Counterpoints here:
- Our roster is super talented, and deep in key spots
- We can hopefully snag some ring-chasers in FA on a discount or creative contract structure.
- We are getting 2 mid-round comp picks in addition to our regular picks (minus a 6th)
- If EB leaves, we get another 3rd this year and next
- Veach will ball out with the UDFA's again, and they'll want to come here

If there's a stud we want, and Veach puts his nuts on the table for him, I wouldn't be shocked to see us make some moves.

- Our roster is full of journeymen and potential free agents that need to be replaced. It's woefully thin at DE, possibly the most important position other than QB and is not deep at all at WR, which is the easiest way to protect Mahomes. And then there's the line, which needs as many as 3 new starters if not this year then the next.

- The cap isn't going to go up this year. Even with guys on discounts, the Chiefs are going to struggle to hit $195M. If the doomsday reports of $175M come true, the Chiefs will be in really bad shape.

- From what I've seen, we can expect a 4th and a 5th or 6th for comp picks. Not really premium picks by any means.

- It will take a lot more than an extra 3rd to move up to the middle of round one.

- No team balls out on UDFA's every year. I have every faith in Veach but nobody is perfect. We can't plan on this being the norm, we have to plan like it isn't and reap the benefits when it happens.

Moving up to 15-20 would require them to be 100 percent sure it was a can’t miss player who makes them dominant somewhere. I don’t think we’ll see it. But if we did it would say a lot about their evaluation of said player.

Moving up in the second? That I COULD see if Bienemy gets the Texans job. That pick plus a 5th next year is about right to move up to the middle of the second round.

The logic of drafting OT in the 1st.
 

What happened to the logic of drafting BPA in the 1st? The Chiefs are already set at the superstar positions that guarantee 10-12 wins per season minimum. No need to fixate on a specific position at 32- just select the best player with some small consideration given to position (no K, nor P).

Unless an amazing OT just happens to be there at 32, we aren't drafting an OL at 32.

End thread.

The Chiefs must have liked what they saw on the Practice Squad from Wanogho

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Guy needs to eat a ton of twinkies. Not near big enough.

He's 6'5" 309 pounds. How is that "not near big enough"

This is some good news. I remember him coming out. He had 1st round ability back in Auburn. He was inconsistent if I remember the knocks on him. Franchise LT (at only 23) was his ceiling though....

He's a tackle. Our tackles are slightly undersized, at about 320. Typical WCO OTs. Check out Trent Brown. Or some of the tackles for the best OLs. Hell, KO is huge (335) compared to most of the guys on our OL.

He could use a few cheeseburgers is all I'm saying. About 15-20 lbs. worth.

Bahktari is 6'4 310
Conklin is 6'6 308

Both All Pros this year.

He's perfectly fine where he's at.

Trent Brown is about the ****ing last person I want my OL modeling their size after. He ballooned to almost 400 lbs this Offseason and seems to spend most of his time milking injuries instead of playing out of laziness.

in a world where half of the teams in the NFL run a 3-4, and even most 4-3 ends are like 260? Nah.

Never actually advocated bringing Brown to KC, so not sure what your issue is. But the fact remains that he's huge, and when healthy he's basically a stone wall at tackle. Hell, Schwartz is about 325-330?


Denver Broncos' linebacker and Super Bowl MVP Von Miller said, "I feel like Trent Brown has a very bright future in the National Football League. He's 6-foot-8. He knows how to use his arms, knows how to use his wingspan and he has length. So I feel like he's young and people haven’t really seen him, but I feel like he’s one of the better tackles in the National Football League."[10][11][12] On August 16, 2017, Miller made a similar remark about Brown to the San Francisco Chronicle after the Broncos and 49ers had a joint practice, stating,

"He's the best right tackle in the National Football League! And he may even be a top-five tackle, period, in the National Football League. There’s not another tackle who’s that tall, that big and can move the way he moves.”

Brown started all 16 regular season games for the 49ers in 2016.

After playing right tackle during his tenure with the 49ers, Brown became the Patriots starting left tackle in 2018, starting all 16 games. With Brown, the Patriots reached and went on to win Super Bowl LIII.

In his first 11 games with the Raiders, Brown allowed only one sack in 326 pass-blocking snaps. On December 17, 2019, Brown was named a Pro Bowl selection for the first time of his career.

Bottom line, bigger=harder to get around and tougher to set the edge against. Be nice to be able to run off-tackle consistently and have enough beef on the edge to keep the TJ Watt's of the world off our 500 million dollar QB.

Just a thought.

I think the key there is being able to move. at 6'8" with long arms, yeah, you can carry 330 well. I think it's the length and the strength more than the actual scale weight at a certain point.

Yeah, the problem is he's rarely healty and it's not a stretch to say it mostly stems from him being too big.

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Just putting on weight really doesn't make that much of a difference, and can actually be a major hindrance in some cases.

anyway, back to the OP-

In Veach I trust.

But I will say this- the idea of taking an OT at #32 somehow being a 'reach' isn't true I don't think. Unless all the mocks are wrong, there are some quality OT's that should be available in that range. So taking one wouldn't be a "reach".

Also, we've seen Veach "reach" according to experts before, and be right.

So you know. In Veach I trust.

Carry on.

Where do I say Prince has to be as big as Brown? I think I specifically said something about "15-20 lbs. bigger." Which would make him about 325-329? About the size of one of the two guys you listed earlier? Hell, he'd be about the same size as Schwartz.

here's the thing: part of the reason our OL gets pushed around by some DLs is that they're smaller. Which should make them more athletic, which Reid likes, I get it, and I don't have a problem with it. But within that, it would be nice if our tackles were just a bit bigger, while still being athletic, like one of those guys you listed, just so they wouldn't get pushed around quite so often, right? Maybe have our Gs eat a few donuts as well (in reality we're talking about muscle mass, but you get the idea). We're talking about 15-20 lbs. Maybe with that extra size and sheer momentum they open a few more holes per game, hold off a few more pass rushes. You know, make things a little bit easier for Patrick. a couple less snaps where he's forced to run for his life. A couple more snaps where CEH gets 2-3 yards instead of zero or minus 1.

And all just by stacking on a few more pounds of meat. Instead of having to go find a brand new T in the draft that may or may not turn out to be worth the pick.

Came to this idea after watching KO literally knocking defenders backwards early this season. "Wow, what a difference 20 lbs. can make" . . .

Have you read some scouting reports on Prince? ALOT of them have the words: "he shouldn't be able to move like this at his size" He came here to play basketball and found football instead. He had the lazy tag coming out or he would've gone in the 1st in a very good tackle class.

IDK if he's lazy or not but being w/ the champs who have shown an ability to get the most out of "scrubish" players has to be night and day from the Eagles. To your point, he probably could stand to add some weight. I don't know if 15-20 is needed but adding some lbs to his base wouldn't hurt.

May have. Don't recall now. But the "basketball" thing seems to ring a bell. But adding 15 lbs of muscle to him won't hurt his agility, I think. Just put a little more sand in his ass.

BPA has to take into account value.

Drafting a guard or LB at 32 when there's an equivalent DE or WR available is just throwing away draft capital.

The NFL is all about matchups. Playmakers create favorable matchups.

Priority should always be on playmakers first.

The two mocks I've seen (one was by Kiper, i think) show KC taking either a WR or a DE at 32. I would actually be kind of interested to see what Kohlmann thinks.

Taking an OT that is already on their board and is slotted at 32 is not a reach.

Taking an OT that wasn't on their board and/or is slotted way later than 32 is.

That's the point - not that taking an OT is an automatic reach but that they shouldn't let the Fisher injury change their draft strategy.

Here's a couple. Not saying that he's gonna turn out to be as good as these guys let on but still. Good gamble by Bart.

https://walterfootball.com/scoutingr...20pwanogho.php

https://thedraftnetwork.com/player/p...gho/o8dyTWpVhT

My at-this-point-useless prediction: Chiefs go LB. At # 32, they hope to have a shot at guys like Zaven Collins, Joe Ossai (may not fit), Dylan Moses & Pete Werner. JMHO

The Chiefs are in a 5-2 most of the time and they have Gay and Hitchens next year as their starters.

Meh. We’re just blue skying at this point. The reality is there’s a better than even chance that this guy isn’t even on the team by the time camp starts. Or that he never makes it past the practice squad. It’s just something to talk about until the Super Bowl.

That does not preclude them from drafting a linebacker with the 32nd pick. Lots of other factors / potential changes with a lower cap coming. (Ex. Sorenson might not return next year. Cutting Hitchens after next season will result in an $8,500,000 cap savings.) Pretty much everything right now is pure speculation anyway.

It absolutely SHOULD.

Drafting a LB in the 1st round is terrible value. Even if they needed LB's, it's terrible value.

LB is one of the least valuable positions on the field.

Wouldn't you say drafting a RB in the first is poor value as well?

While I don't think you have to push it to the top of the draft board, I also don't think you can just say it won't change their strategy at all. It clearly will. Tackle depth was already precariously thin on the roster before Fisher went down, now even more so. If they're able to reach an injury settlement with Fisher and then find someone in FA to compete at LT, then that changes things, so we'll just have to wait and see what happens in FA prior to the draft.

No, especially considering that a 1st round running back is going to see far more snaps than a linebacker in a 5-2.

For example, the Patriots had a 1st round RB when they won the Super Bowl against the Rams in Sony Michel. The Rams had a 1st round running back in Gurley in the 2018 Super Bowl and on and on and on.

Just because some teams might be able to find a running back later in the draft doesn't mean that those teams are going to win a Super Bowl.

There's not a chance in hell that the Chiefs are in the Super Bowl this year with Darrel Williams, DeAndre Washington and Darwin Award Thompson.

Yeah, I would. Leading up to the draft, I would not have drafted CEH.

That being said, I'm far beyond criticizing the stuff that they do so if they decide to take an OL at #32, you won't hear me bitch about it.

I'm not saying it will or won't. I'm saying it SHOULDN'T.

It's not just some teams, it's most if not all teams. The Chiefs won a SB with an UDFA RB leading the way last year.

The Rams with Gurley couldn't get rid of him fast enough when he started breaking down.

The difference between a good and great running back is so small, it's not worth the investment.

I would say yes it was poor value, and its one of the reasons I am not a Veach cheerleader yet. I like CEH, he's a good player but I don't think he would be any more productive for the Chiefs than any of the other RBs taken last year in the 2nd or hell Antonio Gibson went in the 3rd, so did Zack Moss. They all would have been fine in this offense.

I can see the appreciation for Veach in that he did enough to get the in position to win the Superbowl, but he's made several bad moves as well.

If he can navigate the next year or 2 to secure the dynasty without having to blow it up and reset for a year plus, he will go up in my estimation.

Dude, take CEH out of the rookie class and he still knocked it out of the park. Danna, Wharton, Sneed - this past offseason was a home run.

The Rams also spent their first pick last year (though a 2nd) to replace Gurley after using a 3rd in 2018 on Henderson.

I don’t think they’re the best example against drafting a RB high.

Holy shit what a ****ing moron you are.

Veach is the best GM in the NFL and just had one of the best drafts you could possibly hope for picking at the bottom of every round. Every GM has misses. Nobody is perfect. Get a ****ing clue dude.

I agree this last off season was excellent. You didn't even mention Gay and I think he will also be really good next year, I liked what I saw. My statement was based on his whole 3 year body of work across draft, free agency and trade.

The 2020 draft was excellent. The 2018 draft was garbage, the 2019 draft was good. I'm just not as willing to put his dick in my mouth based on one excellent draft. Good for you if you are.

My statement wasn't even specifically just focused on the draft either.

I really like Jalen Mayfield. I think he would be an excellent addition to the World Champion Kansas City Chiefs, my favorite football team.

So, you think the difference between Derrick Henry and Darwin Award Thompson is "so small"?

If so, you and I evaluate talent much differently.

Gurley was drafted in 2015 and led the Rams to the 2018 Super Bowl. I'd say that was worth a 1st round pick.

He also had pretty nice numbers:

2015: 1,294 yards from scrimmage, 10 TD's
2016: 1,212 yards from scrimmage, 6 TD's
2017: 2,093 yards from scrimmage, 19 TD's
2018: 1,831 yards from scrimmage, 21 TD's
2019: 1,064 yards from scrimmage, 14 TD's.

The guy also had well more than 310 touches per season from 2016-2018, so it's not surprising that the wheels fell off in 2020. It's also difficult to overstate that he had 70 Touchdowns in 5 years with the Rams.

Damien Williams has been in the league since 2014 and has a grand total of 22 TD's.

But sure, very little difference between the two running backs.

5 linebackers were taken in the first round last year. The most first round picks of any one position last year was 6. So I guess there are some NFL front offices that would disagree with you. (Including Seattle and Baltimore.)

It doesn't matter what other NFL teams are doing with their personnel, what matters is how the Chiefs use their personnel.

With Spagnuolo, the emphasis is on the Front Five and the Back Four.

The Chiefs are on their way to yet another Super Bowl victory with two 4th rounders in Hitchens and Wilson along with a UDFA in Neimann.

The Chiefs don't value linebackers like other teams. Hitchens and Gay will be the 2021 starters.

I think the Eric Fisher almost has to change their draft strategy. Not only that, it changes the entire offseason strategy IMO.

First, you have a guy that you're looking at probably giving a 4 or 5 year extension and potentially reducing that cap hit this coming offseason. Now, you don't know if the guy will ever play another meaningful down of football.

Sure, Achilles aren't what they "used to be" but the percentage of players that never return still hovers around 25% and of the remainder, there is generally at least the same percentage decrease (25%) in playing time and production in 3 years post-injury.

Point being, this is probably the single most significant injury the Chiefs could have suffered sans Mahomes.

We can say with confidence, Eric Fisher isn't playing effective snaps in 2021 and is scheduled to be a FA in 2022. That's a problem for the front office. We can all hope that he is Jason Peters 2.0 and he returns to the same form and plays to 38 years old at a consistently dominant level, but the chances of that are extremely slim.

Veach's MO to this point has largely been to draft to replace FA departures in the next offseason. The important FAs in 2022 are Fisher, Schwartz, Mathieu, Nnadi, Duvernay-Tardif, and Damien Williams. If we operate under the assumption that Niang develops into the RT replacement for Schwartz and that Veach extends Mathieu (he's so critical to what they do on defense), then you still have LT, DT, RG, and RB2 as keys. That's to go along with other needs like DE, WR, and OC that weren't addressed well enough in 2020.

If we're looking at positional to round value, LT and DE are going to need to be high picks if we expect reasonable performance.

I don't think Veach is going to play a guessing game at LT with a generational QB to protect.

It's a bit of a weird year at LT but I think your top 5 are a Sewell, Darrisaw, Vera Tucker, Leatherwood, and Mayfield as prospects. Where they go though, is hard to pinpoint. I've seen Mayfield late in 1 or early 2 alot in draft mocks. We'll have to see how it shakes out, but I have to think if one of those guys is there at 32, then Veach is pulling the trigger.

I stand by my response to O.City’s comments, which were not specific to the Chiefs.

We’ll have to agree to disagree on how the Chiefs value linebackers. They paid a lot of money for Hitchens. He was the sixth highest paid player on the roster last year. As of right now, he will be the seventh highest paid player on the roster in 2021. We’ll see what happens in the next two years. I would not be surprised if the Chiefs did not draft a linebacker in the first round. All else being equal, odds are against it. But I do think that several dynamics on the defense MIGHT lead them down that path this April. That and the potential LB quality that may be available at that pick. Only time will tell, but I’ll call LB now. I’m sure someone will remind me in April, should I be wrong. :)

I'd wager there is a zero percent chance Veach is drafting a LB in round 1 this year.

You consider Thompson to be a good running back?

I said the difference between good and great. Not great and average.

That’s good numbers. It still was a shitty draft pick.

Running backs are easily found and easily replaced. Don’t draft them in the first round

So, you think that the Rams would have won the NFC in 2018 without Gurley?

What are you smoking?

If they're so easy to find, why the did the Chiefs running game suck ass in 2019?

If they're so easy to find, why did the Chiefs need to draft a running back in the first round this year?

If they're so easy to find, why does any team bother paying their running back after their contracts expire?

This is a really dopey narrative that's just spun out of control on Chiefsplanet. Sure, teams can hit on guys in the 2nd and 3rd rounds but there's generally a reason as to why running backs that are drafted from the 4th-7th generally don't do dick in the NFL.

And while there have been a few undrafted guys that will play well for a year or two, the reason why they went undrafted usually rears its ugly head sooner rather than later.

This is almost as bad as you saying that if Mahomes needed to sit for year, you wouldn't spend anything more than a 3rd rounder on him.

If you're in the top 15 and can draft a blue chip prospect, that's one thing. After those guys, the value of LB drops off DRAMATICALLY.

You have to look at positional value versus draft slot.

I totally understand the philosophy of not taking a RB early is the 1st.

But this idea that you can’t/shouldn’t do it late in the 1st is silly. There’s a huge difference between taking a RB in the top 15 and taking one anywhere from 20-32.

For instance, there’s no reason Najee Harris should make it out of the 1st. He’s a top 15 talent, and teams like the Dolphins and Steelers should definitely have him high on their list for those picks.

Exactly. It's the inverse of LB.

The running game was good enough to win a super bowl.

They didn’t need to draft one in the first round.

There are running backs in the 2nd and third round every single year man. Good ones. Take one there, play him for four years and find another one.

The position takes such a beating they break down quick and the value just isn’t there.

And I don’t remember saying that about Mahomes but I’ve been wrong before probably will be again

Their leading rusher in the playoffs was cj Anderson who they plucked off the street

The end of the first round is atleast tolerable in that you get 5 cheap years.

But you could get 5 cheap years of a more valuable position as well.

No, it was not. Damien Williams hasn't been healthy for a full 16 game season, EVER. And he opted out AFTER the draft.

There is absolutely no way the Chiefs would be heading to the Super Bowl without CEH.

If you're picking at #64, you're taking a huge risk that the guy that fits your system just isn't there. So then what? What until the 4th, 5th or 6th and hope that the running back drafted can stay healthy and fit the system?

That's a shitty approach to management. The best managers are PROACTIVE, not reactive, and sitting around thinking you can get a guy later is a recipe for disaster.

The value is most certainly "there". The Chiefs wouldn't be headed to the Super Bowl without CEH, the Rams wouldn't have been in the Super Bowl without Gurley, the Patriots wouldn't have been in the Super Bowl without Sony Michel and so on.

The Bills have tried the "Budget Running Back" deal for the past two years. The result? They can't run the ****ing football and they're sitting at home on February 7th.

I can pull up the post if you'd like :p

I think that's because Gurley had a bone-on-bone knee but regardless, you can't just discount 70 TD's in 5 years.

Jamal Charles had 64 in 11 years.

Ravens & Patrick Queen might disagree with you.

I'm not sure what point you think that proves, Queen has been pretty bad this year. The Ravens also needed a starting linebacker, the Chiefs don't.

They also run most of their defensive snaps out of alignments that have 3-4 LB on the field at a time.

The Chiefs run most of their snaps from nickel or dime alignments.

Chargem beat me to it but we got a similar quality of production out of Willie Gay a full round later than Queen.

He was terrible and the only advantage he has over Gay right now is that he got more snaps, which I would argue might not be a good thing. You don't just shove a raw guy out there and let him learn in a live fire situation.

Things will be changing fast in the off-season. Especially with the impending reduction in salary cap. Time will tell.

Dude, they have 2 injured offensive tackles, zero bodies at DE opposite Clark, two WR's that could be leaving via free agency, and a center that is a free agent.

They just drafted a LB in the 2nd and they have 2 guys they like under contract.

They're not drafting a LB high in the draft, if at all.

Adding onto what htismage said, Sorensen is also a scheduled FA and a 3rd safety is FAR more important to the defense that Spags runs than a 3rd LB is. I can't fathom a LB selection before the 5th, to be honest.

I think Dirty Dan will be back. Limitations and all, they really seem to like him.

Needs will be OL, DE and WR in no particular order

Now Fisher is injured I think we need to get at least one veteran OL player next year.

We rely on the draft we could have a very inexperienced OL next year.

One thing to keep in mind also-

In a second straight offseason of chaos due to covid, The Chiefs will be returning their entire coaching staff after a Super Bowl season, and schemes are very much set.

A lot of guys shoot up draft boards because they fit in any scheme. That doesn't necessarily mean they're MORE valuable to any specific scheme, and our schemes on both offense AND defense are VERY specific. This allows Veach to target specific sorts of skillsets to fit specific roles.

Couple that with Andy Reid's willingness and ability to tweak his scheme to make best use of available talent and I fully expect we're going to have another excellent draft while other less organized teams will struggle.

There are receivers, for example, that might fall as far as the end of the third that would be excellent fits for Sammy Watkins' role in this offense. Pass rushers that fit Spags' size and length preferences. Offensive linemen that aren't right for a power rushing scheme but are prototypical for Reid's. It's one of the benefits of doing things differently than everyone else.

And the continuity is very rare in a team that's in two straight Super Bowls.

Take a guy like Nico Collins, WR Michigan. 6'4' 215 and scouting report says he'll likely be a better pro than college player. Might be there as late as the 4th. Attacks the football, huge catch radius, good straight line speed.

If you put him on the field with Hill and Kelce, a defense cannot double him. Mahomes can just back shoulder and jump ball this kid all day and there won't be much you can do about it.

I agree with much of what you said in both posts in terms of value versus skill set and scheme fit. This piece on a big-bodied WR though doesn't really fit the Reid mold. I think if you were talking guys like Anthony Schwartz, Ihmir Smith-Marsette, Marquez Stevenson, and Dazz Newsome in that paragraph, I'd be much inclined to agree. Speedier, shiftier guys that can get uncovered in a hurry rather than the big-bodied jump-ball receivers are what he targets most consistently.

Smith-Marsette is an intriguing prospect. I've seen pretty much every snap he's ever taken and I'm always hesitant to rate Iowa guys too highly. But he's a twitchy player and he would definitely fit this offense. He's got experience running the ball too, which we love to do with speedy WR's.

Yes, except that we have two already.

A bigger body, more physical receiver that you still have to respect downfield (like Watkins when healthy) is the guy that creates the further matchup issue. A guy like Collins (doesn't have to be him, just a bigger, more physical receiver) would feast when teams roll coverage to Hill and Kelce. A bigger, physical receiver like that would be nearly impossible for a corner to effectively cover 1-on-1.

Mocks picking more Tyreek clones are missing the point, I think.

think of it as a bridge between Kelce and Hill.

or, if you like, I also like Amari Rodgers; who while he's not tall, is a thicker body than say, a Hardman. It's a different body type, different skillset.

Most of those guys are 5'11" to 6'0" guys but yeah, I get it. The issue is you're likely not seeing a receiver over 6'1" 205 and 6'1" is more like round 6'0 x/8ths" up. If his bio reads 6'4" 215, then I'd probably cross him off the list. I'm not saying never but the chances are very, very slim. I'd probably not consider guys like Collins, Seth Williams, Sage Surratt, and Simi Fohoko to name a few. There's alot more receivers this year though that fit than don't, which is a good thing for KC.

Agreed.

There are very few big WR’s that I could see this team drafting.

Bateman or Marshall maybe.

After that, there are very few. Though Austin Watkins, Sammy’s cousin, is a guy I could see the Chiefs loving in the middle rounds.

I think Marshall is going to measure in at 6-1.5/6-2. That's about as big a WR as I'd expect to see in KC.

Austin Watkins of UAB is a guy I like in the mid-rounds. He's in that size category, has good speed and snatchy hands, and he's got a pretty diverse route-running history. I could see him picking up responsibilities in this offense quicker than many.

crow makes a good point on KC's scheme. You look at some of those lean OTs like Dillon Radunz, and I can see KC rating them a lot higher than, say, Alex Leatherwood (whose Senior Bowl seems to impressing... the idea that he's a G, not a T, in the NFL).

Watkins, Robinson, and Pringle are all 6-1 and between 203-210 pounds.

Watkins is the fastest of them, but I wouldn't consider any of them quick-twitch types like Tyreek and Hardman are.

We've also brought in some bigger bodied types than those 3 in the past, they just haven't stuck to this point.

I think Reid is interested in creating mismatches, and is always adding new wrinkles so I wouldn't be too hung up on specific heights and weights as being things we wouldn't take so much as what a person's skillset can add.

I've thought that about Leatherwood for a while, honestly.