I hear what you are saying, but at 1-4 in Championship games, Rodgers can STFU.

Not sure I recall all the details, but wasn't the Favre/Rodgers thing similar?

Yes and no, Favre got pushed out because he kept telling them he didn't know if he was going to retire or comeback and it just turned into a ****ing show. Then Rodgers told Ted Thompson if Favre came back he was leaving to go play elsewhere. Thompson didn't want to just lose Rodgers so he chose to deal Favre instead.

This one is more that Rodgers and Guntekunst have had an ongoing feud almost since the day he was hired. A lot of it comes down to that Gute doesn't care that Rodgers is a franchise player, doesn't care what he wants etc etc. So he's busy blowing picks on shitty defensive players and not signing anyone while he expects Rodgers to just carry the offense.

The biggest reason this shit happened 2 times in a row is because GB doesn't have an owner. A GM there doesn't really have anyone to answer to, like here for example Clark would never in a million years let a GM just take a dump on the franchise QB.

That would never happen because we actually have an owner unlike the Packers

It'll be really funny though when Jordan Love bombs and they win 3 games.

They treated Rodgers like they treated Favre.

Rodger's post season record blows because his arm is wasted from throwing people under the bus all season

Wait, why are we pretending Rodgers just wanted the same relationship the Chiefs and Mahomes have? Because it's a complete bullshit narrative driven by Rodgers. Rodgers wanted Gute to do want Rodgers wanted and Gute is under no obligation to oblige him.

I think most people would acknowledge that doing nothing but drafting shitty defensive players in the 1st round when you have a need for weapons is odd. Also I think dude just wanted to have some input on what he'd like to play with. Basically all franchise QB's get that, he was basically told he's just another player nothing more.

I mean cmon now, they managed to hit on Davante Adams in the second but other than that they expected Rodgers to make it work with 3rd day draft picks.

We're gonna take defensive players with our 1st pick 6 years in a row! The one that isn't will be a QB...then we'll turn around and you know what take even more defensive players! All the while having a defense that never gets any better..

I'll go back to 18 since that is when dude was promoted to GM.

First 2 round picks each year

18
Jaire Alexander
Josh Jackson

19
Rashan Gary
Dantrell Savage
Elgton Jekins

20
Jordan Love
AJ Dillon

21
Eric Stokes
Josh Myers

22
Quay Walker
Devonte Wyatt
Christian Watson

23
Lukas Van Ness
Luke Musgrave
Jayden Reed

That is a shit ton of defensive players for a defense that still isn't good.

Rodgers' only Super Bowl win come with a top five defense.

If you look at their stats, I'd take Favre over Rodgers on the football field. You get the interceptions, but Favre is leading in some key categories.

I really don't get what you're trying to prove there, especially given the Packers had Rodgers, Adams, Bahktari, and Jones locked up long term.

1. There's actually some legitimate defensive talent there

2. There's also decent investment into the offensive side of the ball

Sure, there's a couple glaring misses but that's every GMs draft profile ever. Nowhere near enough to justify the constant shit Rodgers throws his way all because Gute didn't bother letting him know they were going elsewhere at QB

Seriously, what would telling him have even achieved. He would've still been just as petulant and petty about it. If he wanted a better relationship with Gute, maybe don't come at him with salt and vinegar energy.

I still don't get how he's the asshole for expecting what other QBs in his spot get?

Yeah, you're still running with that narrative, and it's still bullshit. Rodgers coming into the office and being petulant that the Packers aren't signing or retaining his washed up buddies (which he explicitly admitted to during one of his McAfee appearances) is incomparable to the productive and positive relationship the Chiefs and Mahomes have.

If Rodgers wanted a relationship like that, it's kind.of a two way thing. And no, the Jets catering to his every whim to appease him is not what other QBs in his spot get. It's an organization in desperation mode trying to keep a known brat happy.

As many 1st/2nd round picks as they used on defense, you'd really think GB's defense would've been consistently better than it's been over the last 5-6 years. Maybe that's coaching more than talent available, idk. Whatever, that defense really never rose to the level of their drafts.


But you'd think that they'd have wanted to draft a WR in the 1st round at some point.

I think part of the problem is that he's just an asshole to begin with.

Certainly not the only celebrity athlete in that category, but it makes things harder.

For having thirty years of Favre/Rodgers HOF QB, GB doesn't have as much to show for it as they probably should.

No doubt they could have drafted better. But drafting a QB in the first round really seemed to light a fire in Rodgers. I don't know if he has the season he did otherwise.