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BigRedChief 10-27-2017 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 13178347)
Is this show supposed to be a comedy or drama? I watched part of the pilot episode and shut it off because it seemed to be neither. I would've been interested in a comedy, but the pilot wasn't making me chuckle.

its only on its 4th or 5th show but it's getting its legs under it and deciding what type of show works best with Mcfarlands humor within a Star Trek remake.

Frazod 10-27-2017 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 13178496)
I kind of agree. To be honest, have we ever seen a legit sci-fi comedy show?

Red Dwarf. That's the only one I can think of. And of course, that's British, so depending on your tastes, you might not view that as comedy.

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/...PNG?1307468855

unlurking 10-27-2017 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 13178496)
I kind of agree. To be honest, have we ever seen a legit sci-fi comedy show?

Red Dwarf. That's the only one I can think of. And of course, that's British, so depending on your tastes, you might not view that as comedy.

Lexx was hilarious.

patteeu 10-27-2017 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 13178496)
I kind of agree. To be honest, have we ever seen a legit sci-fi comedy show?

Red Dwarf. That's the only one I can think of. And of course, that's British, so depending on your tastes, you might not view that as comedy.

Mork and Mindy with Robin Williams and My Favorite Martian with Bill Bixby. Duh. :)

siberian khatru 10-27-2017 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 13178496)
I kind of agree. To be honest, have we ever seen a legit sci-fi comedy show?

Red Dwarf. That's the only one I can think of. And of course, that's British, so depending on your tastes, you might not view that as comedy.

Quark, from the 1970s, if that counts as "legit."

patteeu 10-27-2017 07:58 PM

Alf, Third Rock from the Sun, the list goes on.

RealSNR 10-27-2017 08:13 PM

I guess in my mind I didn't really categorize those as sci-fi comedies... more just sitcoms with alien characters.

unlurking 10-28-2017 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 13179219)
I guess in my mind I didn't really categorize those as sci-fi comedies... more just sitcoms with alien characters.

Which is totally what I expected from The Orville based on the trailers.

Miles 10-28-2017 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by unlurking (Post 13178679)
Lexx was hilarious.

Those first several movie like episodes I watched way back on cable (maybe Cinemax) before the sci-fi channel show were particularly great. At the time was so weird and amusing.

GayFrogs 10-29-2017 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 13178503)

Or how about a non-corny sci fi comedy...https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media...honybylumb.jpg

Bowser 10-29-2017 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 13177858)
Tonight's was decent, even if it was another commentary on upvote/downvote culture. Black Mirror had that one new episode, and even Community did a similar thing with castes of society based on your social rating. The Orville put a really cool different spin on it. I liked it.

I did too, after I was done with it. While I was watching it I thought it was pushing the "super preachy" boundaries, but after it was over I felt it was more of a critique of today's society and how people get flamed for not falling into lock step with the popular opinion of the moment. Solid episode.

DaneMcCloud 10-30-2017 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 13180787)
I did too, after I was done with it. While I was watching it I thought it was pushing the "super preachy" boundaries, but after it was over I felt it was more of a critique of today's society and how people get flamed for not falling into lock step with the popular opinion of the moment. Solid episode.

I’ve chosen to “unplug” from Facebook, Twitter and Instagram.

I actually feel a tangible difference since doing so, as I’m no longer constantly bombarded with opinions that I didn’t request.

And yet CP has decided to go Upvote/Downvote.

Irony at its finest.

hometeam 11-02-2017 02:16 PM

Orville renewed

Frazod 11-02-2017 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13183433)
I’ve chosen to “unplug” from Facebook, Twitter and Instagram.

I actually feel a tangible difference since doing so, as I’m no longer constantly bombarded with opinions that I didn’t request.

And yet CP has decided to go Upvote/Downvote.

Irony at its finest.

Now that I'm unbanned I can contain the bulk of my political discussion to DC, and I tend to keep my Facebook stuff upbeat, happy and (mostly) non-offensive. I simply unfollow people who can't keep annoying shit to themselves, and hide anything I don't care to see, and generally refrain from venturing outside my little safe zone. There are probably less than a dozen people that I regularly interact with there.

Never did Instagram, and I ****ing loathe Twitter.

007 11-02-2017 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 13193538)
Now that I'm unbanned I can contain the bulk of my political discussion to DC, and I tend to keep my Facebook stuff upbeat, happy and (mostly) non-offensive. I simply unfollow people who can't keep annoying shit to themselves, and hide anything I don't care to see, and generally refrain from venturing outside my little safe zone. There are probably less than a dozen people that I regularly interact with there.

Never did Instagram, and I ****ing loathe Twitter.

I feel like I know most of them too.

threebag 11-02-2017 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 13178496)
I kind of agree. To be honest, have we ever seen a legit sci-fi comedy show?

Red Dwarf. That's the only one I can think of. And of course, that's British, so depending on your tastes, you might not view that as comedy.

Red Drawf is/was Awesome.

DaneMcCloud 11-03-2017 11:59 AM

Now that The Orville has been officially renewed for Season 2, I need to catch up on the last few episodes.

notorious 11-03-2017 12:02 PM

Good enough to keep watching.

I am surprised.

unlurking 11-03-2017 01:44 PM

I loved the Dr's...

Spoiler!

DaneMcCloud 11-03-2017 07:54 PM

Well, if last night’s episode *wasn’t* an episode of TNG...

aturnis 11-03-2017 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13183433)
I’ve chosen to “unplug” from Facebook, Twitter and Instagram.

I actually feel a tangible difference since doing so, as I’m no longer constantly bombarded with opinions that I didn’t request.

And yet CP has decided to go Upvote/Downvote.

Irony at its finest.

FB is a major immoral social engineering experiment.

Just getting rid of it was good enough for me. Don't have that problem with Twitter or Instagram.

Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk

aturnis 11-03-2017 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by unlurking (Post 13195461)
I loved the Dr's...

Spoiler!

Don't forget the guy in the woods she took blood from.

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BigRedChief 11-03-2017 10:04 PM

I hated that episode. Why did we have to watch whiny kids fighting? Kids don't change? They could have showed that in a couple of minutes.

007 11-03-2017 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 13196189)
I hated that episode. Why did we have to watch whiny kids fighting? Kids don't change? They could have showed that in a couple of minutes.

They did. Several times in a row. :D

temper11 11-04-2017 12:01 AM

I've thought about giving the show a try, but am tired of Hollywood jamming their agenda down my throat - and I've heard this show does some of that. Does CP agree?

007 11-04-2017 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by temper11 (Post 13196275)
I've thought about giving the show a try, but am tired of Hollywood jamming their agenda down my throat - and I've heard this show does some of that. Does CP agree?

I wouldn't say they are "jamming" it but they are pushing it. They addressed same sex relationships in a rather unique way though.

GayFrogs 11-04-2017 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by temper11 (Post 13196275)
I've thought about giving the show a try, but am tired of Hollywood jamming their agenda down my throat - and I've heard this show does some of that. Does CP agree?

There was one episode that was a tad anti-religious (the society entirely contained in a spaceship), but again, nothing compared to TNG where they outright express the danger of allowing religion to take hold on a planet. It seems like the writers are consciously avoiding being preachy so far.

DaneMcCloud 11-04-2017 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by temper11 (Post 13196275)
I've thought about giving the show a try, but am tired of Hollywood jamming their agenda down my throat - and I've heard this show does some of that. Does CP agree?

It's really no different than the original Star Trek series, where they addressed racial, political and religious issues nearly every week.

Star Trek has always been a "morality tale", which is why the Abrams produced movies and even Enterprise have missed the mark.

Ragged Robin 11-05-2017 10:49 PM

Tried watching this. Couldn't finish the first episode with the mom and two kids crash landing with the robot. Completely unwatchable.

GayFrogs 11-06-2017 01:51 PM

You picked a weak episode to start with.

crayzkirk 11-07-2017 04:40 PM

It wasn't great and it wasn't terrible. The Doctor was a bit hypocritical in her actions. Stab the guy that basically saved her and then shoot him. Really? Maybe use something in the medical bag to incapacitate him and then escape?

Very predictable and would the Captain really risk the entire ship and crew to go through a rift which could result in them being destroyed for two crew members and two badly behaved children?

At least they are trying to keep the episodes diverse and not be Kirk/Spock/McCoy each week. Not that it was a bad thing.

And thankfully, NO WHESLEY!!!!!!!!!

BigRedChief 11-08-2017 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by crayzkirk (Post 13205426)
And thankfully, NO WHESLEY!!!!!!!!!

First rule of any good entertainment, no whiney kids!

Frazod 11-08-2017 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 13206167)
First rule of any good entertainment, no whiney kids!

At least Wesley was well behaved. Those little ****ers needed beaten in the worst way.

crayzkirk 11-08-2017 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 13206300)
At least Wesley was well behaved. Those little ****ers needed beaten in the worst way.

Well, they didn't have a father to keep them in line...

Frazod 11-11-2017 12:54 PM

The last episode was hilarious. More than a little disturbing, but also hilarious. Interesting take on the Ilia character from the first Star Trek movie.

I either didn't notice the credits or it wasn't there, but almost immediately I realized the blue alien was played by Rob Lowe. Great casting choice. LMAO

RealSNR 11-11-2017 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by threebag02 (Post 13194417)
Red Drawf is/was Awesome.

I want to catch up on the new episodes they've been making. I wonder if they're any good.

GayFrogs 11-11-2017 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 13211109)
I either didn't notice the credits or it wasn't there, but almost immediately I realized the blue alien was played by Rob Lowe. Great casting choice. LMAO

He is quite ****able :)

vailpass 11-11-2017 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by idrapethat (Post 13211133)
He is quite ****able :)

https://image.spreadshirtmedia.com/i...le-t-shirt.jpg

GayFrogs 12-01-2017 02:09 PM

This series seems to get better every episode. Loved the last one...characters were spot on and the plot was cool. Standing on the shoulders of the next generation.

srvy 12-01-2017 08:23 PM

I dont normally go for this type stuff. I am not a Trekkie or a Star Wars fanboy but I like this show. It moves along fast has some humor makes you think with a moral to the story. I hope they can keep it up without going off the rails because as it is now its a winner.

notorious 12-01-2017 09:51 PM

Will keep watching.

Rausch 12-02-2017 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Ragged Robin (Post 13202255)
Tried watching this. Couldn't finish the first episode with the mom and two kids crash landing with the robot. Completely unwatchable.

I've watched 1 ep beyond that one (perhaps 2 - when did the "Blue man" show up again?) and it was by far the worst.

So far, to me at least, this is a very ST-NG show with comedy added.

I think it does a good job of pointing out social issues ST might run into, while confronting our own, and NOT taking a preachy side.

Bob Dole 12-06-2017 08:56 AM

Watched the first 3 episodes on my phone last night before I ran out of data. I enjoyed it.

JD10367 12-12-2017 03:19 AM

Okay, I’m sure Seth MacFarlane sold Fox on “The Orville” by telling them it would be “like ‘Galaxy Quest’ but raunchy”. But instead he’s made a show that’s both funny as well as thought provoking and intelligent and as scientific as any “Trek”. The season ender was hilarious and horrifying and allegorical and scientifically out-there all at once, and still had room for human emotion. Compared to his other works like “Ted” and “Family Guy”, this show is like if Weird Al wrote a symphony to rival Beethoven’s 5th.

bowener 12-12-2017 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13196729)
It's really no different than the original Star Trek series, where they addressed racial, political and religious issues nearly every week.

Star Trek has always been a "morality tale", which is why the Abrams produced movies and even Enterprise have missed the mark.

Your second point is what more people need to realize. Star Trek isn't a "run around shoot 'em up" kind of franchise. I am intrigued but worried about this Tarantino project that may get off the ground.

Unrelated to your comment, but I wanted to hate The Orville because I'm really not entertained by most of SM's humor, but the show has some great writing and characters despite some stupid sophomoric jokes. I will agree that there are a few low brow jokes that do hit the mark pretty well.

I know this will appear nitpicky to most, but I really wish they would have explained that Ed and Gordon met during a history class of the late 20th century or something. Most of the jokes are based on pop culture from this era, after all.

Rausch 12-14-2017 12:21 PM

I'm amazed how much LESS SJW is in the Orville than the new ST series.

To me, this looks like TNG with humor. Well, MORE humor...

patteeu 12-14-2017 12:53 PM

I’m not really loving it yet. It’s good enough to keep watching and hoping it gets better. I haven’t really developed much connection with any of the characters yet.

keg in kc 07-22-2018 10:22 AM

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"[I]n Season 2 the storytelling is more assertive and bold. There's some narratively bold stuff that was just amazing to make," says MacFarlane, adding, "Every episode feels like a movie."

keg in kc 10-28-2018 07:23 PM

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Bowser 10-29-2018 08:03 AM

Patrick Warburton, lol

ShowtimeSBMVP 12-24-2018 11:46 PM

Back this Sunday baby

Deberg_1990 12-25-2018 01:29 PM

Weird premiere date?


Sounds like FOX doesn’t have much faith in it?

Bowser 12-25-2018 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 13987218)
Weird premiere date?


Sounds like FOX doesn’t have much faith in it?

Fox screwed the pooch with Firefly, so yeah, they probably don't have much faith in it.







(and no, Orville is not as good or the same as Firefly, but it's definitely good enough. Fox will still **** it up, you watch.)

scho63 12-25-2018 11:36 PM

What are the redeeming qualities that make Orville good TV? Never watched it but I've went to shows like It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia because people swore by it and I;m glad I did.

Also eager to see and learn

Frazod 12-26-2018 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 13987707)
What are the redeeming qualities that make Orville good TV? Never watched it but I've went to shows like It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia because people swore by it and I;m glad I did.

Also eager to see and learn

It’s basically Star Trek Next Generation Lite with humor.

And it’s far better than what’s currently passing as actual Star Trek.

scho63 12-26-2018 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 13987780)
It’s basically Star Trek Next Generation Lite with humor.

And it’s far better than what’s currently passing as actual Star Trek.

Gracias! :thumb:

JD10367 12-28-2018 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 13987707)
What are the redeeming qualities that make Orville good TV? Never watched it but I've went to shows like It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia because people swore by it and I;m glad I did.

Also eager to see and learn

First episode or two the humor was a little forced. After that, MacFarlane started making the Trek-style show he’d always wanted. Still has humor and human interactions, also pushes some Trek style storylines (gender choice, Internet voting and superficiality, science of a 2D universe, et cetera).

Frazod 12-31-2018 12:06 PM

The season opener sucked. Hard. Mercer stalking Kelly, the doctor's brat getting mixed up with a bad kid, Bortus having to go home to pee. WTF? Worst episode of the show so far. Can't believe they used it as a season opener; if that had been the first episode I ever watched, I would not watch again.

No where to go but up, I guess.

:shake:

GayFrogs 12-31-2018 12:48 PM

I thought it was great. Only part I didn't like was alara (is that her name?) getting set up with the alien. It's nice having an episode of entirely dialogue. To each their own.

srvy 12-31-2018 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 13998947)
The season opener sucked. Hard. Mercer stalking Kelly, the doctor's brat getting mixed up with a bad kid, Bortus having to go home to pee. WTF? Worst episode of the show so far. Can't believe they used it as a season opener; if that had been the first episode I ever watched, I would not watch again.

No where to go but up, I guess.

:shake:

What a season opening bomb yuk I had to switch to the Sunday night football game half hour in.

Huge disappointment.

Bowser 12-31-2018 03:22 PM

Well that sucks. I was bummed I forgot about it, but maybe nor so much now.

Frazod 12-31-2018 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 13999434)
Well that sucks. I was bummed I forgot about it, but maybe nor so much now.

Wish I'd missed it.

GayFrogs 12-31-2018 03:44 PM

I'm not certain but I think the dinosaur bartender was george from seinfeld ROFL

Frazod 12-31-2018 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by idrapethat (Post 13999501)
I'm not certain but I think the dinosaur bartender was george from seinfeld ROFL

You are correct. Jason Alexander is listed in the cast.

The one that really cracked me up was when I realized it was Rob Lowe who played the blue alien that ****ed Kelly.

007 01-01-2019 05:55 AM

yeah, not a good season opener. Felt like a stupid filler episode but why would you open with a filler episode? Oh well, hopefully thats the only stinker.

GayFrogs 01-04-2019 03:30 PM

I didn't like this last episode. Wasn't the inhabited planet falling into the star done already in TNG?

007 01-04-2019 05:15 PM

Porn addiction as a subject? Really? Two bad episodes. Not a good start.

Frazod 01-04-2019 08:04 PM

Make that two HORRIBLE episodes - just finished watching the second pile of crap.

Did Kathleen Kennedy secretly take over production? Good lord. I guess if anybody ever wondered what Worf would have been like if he was queer and emo, now we know.

Strike one and strike two.

4321

keg in kc 01-05-2019 11:09 AM

It's like a shitty Natural Light version of STTNG.

Which is disappointing after hearing about how different season 2 was going to be. It's just more flat humor, bad writing, inane plots trying to hide behind pretty visuals. Not going to stay on my DVR many more weeks at this rate (not that it was on my DVR this week anyway with the Spectrum/Tribune spat).

MTG#10 01-07-2019 06:41 PM

I thought I'd check this thread and everyone would be talking about how it redeemed itself after that first shitty episode.

I thought this one was hilarious. To each their own I guess.

GayFrogs 01-10-2019 09:19 PM

Not a bad episode, but I don't like the idea of the show having basically zero sympathetic characters now.

Bowser 01-10-2019 09:22 PM

Not only can I not watch Orville right now because of Spectrum's pissing contest with Fox, but apparently I can't even get it on demand because these two cocksucking megacorporations are trying to squeeze the last drop of blood out of each other.

GayFrogs 01-10-2019 09:34 PM

You don't have hulu? I think the first episode this season is free here https://www.fox.com/the-orville/

007 01-11-2019 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 14023755)
Not only can I not watch Orville right now because of Spectrum's pissing contest with Fox, but apparently I can't even get it on demand because these two cocksucking megacorporations are trying to squeeze the last drop of blood out of each other.

Hulu has your back

This weeks ep was definitely better that the last two and next weeks look like a step in the right direction. Hopefully those first two were the filler eps and they decided to get them out of the way quickly.

Bowser 01-11-2019 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by idrapethat (Post 14023770)
You don't have hulu? I think the first episode this season is free here https://www.fox.com/the-orville/

I might have Hulu real soon as I am sick of Spectrum and their British colony tax rates. I'm holding on for Game of Thrones, then I'm going to drop them like a day old enchilada dinner.

ShowtimeSBMVP 01-17-2019 09:45 PM

Finally a good one

keg in kc 01-18-2019 04:53 PM

How can the first two be so ****ing bad and the last two so ****ing good.

Frazod 01-28-2019 09:24 PM

Finally watched the last episode about first contact. It was lame as ****, although probably not quite as lame as the first two of the season.

This show is just about to lose my interest. It's not just Star Trek Light - it's lazy, silly and stupid Star Trek Light. The last one was like a bad early NG episode, minus the quality actors who could at least make it somewhat bearable.

Plus, the cute super strong brunette has been replaced with a not-cute super strong brunette. She was probably the most interesting character on the show. ****ers. Mercer is more like Barkley than Kirk. Gay Worf is as annoying as the new Klingons on Discovery, and the rest of them are just bleh.

This has really gone down the shitter quickly. Should be finding its footing and getting better. Instead, it's getting worse. While Discovery is getting much better. Go figure.

GayFrogs 01-28-2019 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 14078546)
Finally watched the last episode about first contact. It was lame as ****, although probably not quite as lame as the first two of the season.

This show is just about to lose my interest. It's not just Star Trek Light - it's lazy, silly and stupid Star Trek Light. The last one was like a bad early NG episode, minus the quality actors who could at least make it somewhat bearable.

Plus, the cute super strong brunette has been replaced with a not-cute super strong brunette. She was probably the most interesting character on the show. ****ers. Mercer is more like Barkley than Kirk. Gay Worf is as annoying as the new Klingons on Discovery, and the rest of them are just bleh.

This has really gone down the shitter quickly. Should be finding its footing and getting better. Instead, it's getting worse. While Discovery is getting much better. Go figure.

Yeah...it was bad. Totally implausible premise. The actress playing the new security officer looks like a former meth-head. I'm holding out hope, because even these weaker episodes look like shakespeare compared to the first two seasons of TNG.

ShowtimeSBMVP 01-31-2019 08:38 PM

It’s almost like they’re trying to get canceled


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