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mr. tegu 02-25-2015 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats. (Post 11346657)
so...did Saul pay the guy to fall of the billboard, or was it coincidence?

It was a setup. When Saul got him on the catwalk the guy mumbled, "took you long enough" and then they had a quick good job handshake.

Buehler445 02-25-2015 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 11346746)
It was a setup. When Saul got him on the catwalk the guy mumbled, "took you long enough" and then they had a quick good job handshake.

Yep. He wouldn't have climbed the ladder otherwise.

L.A. Chieffan 02-25-2015 12:16 PM

It was obvious that it was staged.

cosmo20002 02-25-2015 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats. (Post 11346657)
so...did Saul pay the guy to fall of the billboard, or was it coincidence?

Not sure if serious

mikeyis4dcats. 02-25-2015 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 11346972)
Not sure if serious

I think it WAS a setup, but it is a topic of debate amongst viewers. Some (wrongly) think there was money in the handshake.

notorious 02-25-2015 09:27 PM

Does anyone else think that the wife of the embezzler is hot?

Demonpenz 02-25-2015 09:45 PM

She looks like Rashida Jones in mom pants and hair. I never got It's all good man out of Saul Goodman until he said that in the ally way. This show is TIGHT TIGHT TIGHT>

Brock 02-25-2015 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 11346746)
It was a setup. When Saul got him on the catwalk the guy mumbled, "took you long enough" and then they had a quick good job handshake.

I missed that.

cosmo20002 02-25-2015 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats. (Post 11347820)
I think it WAS a setup, but it is a topic of debate amongst viewers. Some (wrongly) think there was money in the handshake.

I don't see how it could even be a debate.
The guy was up there basically doing nothing, and he fell only when Saul was making his statement with the camera rolling.
Then the "it took you long enough" comment with the handshake.

He couldn't get the local news to cover his story, but he knew that they couldn't ignore a rescue like that and his name and ad would be all over town.

cosmo20002 02-25-2015 11:15 PM

That whole episode was really a bit too hokey for me.
That opening scene was really pretty ridiculous. It was one of those only-on-TV schemes that only works if a whole bunch of little things go exactly right, all while relying on a stranger to act exactly as you want. That guy could have easily said, "Eh, I'll just keep the cash." It was just kind of stupid.

RockChalk 02-26-2015 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 11347995)
That whole episode was really a bit too hokey for me.
That opening scene was really pretty ridiculous. It was one of those only-on-TV schemes that only works if a whole bunch of little things go exactly right, all while relying on a stranger to act exactly as you want. That guy could have easily said, "Eh, I'll just keep the cash." It was just kind of stupid.

The good thing here is that Better Call Saul happens to be a show on TV

'Hamas' Jenkins 02-26-2015 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 11347995)
That whole episode was really a bit too hokey for me.
That opening scene was really pretty ridiculous. It was one of those only-on-TV schemes that only works if a whole bunch of little things go exactly right, all while relying on a stranger to act exactly as you want. That guy could have easily said, "Eh, I'll just keep the cash." It was just kind of stupid.

You're right about the opening scam. You undertake a massive risk (with the $1000 plus, unless the bills are counterfeit) for an uncertain take from the other guy's wallet (what if he only has $20), and you may not even get the original money back.

Gonzo 02-26-2015 09:27 AM

Well that's kinda odd that the writers want us to believe a scam like that would work. That's not like them at all.
It's almost like this one hokey show I used to watch where the main character was in hiding from a drug lord. He ended up hatching a really odd scheme to get rid of the guy that would never work in real life. It had to do with a bell, an old Mexican guy in a wheelchair, explosives, poison beans, poison berries and a kid in the hospital.
Really weird. Had to suspend belief a little there.

mr. tegu 02-26-2015 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 11348218)
You're right about the opening scam. You undertake a massive risk (with the $1000 plus, unless the bills are counterfeit) for an uncertain take from the other guy's wallet (what if he only has $20), and you may not even get the original money back.

That is a good point and makes the whole premise from Saul's perspective make much more sense and removes that risk factor of basically scamming himself out of money.

Buehler445 02-26-2015 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Gonzo (Post 11348249)
Well that's kinda odd that the writers want us to believe a scam like that would work. That's not like them at all.
It's almost like this one hokey show I used to watch where the main character was in hiding from a drug lord. He ended up hatching a really odd scheme to get rid of the guy that would never work in real life. It had to do with a bell, an old Mexican guy in a wheelchair, explosives, poison beans, poison berries and a kid in the hospital.
Really weird. Had to suspend belief a little there.

Yep.

mikeyis4dcats. 02-26-2015 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Gonzo (Post 11348249)
Well that's kinda odd that the writers want us to believe a scam like that would work. That's not like them at all.
It's almost like this one hokey show I used to watch where the main character was in hiding from a drug lord. He ended up hatching a really odd scheme to get rid of the guy that would never work in real life. It had to do with a bell, an old Mexican guy in a wheelchair, explosives, poison beans, poison berries and a kid in the hospital.
Really weird. Had to suspend belief a little there.

That scam actually exists in various forms. I know it's widely warned in Paris that tourists avoid gypsy scams where a girl approaches you with what appears to be an expensive ring and asks if you dropped it. IF you say yes, they ask for a reward. If you say no, they attempt to sell it to you. Some rubes will throw good money at her thinking it's an expensive piece but it's not.

Baby Lee 02-26-2015 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 11348218)
You're right about the opening scam. You undertake a massive risk (with the $1000 plus, unless the bills are counterfeit) for an uncertain take from the other guy's wallet (what if he only has $20), and you may not even get the original money back.

That's why it's known as a payday scam.

Pasta Little Brioni 02-26-2015 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 11347853)
Does anyone else think that the wife of the embezzler is hot?

Would plow

beach tribe 02-26-2015 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats. (Post 11348297)
That scam actually exists in various forms. I know it's widely warned in Paris that tourists avoid gypsy scams where a girl approaches you with what appears to be an expensive ring and asks if you dropped it. IF you say yes, they ask for a reward. If you say no, they attempt to sell it to you. Some rubes will throw good money at her thinking it's an expensive piece but it's not.

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/wWE6mgWm7AA" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Pitt Gorilla 02-26-2015 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 11348218)
You're right about the opening scam. You undertake a massive risk (with the $1000 plus, unless the bills are counterfeit) for an uncertain take from the other guy's wallet (what if he only has $20), and you may not even get the original money back.

No way the $1000 was real. I mean, the watches were fake, why wouldn't the money be fake?

BWillie 02-26-2015 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 11349059)
No way the $1000 was real. I mean, the watches were fake, why wouldn't the money be fake?

That's what I'm thinking as well. Dark alley, easy to produce passable counterfeit bills especially for a situation where you virtually can't get in trouble. What is the guy going to do..ummm hey police I robbed this drunk guy,...and it turns out..umm he had counterfeit bills. ARRRRRREST HIM!

Fire Me Boy! 02-27-2015 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 11349536)
That's what I'm thinking as well. Dark alley, easy to produce passable counterfeit bills especially for a situation where you virtually can't get in trouble. What is the guy going to do..ummm hey police I robbed this drunk guy,...and it turns out..umm he had counterfeit bills. ARRRRRREST HIM!

Because the whole intent is to get the guy to give you wallet and the cash, plus his own cash, in exchange for the "Rolex."

Fire Me Boy! 02-27-2015 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 11348218)
You're right about the opening scam. You undertake a massive risk (with the $1000 plus, unless the bills are counterfeit) for an uncertain take from the other guy's wallet (what if he only has $20), and you may not even get the original money back.

He wouldn't target someone with only $20. He's clearly spent the night drinking with the guy, so this is not a complete unknown.

Baby Lee 02-28-2015 06:30 PM

Johnny Hooker running a scam for Henry Gondorff

<iframe width="854" height="510" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/BAF9OAO4TtA" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Scammer's wallet

https://thechive.files.wordpress.com...ng?w=600&h=357

Ceej 02-28-2015 06:33 PM

That opening scene was ****ing hilarious.

Really, really digging this show.

BigRichard 03-01-2015 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 11353258)
Johnny Hooker running a scam for Henry Gondorff

<iframe width="854" height="510" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/BAF9OAO4TtA" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Scammer's wallet

https://thechive.files.wordpress.com...ng?w=600&h=357

Did you catch that yourself or am I giving you to much credit? Nice find either way.

Pasta Little Brioni 03-02-2015 11:39 PM

Very meh tonight

Baby Lee 03-03-2015 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 11357084)
Very meh tonight

Fill me up Meatball, I want it AALLLLL.

Gonzo 03-03-2015 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 11357180)
Fill me up Meatball, I want it AALLLLL.

LMAO

It was a little slow paced but it's setting up something huge. I was really expecting Saul to meet up with a certain bell-ringing grandpa at the nursing home.

Sure-Oz 03-03-2015 07:40 AM

Slower episode. That started well
...not bad though

Pasta Little Brioni 03-03-2015 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Gonzo (Post 11357283)
LMAO

It was a little slow paced but it's setting up something huge. I was really expecting Saul to meet up with a certain bell-ringing grandpa at the nursing home.

Me too. It's gotta be coming at some point though.

eDave 03-03-2015 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Gonzo (Post 11357283)
LMAO

It was a little slow paced but it's setting up something huge. I was really expecting Saul to meet up with a certain bell-ringing grandpa at the nursing home.

Things like this are what makes this show great. I didn't think of that during that scene though. Should have.

Love'd his acting while he was getting that "one million dollar retainer".

WFT to WTF. So good.

L.A. Chieffan 03-03-2015 02:12 PM

I thought it was great. Best one yet, it keeps getting better every week.

BWillie 03-03-2015 06:58 PM

Probably the worst episode so far. I mean, one of them has to be the worst, i guess it was this one

Baby Lee 03-03-2015 07:09 PM

Excited to see what they do with Mike's

Spoiler!


Kerry Condon, loved her in two great HBO series, Rome and Luck.

Plus, Irish accent. Rawr.

Brock 03-03-2015 07:10 PM

This show is ****ing great.

cosmo20002 03-03-2015 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 11353258)
Johnny Hooker running a scam for Henry Gondorff

Scammer's wallet

https://thechive.files.wordpress.com...ng?w=600&h=357

Very clever, those rascals.

cosmo20002 03-03-2015 07:30 PM

The story with Saul's brother is getting a little tiresome.

mr. tegu 03-03-2015 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 11358562)
The story with Saul's brother is getting a little tiresome.

He is serving an important purpose. Saul still wants to please him and be a legitimate lawyer. You can start to see how he is going to have a real conflict of interests with regards to staying honest and pleasing his brother or being tempted by other means of income.

Factoring in the brother seemingly being manipulative of Saul and Saul feeling that he owes his brother for helping him out of big trouble in the flashback and you have an interesting dynamic.

Gonzo 03-03-2015 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 11358614)
He is serving an important purpose. Saul still wants to please him and be a legitimate lawyer. You can start to see how he is going to have a real conflict of interests with regards to staying honest and pleasing his brother or being tempted by other means of income.

Factoring in the brother seemingly being manipulative of Saul and Saul feeling that he owes his brother for helping him out of big trouble in the flashback and you have an interesting dynamic.

This. And it's totally within the writers' dynamic. Slow and fast. Lots of character development etc.
It's a good show. I'm really digging it.

Sure-Oz 03-03-2015 09:35 PM

Since Saul's bro and his chick are nowhere in bb it makes me wonder if something happens to them later.

BWillie 03-04-2015 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 11358923)
Since Saul's bro and his chick are nowhere in bb it makes me wonder if something happens to them later.

We dont really know anything about Saul outside of his office though from BB.

Otter 03-04-2015 10:25 AM

Got caught up on this last night and give it a solid 8/10 so far. One very minor pet peave; when Saul goes to his brother's house why does he put his electronics in the mail box instead of just leaving them in the car?

Gonzo 03-04-2015 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Otter (Post 11360037)
Got caught up on this last night and give it a solid 8/10 so far. One very minor pet peave; when Saul goes to his brother's house why does he put his electronics in the mail box instead of just leaving them in the car?

Two reasons...
1. Then the audience wouldn't really know how bad his brother's 'condition' is.
2. I believe that Jimmy's brother likes to actually see the electronics being put away (at times).

Demonpenz 03-04-2015 01:06 PM

it's a federal offense to mess with mail he is a lawyer and he knows that.

notorious 03-04-2015 02:48 PM

Saul and Mike connection begins.......

Skyy God 03-04-2015 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Demonpenz (Post 11360400)
it's a federal offense to mess with mail he is a lawyer and he knows that.

Not sure if serious, but the daily local newspaper isn't delivered by mail.

ragedogg69 03-04-2015 04:16 PM

it took that old lady nearly 90 seconds of uncut television to get down stairs to the couch. I can understand why people called this episode slow. I still loved it.

Otter 03-04-2015 05:03 PM

Who would win in no holds barred fight to the death? Paco or Tommy DeSimone (Joe Pesci's character in Goodfellas)?

Baby Lee 03-04-2015 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Cave Johnson (Post 11360700)
Not sure if serious, but the daily local newspaper isn't delivered by mail.

He's talking about the mailbox being a secure place to put electronics instead of leaving them in one's car, nothing about newspapers.

cosmo20002 03-04-2015 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 11358614)
He is serving an important purpose. Saul still wants to please him and be a legitimate lawyer. You can start to see how he is going to have a real conflict of interests with regards to staying honest and pleasing his brother or being tempted by other means of income.

Factoring in the brother seemingly being manipulative of Saul and Saul feeling that he owes his brother for helping him out of big trouble in the flashback and you have an interesting dynamic.

Yeah, I get that, but that just doesn't seem that interesting. So he wants to please his brother. Meh.
And that he has some kind of kooky condition. Just seems like it is just something weird for the sake of being weird. I guess I should have more faith in the writers.

The one good aspect of it is that is leads to Saul's interactions with the douchebag law partner. Those are pretty good.

cosmo20002 03-04-2015 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Otter (Post 11360956)
Who would win in no holds barred fight to the death? Paco or Tommy DeSimone (Joe Pesci's character in Goodfellas)?

What show is he on?

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-04-2015 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Otter (Post 11360956)
Who would win in no holds barred fight to the death? Paco or Tommy DeSimone (Joe Pesci's character in Goodfellas)?

Are you talking about Tuco? Tuco would eat DeSimone's sawed off ass so quickly he'd need half the Tums in ABQ to settle down his heartburn.

Fire Me Boy! 03-04-2015 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Cave Johnson (Post 11360700)
Not sure if serious, but the daily local newspaper isn't delivered by mail.


Actually, many are. Totally depends on whether they run a route near the delivery. I grew up with my father the publisher and printer of a newspaper in SWMO, and we mailed more than got thrown.

Baby Lee 03-04-2015 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 11361257)
And that he has some kind of kooky condition. Just seems like it is just something weird for the sake of being weird.

Weird, but not created out of whole cloth. There are entire communities in the eastern mountain ranges and rural mountain west for people claiming electromagnetism sensitivity.

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 11333114)


RobBlake 03-05-2015 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 11361283)
Are you talking about Tuco? Tuco would eat DeSimone's sawed off ass so quickly he'd need half the Tums in ABQ to settle down his heartburn.

yeah.. not even close... tuco is an insane mother effer.

love this series.

I didn't check entire thread..

but there is a conspiracy theory of red and blue being a significant theme of good vs evil

Baby Lee 03-05-2015 12:44 PM

Excellent defense of the slow take

http://www.avclub.com/article/86-sec...lowness-216041

Baby Lee 03-05-2015 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Otter (Post 11360956)
Who would win in no holds barred fight to the death? Paco or Tommy DeSimone (Joe Pesci's character in Goodfellas)?

Better fight would be Tuco on BB/BCS versus Det. Sanchez on The Closer/Major Crimes

siberian khatru 03-05-2015 01:01 PM

I've been re-watching Breaking Bad with my wife and son, who haven't seen it before, and last night we hit "Open House" in Season 4. In that episode Marie is showing up at open houses, pretending to be a different person each time, and stealing stuff. At one of the houses she lifts ... a Hummel figurine.

Perfect timing, as I had forgotten that and hadn't made the connection during Sunday night's Better Call Saul.

I have no idea if the figurine she stole was part of the old lady's collection in Saul, but I'm 100 percent sure they were different houses.

Buehler445 03-05-2015 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 11362240)
I've been re-watching Breaking Bad with my wife and son, who haven't seen it before, and last night we hit "Open House" in Season 4. In that episode Marie is showing up at open houses, pretending to be a different person each time, and stealing stuff. At one of the houses she lifts ... a Hummel figurine.

Perfect timing, as I had forgotten that and hadn't made the connection during Sunday night's Better Call Saul.

I have no idea if the figurine she stole was part of the old lady's collection in Saul, but I'm 100 percent sure they were different houses.

Holy shit.

mikeyis4dcats. 03-05-2015 01:48 PM

I was suprised afterwards when I saw the ep title. What a wierd thing to key on. Gotta have some significance.

frankotank 03-05-2015 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 11362219)
Better fight would be Tuco on BB/BCS versus Det. Sanchez on The Closer/Major Crimes

Tuco and Mike
I'd put my money on Tuco, but......I don't think Mike would make it easy

Baby Lee 03-05-2015 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats. (Post 11362317)
I was suprised afterwards when I saw the ep title. What a wierd thing to key on. Gotta have some significance.

Word is, it was initially titled 'Jello' but the owners of the Jello trademark were too interested in their continued ties with Bill Cosby to grant licensing.*


* - Last part about Cosby is snark, initial title info is true. Middle part about licensing is supposition on why they changed the title.

mikeyis4dcats. 03-05-2015 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 11362419)
Word is, it was initially titled 'Jello' but the owners of the Jello trademark were too interested in their continued ties with Bill Cosby to grant licensing.*


* - Last part about Cosby is snark, initial title info is true. Middle part about licensing is supposition on why they changed the title.

Wierd tho....why not call it Gelatin?

eDave 03-05-2015 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by frankotank (Post 11362379)
Tuco and Mike
I'd put my money on Tuco, but......I don't think Mike would make it easy

If you can bring weapons, my scratch is on BB Mike. No question. He's an assassin.

Baby Lee 03-05-2015 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats. (Post 11362493)
Wierd tho....why not call it Gelatin?

Episodes

6 - Five-O
5 - Jello Alpine Shepherd Boy
4 - Hero
3 - Nacho
2 - Mijo

mikeyis4dcats. 03-05-2015 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 11362513)
Episodes

6 - Five-O
5 - Jello Alpine Shepherd Boy
4 - Hero
3 - Nacho
2 - Mijo


That's even wierder. Should have been Alipne Shepard Boyo.

ChiTown 03-09-2015 09:03 PM

Better Call Saul -
 
Are you ****ing kidding me? This series is starting off incredible! Love it.

Chiefspants 03-09-2015 09:03 PM

Mike never was big on half measures. ‪Holy ****.

siberian khatru 03-09-2015 09:05 PM

Fantastic episode

Demonpenz 03-09-2015 09:07 PM

those cops are dumb. a nickle plated .45 is not mikes style

Gonzo 03-09-2015 09:51 PM

Hey brother. We've got a thread already. I'll merge them.

Buehler445 03-09-2015 09:55 PM

****ing great ass episode. ****ing phenomenal.

Buehler445 03-09-2015 10:10 PM

Man. That last scene was tough to watch. That, ladies and gentlemen was quality television. That was more emotion than his entire breaking bad role.

I'm glad I stayed up to watch it. Problem will be getting to sleep for an early morning. ****ing fieldwork :cuss:

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-09-2015 11:33 PM

That's the difference between good and great: character development.

That episode provided more roundness to Mike's character than three seasons of BB ever did.

The great thing about BCS to this point is that it enriches both series, whereas so many prequels just bastardize them.

Zebedee DuBois 03-10-2015 05:06 AM

Jonathan Banks delivered a great performance!
That was an awesome episode of great television.

Buehler445 03-10-2015 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 11372445)
That's the difference between good and great: character development.

That episode provided more roundness to Mike's character than three seasons of BB ever did.

The great thing about BCS to this point is that it enriches both series, whereas so many prequels just bastardize them.

Well said.

Gonzo 03-10-2015 06:28 AM

This show gives me a giant TV boner. I love Mike and the way they've been able to squeeze so much story out him. Just amazing shit.

keg in kc 03-10-2015 11:23 AM

"You know what happened. The question is...can you live with it." Slow zoom out. Total silence.

What a fantastic ending.

Sorter 03-10-2015 11:25 AM

Fantastic episode.


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