New episode dropping next week!
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">So our friend <a href="https://twitter.com/christie_dish?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@christie_dish</a> listened to the podcast, <a href="https://twitter.com/HoldingKourt?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@HoldingKourt</a> and after last weeks episode decided to send us this!!! <br><br>BREAKING NEWS FOLKS<br><br>There will be 1 more episode of <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/TigerKing?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#TigerKing</a> on@Netflix <a href="https://t.co/YeRSIlDKTJ">pic.twitter.com/YeRSIlDKTJ</a></p>— Justin Turner (@redturn2) <a href="https://twitter.com/redturn2/status/1246499984658157568?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 4, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> |
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Just finished this today. I got over the craziness pretty quick. I've hung out with Carnies so not much different.
Underneath all of that was a really well done documentary. And my next trip to Vegas is going to involve a tiger cub, an eightball, and a really good time. |
https://www.etonline.com/joe-exotics...episode-144353
Since the world can't get enough Tiger King, it appears Netflix plans on feeding America's appetite. Dillon Passage -- husband of the show's star, Joe Exotic -- spoke with Andy Cohen on his Sirius XM show, Andy Cohen Live, and shed a bit of light on the rumored bonus episode of the megahit documentary series. "It's going to be a live episode, kind of like a reunion," Passage suggested, adding that, "Netflix didn't contact me to be a part of that." When asked if Carole Baskin -- a legal and ideological rival of Exotic -- would be involved, Passage said, "I have no idea." "I only spoke with one of the producers for a little while about it," he said, adding that the episode would be "more like a talent interview." As for Exotic -- whose real name is Joseph Maldonado-Passage -- the former zookeeper is currently incarcerated, and in quarantine, at a federal prison in Fort Worth, Texas. In January, Exotic was sentenced to 22 years in prison after being convicted on an array of charges, including two counts of murder-for-hire and 17 other wildlife violations. Dillon's remarks to Cohen come shortly after Jeff Lowe -- another subject of the documentary -- first teased that another episode was coming to Netflix soon. Lowe shared the news in a Cameo message to Los Angeles Dodgers star Justin Turner, whose wife, Kourtney, spoke about the show on her podcast, Holding Kourt. "Thank you for watching our show... you just wasted seven hours on us. You need a life," Lowe and his wife, Lauren Dropla, joked in the message. "Take care, guys, we love you. Netflix is adding one more episode, [that] will be on next week. We're filming here tomorrow. Take care, stay safe and put your mask on!" |
A spin-off is being made by Investigation Discovery....the train wreck just won't stop. I think this got bigger than anyone thought and everyone has $ in their eyes now.
https://www.nydailynews.com/snyde/ny...7em-story.html Listen up, all you cool cats and kittens. Investigation Discovery thinks there’s more to the Joe Exotic saga than even “Tiger King” unfolded. The network has greenlit a new true crime series called “Investigating the Strange World of Joe Exotic,” which is being promoted as a “sequel” to the Netflix docuseries that captivated the world. Where “Tiger King” attempted to unfurl the mess of the big cat world, “Investigating” will focus instead on the mysteries surrounding Joseph Maldonado-Passage and his rival, Carole Baskin, owner of Big Cat Rescue in Florida and the woman he tried to have killed. Florida sheriff renews search for missing millionaire Don Lewis, featured in ‘Tiger King’ » Among the big questions the series promises to answer is the disappearance of Baskin’s millionaire husband Don Lewis. Lewis, 81, was last seen in August 1997 and rumors have spiraled, fueled by Joe Exotic, that Baskin killed him and fed him to her tigers. The Hillsborough County Sheriff’s Office has recently renewed the investigation into Lewis’ disappearance. Carole Baskin's husband Don Lewis has been missing for more than 20 years. Baskin has denied any involvement. “Don was not easy to live with and like most couples, we had our moments. But I never threatened him and I certainly had nothing to do with his disappearance," she wrote in a blog post after “Tiger King” was released. "When he disappeared, I did everything I could to assist the police. I encouraged them to check out the rumors from Costa Rica, and separately I hired a private investigator.” Florida sheriff reports no ‘credible’ tips in disappearance of ‘Tiger King’ millionaire Don Lewis, but case still open » She also called speculation that she had fed his body through the Big Cat Rescue meat grinder “the most ludicrous of all the lies." “Investigating the Strange World of Joe Exotic" will be told through Exotic’s perspective, ID said. “Viewers are understandably riveted by Netflix’s ‘Tiger King,’ but the millions of true crime fans around the world were left wanting more,” Henry Schleiff, Group President ID, Travel Channel, American Heroes Channel and Destination America, said in a statement. “ID is the perfect place to find the inevitable sequel to this drama – featuring a missing husband, a hit man, and the illegal business of exotic animals. It’s time to let the cat out of the bag and address the lingering questions that viewers demand be answered.” |
David Spade has interviewed the cast.
Rick Kirkham said that in the footage that was lost in the fire, it would show Joe shooting tigers that he disliked and him killing a horse that he agreed to take care off and then he fed the horse to the tigers. |
This show is a cultural thing for sure. Made the Predidential press conference today
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">why are we asking the president about Tiger King???????</p>— Josh Dawsey (@jdawsey1) <a href="https://twitter.com/jdawsey1/status/1248012939895832576?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 8, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> |
Everyone putting in their bids for the casting of the dramatization of this mishegas.
Joe Exotic, though, seems like almost an exact amalgam of Corky St. Clair and Harlan Pepper. <iframe width="772" height="579" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/ILM_7gq9gmU" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe> <iframe width="949" height="534" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/3COpxKYnjPY" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe> |
And John, maybe not in looks but in personality and body language, is 100% pure Keefe
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Serial cheater, tons of money, liked to bury his wealth, no one talks about how he makes it, illegal flight practices, international travel, talk of 'pulling off' a real doozy. . . . Sounds like a guy who traffics in ill-gotten gains, and wouldn't be surprised to find out he got himself in a mess of 'Walter White'-style trouble with some bad hombres without a safety net or security team and got disappeared in a wild way by some folks none of the people in Tiger King have even met. Now Carole's affect is WAAAAY off when talking about him, too much fake laughter and not a lick of solemnity. But it seems more like she knew he was heading out somewhere for a big score that had some high stakes, and she had already made her peace with his mission failure than it seems she was actively involved in his demise. |
And we are all somehow dumber for watching this show.
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Tiger King and I — a Tiger King after show hosted by Joel McHale and featuring brand new interviews with John Reinke, Joshua Dial, John Finlay, Saff, Erik Cowie, Rick Kirkman, and Jeff and Lauren Lowe — will premiere April 12 <a href="https://t.co/8fbbNdaiDA">pic.twitter.com/8fbbNdaiDA</a></p>— Netflix (@netflix) <a href="https://twitter.com/netflix/status/1248355014570999808?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 9, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> |
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Not that it takes away from the entertainment value of the show, but this article claims that it's pretty misleading on the actual nature of the Big Cat world (specifically with regards to Carol Baskin).
https://www.outsideonline.com/241141...vDGqImiGTCH2Vc 'Tiger King' Is a Wild Ride. And Largely Misleading. The hugely popular Netflix docuseries leaves out crucial facts about America's big-cat industry and the people trying to stop it Peter Frick-Wright Apr 9, 2020 Five minutes into the first episode of Netflix’s viral documentary series Tiger King: Murder, Mayhem, and Madness, its codirector, Eric Goode, encounters a newly purchased snow leopard in the back of a van, suffering in the Florida heat. “That set me on this journey to really understand what is going on with people keeping big cats in this country,” Goode says in the series’ only narration. It’s a moment of feline sympathy that launches the show and sends Goode on a five-year quest to document Big Tiger—a cat-sprayed industry of breeders, traffickers, and wealthy narcissists exhibiting wild animals across the United States. The bigger the ego, the bigger the cat. Goode, a somewhat well-known conservationist and entrepreneur, should be a natural fit for this series: he founded the Turtle Conservancy, an environmental nonprofit, in addition to creating and designing several nightclubs and hotels, including the Bowery Hotel in New York City. Unfortunately, Goode brings to Tiger King the intellectual rigor and social responsibility of... a nightclub and hotel developer. Don’t get me wrong, Tiger King is as fun as shootin’ up a stop sign. But the scene with the leopard in the van is the only indication in the five-hour series that anyone behind the camera gives half a litter box about wildlife. Instead, it selectively leaves out information to craft a narrative that entertains at the expense of both the cats and the actual earthbound truth. I’m not a big-cat person. My familiarity with this world comes from the several months I spent last year producing and editing a podcast series called Cat People with reporter Rachel Nuwer. In the series, we explore and try to explain America’s tiger problem, including two episodes that cover much of the same ground as Tiger King. And while Cat People is a work of journalism that goes in a very different direction with the material than the quarantine-fueled supernova of mass entertainment that is Tiger King, the docuseries skims over or entirely leaves out the context viewers need to understand anything tiger related. Tiger King looks at three organizations, each with its own charismatic figurehead. Joe “Exotic” Maldonado-Passage runs the GW Exotic Animal Park in Oklahoma, Bhagavan “Doc” Antle founded The Institute for Greatly Endangered and Rare Species (TIGER) in South Carolina, and Carole Baskin operates Big Cat Rescue in Florida. Tiger King would have you believe that all three facilities and their owners are versions of the same thing—egomaniacs who get off on owning wild animals and then selling that feeling of power and primal connection to the public. The show presents Joe Exotic as honest in his dishonesty, Doc Antle as a con man maintaining plausible deniability, and Carole Baskin as a hypocrite, having fooled her followers (and maybe herself) into believing that she’s somehow different than the other two. It glosses over the fact that her facility is, in most ways, fundamentally different. You know why there are more tigers in captivity than in the wild? Because the general public will pay huge amounts of money to play with a tiny tiger cub for a few minutes. But tigers only stay tiny for a few weeks, so to maintain their supply, breeders like Joe Exotic and Doc Antle, as the series shows, churn out cubs for their petting operations and then unload them when the felines grow up, start chomping on customers, and develop a $10,000-a-year meat habit. What Tiger King largely brushes aside is that Big Cat Rescue, on the other hand, only accepts animals confiscated by law enforcement or from owners who are trying to get rid of them. The series quickly skims over the fact that these cats are almost always adults and that the sanctuary forbids petting—if a staff member or volunteer touches an animal for any reason, they’re fired and never allowed to return. Finally, Big Cat Rescue will only take animals if the owners sign a contract declaring that they’ll never own, or even have a photo taken, with another big cat. If they violate the contract, there are financial penalties. The docuseries doesn’t mention this at all. The Baskins aren’t just rescuing big cats, they’re also working on the problem at its source. The biggest threat to tigers’ survival around the world is habitat loss and poaching. When American diplomats try to push other countries to address their high levels of poaching, however, they’re basically laughed at and told to clean up their own problem first. The Baskins are trying to do exactly that. In 2003, they helped pass a bill making it illegal for owners and breeders to sell big cats as pets across state lines. Then, in 2016, they were part of a collection of environmental groups that convinced the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service to close a loophole that allowed licensees like Joe Exotic and Doc Antle to sell big cats to each other. The Baskins’ latest lobbying effort is a bipartisan piece of legislation called the Big Cat Public Safety Act, which Tiger King briefly mentions before going back to more salacious material. It would ban all cub petting and exotic-animal encounters, including for hybrids like ligers and tiligers, effectively shutting down the mechanism that drives the tiger industry. Instead of making this basic difference clear, the series paints Carole as greedy and manipulative, and it portrays her followers and contributors as having been suckered. Yes, she is uncomfortably cat obsessed. Yes, her organization’s music videos are pretty cringey. And it’s true that no one knows what happened to her second husband, Don Lewis, which Tiger King revels in for a whole episode. But it’s also true that all the fact-checked pieces of journalism about Carole Baskin (and quite a few have been published) end there—no one knows. Tiger King, on the other hand, gives a megaphone to the conjecture that Carole killed her husband and fed him to the tigers. The backlash to that conjecture? It defames her, of course, but it also limits her and her husband’s ability to do big-picture conservation work. It hurts the cats. Carole Baskin Carole Baskin (Photo: Courtesy Netflix) Let’s jump back to the breeders for a second, though, because that’s where Tiger King really drops the ball. The show gives voice to the idea that breeders are helping wildlife by increasing their numbers. “We’re makin’ more of ’em,” Joe says. This is one of the most common arguments you hear from tiger owners and breeders. It’s also intellectually dishonest, and the fact the series does not give anyone a chance to correct it in the documentary is irresponsible. Virtually all privately owned tigers in the U.S. are mutts who do not belong to any of the six distinct subspecies found in the wild and therefore are genetically useless to conservation efforts. The show lets Joe and others suggest that if it looks like a tiger, it must be a tiger, never bothering to point out that that’s not actually the case. Tony the Tiger would do better in the wild. At least he wouldn’t muddy wild genes. These choices add up to a show that becomes propaganda for its own binge-worthy thesis: the whole industry is petty and shallow, to the point that none of these people who have devoted their lives to big cats actually care about animals. It’s good TV. It’s just not true. Goode has stopped doing interviews about Tiger King, but he expressed some regret to Vanity Fair last month that the series wasn’t more focused on the animals. “Netflix is very adept at making binge-worthy television,” he said. Tiger King was supposed to be Blackfish for cats. Goode told his subjects he was making a film focused on environmental problems. He ended up with something that may actually be a step backward for tiger conservation in the United States. |
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Out of all of the main characters of the shoe, Joe Exotic actually might be the least evil. Even though he himself is still evil. He is just out in the open with his ignorance and doesn't hide it.
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No doubt it shows her in a negative light. It’s very possible she’s been somewhat vilified by the show. Jokes and entertainment aside, any Chiefs fan will tell you the downside of buying part and parcel of anything any media sells you. But, before I play “just for Carole” on the world’s smallest violin, I’ll point out that she simply could’ve said “no” to doing the documentary to begin with. And if she was naive enough to buy the whole “Blackfish for big cats” bit, without considering the possibility of getting railroaded, I don’t know what to tell her. Media members and documentary makers have been selling people on ideals and then kicking those same people in the dick for years. Turn down the documentary, stay humble and keep doing the good work(if that’s indeed what’s happening). She saw an opportunity to bury her arch rival(whom, to be fair, probably needed burying)and she went for it. She can’t cry foul now that it’s backfired somewhat on her. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander and all that. Plus, for everyone who thinks she’s a crazy murder, there’s someone who found out about her and her rescue that will donate money. You think she’s during down money from anyone who found out about her via Tiger King? Yeah, me neither. |
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Some questions will finally be answered...<br><br>Find out what really went down when <a href="https://twitter.com/TMZ?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TMZ</a> investigates Tiger King MONDAY at 9/8c. <a href="https://t.co/5YOHi3SznU">pic.twitter.com/5YOHi3SznU</a></p>— FOX (@FOXTV) <a href="https://twitter.com/FOXTV/status/1248353431380787201?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 9, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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The aftershow has dropped. Happy Easter!
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So i finished the series by watching 3 episodes and the follow-up that was dropped last night.
Wow. Apparently, whatever money they all made from the being in the documentary - they spent on teeth! Those were dollars well spent. first - Carole is a delusional nutjob who thinks she's the only one on the planet that is allowed to have tigers in a cage. And she definitely fed her first husband to the tigers or gators. And who knew that tiger cubs was a bigger chick-magnet that Corvettes and jewelry!? One of my favorite guys - Long-haired guy who was a worker for joe - had some of the best lines in the documentary......outdid himself in the wrap-up show that dropped last night. Spoiler, since it only dropped last night:
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This has been out for a week, and the whole Tiger King thing is close to saturated, but I gotta applaud how this clip's choices for the celebrities the characters resemble are both unique and mostly superior to everyone else's
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Enjoyed the follow up. The zoo staff come across as the only non deplorable folks in the whole series. Eric was awesome in his interview and John seems like a genuinely good dude. Saff is cool as well. Wish Rick would invest some in the teeth department but I like him as well.
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OK, I've heard enough about this thing to make me think I'm weird for not wanting to watch it. For some reason it's not grabbing me, but I'm really not in the know about it. My adult kids have seen it and are begging me and my wife to watch. Maybe this weekend, I dunno.
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I've got a day off, no place to be, and started a free trial of Netflix. I'm going in....
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Have had discussions about the show, and that girl (guy) came up, and how she had half her arm gnawed off, and got back to work in 6 days. Told my staff - that's how high the bar has been set folks....gives you perspective on what's worthy of a promotion, eh? :) |
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huge crowds flock to Joe Exotics re-opening this past week. Social Distancing? Whats that??
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I'm not sure I get it.
Is the entire appeal trainwreck television? Because a few episodes in, I cannot for the life of me figure out how this became a national phenomenon. |
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It's not the greatest art, it's not the truest documentary, it's not the most vital story ever told, but it was the right thing for people to consume at that moment. And I mean, entertainers have had moderate success trying to lampoon this kind of ridiculousness [the office, Reno 9-11, Christopher Guest movies, etc], and this here is even more outlandish and mostly real, . . it's an easy sell to a quarantined populace. |
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Most of my caseload has been in OK for the last 6-8 years and I've probably spent 100+ days out there over the last decade. So maybe it's just being numb to the whole rural Oklahoma thing. And to some extent, a little turned off by the portrayal. I'm a big fan of rural OK. Tulsa can pretty much taste me, but I really enjoy OKC and anything south/west of there. They're passing off a pretty broad swath of people as toothless shitbricks when in reality that's the VAST minority of people out there. And nothing about that is OK specific - uneducated poor exist everywhere. And maybe BL is right - just a right place, right time sort of thing that we'll look back on in a year and think to ourselves "Man, what the !@#$ was THAT all about?" I just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something. Thus far it's just not doing anything for me. I'd recommend "5 Came Back" for anyone looking for a good documentary. Really interesting look at some of the pivotal directors during the WWII era and their wartime experiences. |
Carole Baskin wins her case and now owns Joe Exotic’s zoo
Carole Baskin, whose longstanding feud with Joe Exotic was chronicled in the hit Netflix docuseries "Tiger King," has been awarded the zoo once owned by her nemesis.An Oklahoma judge ruled in favor of Baskin's Big Cat Rescue Corporation Monday in its lawsuit against the Greater Wynnewood Development Group, LLC, (GWDC). The latter company once was owned by Exotic, whose real name is Joseph Allen Maldonado-Passage. The order gives Baskin control of about 16 acres of land in Garvin County, Oklahoma, that is home to an animal park with an array of big cats. GWDC must "vacate the Zoo Land premises within 120 days of service of this Order...Vacation of premises shall also require removal of all zoo animals from the Zoo Land," the court order said. https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/02/us/ca...rnd/index.html |
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And man, the people in Tiger King reminded me so much of the people I saw all over when I was in that state. They had teeth, but they were some redneck shitbricks. |
That bitch Carole Baskin does a little dance on its grave.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Tiger King zoo permanently closes <a href="https://t.co/SPNIFjj1mp">https://t.co/SPNIFjj1mp</a></p>— BBC News (World) (@BBCWorld) <a href="https://twitter.com/BBCWorld/status/1296019759813799936?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 19, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> |
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