fix scheduling. Way way too many superstars playing gladiator by the end of the playoff run. Luka looked sluggish the entire night.

KC_Connection 06-17-2024 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 17555211)
I’ll say it again, nba needs to fix scheduling. Way way too many superstars playing gladiator by the end of the playoff run. Luka looked sluggish the entire night.

Carrying the entire offense for two months just about every possession will have that effect (unless you're prime LeBron). Needed more help to help lighten the load and it was nowhere to be found.

KC_Connection 06-17-2024 09:17 PM

At least Tatum didn't get an undeserving MVP and it went to Brown.


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