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Mosbonian 03-06-2024 06:34 AM

Just dropping this in here...

As a long time Manager who has seen more resumes in my work life than I care to admit.....

Way too many times the resumes received don't really match the true skills of the candidate.....both positively and negatively.

displacedinMN 03-06-2024 06:37 AM

The biggest sham now is employers (hr) that run everything through a computer. If you do not add key words in your answers/resume, the will not look at you to be interviewed.

Make sure you add words in your resume and skills that they want and need for a job.

Get on linkedin too.

Bearcat 03-06-2024 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by displacedinMN (Post 17429524)
The biggest sham now is employers (hr) that run everything through a computer. If you do not add key words in your answers/resume, the will not look at you to be interviewed.

Make sure you add words in your resume and skills that they want and need for a job.

Get on linkedin too.

Yeah, I've heard stories where a hiring manager recommends someone with a ton of experience, they apply and then get filtered out... and then it makes you wonder how many more highly qualified candidates get filtered out.

Mosbonian 03-06-2024 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by displacedinMN (Post 17429524)
The biggest sham now is employers (hr) that run everything through a computer. If you do not add key words in your answers/resume, the will not look at you to be interviewed.

Make sure you add words in your resume and skills that they want and need for a job.

Get on linkedin too.


Yeah...I have always hated the JR software programs that do filter out what ends up being qualified candidates. I had an agreement with our HR rep....send me 2 files...one that had the qualified candidates according to your software and one with the non-qualified candidates.

You would be surprised how many times I ended up hiring from the second list and got a great employee.

displacedinMN 03-06-2024 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17429537)
Yeah, I've heard stories where a hiring manager recommends someone with a ton of experience, they apply and then get filtered out... and then it makes you wonder how many more highly qualified candidates get filtered out.

Happens all time in education. Many here use a questionnaire that has to be done so that you have the right to apply. If you dont use the "educational bullshit" words, you will not get an interview. The other thing it does is week out less tech savvy people.
I have heard of people adding words in with a small font, and white color, so that they get bumped up and a better chance of getting an interview.

To me, it is the HR person that is just lazy.

Gravedigger 03-06-2024 08:17 AM

Okay, but when do we end template next?

BryanBusby 03-06-2024 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17429537)
Yeah, I've heard stories where a hiring manager recommends someone with a ton of experience, they apply and then get filtered out... and then it makes you wonder how many more highly qualified candidates get filtered out.

It happened to me with jobs I felt I was borderline over qualified for. It was a hard lesson many years ago.

But I understand why it happens. We get over 500 applications in a week for mid-tier jobs. No way our recruiters could even get through half of them in a reasonable amount of time and 95% of them are junk. It's a necessary evil.

BigRedChief 03-06-2024 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by displacedinMN (Post 17429524)
The biggest sham now is employers (hr) that run everything through a computer. If you do not add key words in your answers/resume, the will not look at you to be interviewed.

Make sure you add words in your resume and skills that they want and need for a job.

Get on linkedin too.

I use to have a section titled "Experience with" that listed every piece of software I's ever worked with. Interviewers understood what I was doing and didn't mind. I eventually took it out and worked the software list into the resume.

Linked in is a must. You don't have a good public profile that matches your resume, I'd not interview you.

BigRedChief 03-06-2024 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Mosbonian (Post 17429522)
Just dropping this in here...

As a long time Manager who has seen more resumes in my work life than I care to admit.....

Way too many times the resumes received don't really match the true skills of the candidate.....both positively and negatively.

OMG this is so true these days. Even when they are not lying on their resume just adding the usual fluff to a resume. That's okay but in what I do there is a big difference between designed the architecture and just helped implement it.

You need the architect level for this position but you get the guy who just helped implement and you know within 5 minutes that the candidate isn't qualified for the position and everyone has wasted their time... again,

Chief Roundup 03-06-2024 09:22 AM

I know a lot of institutions are now teaching students to use generative AI platforms to create resumes.

Holladay 03-06-2024 09:42 AM

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ton of experience, they apply and then get filtered out
DEI stuff?

Pablo 03-06-2024 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 17429593)
I use to have a section titled "Experience with" that listed every piece of software I's ever worked with. Interviewers understood what I was doing and didn't mind. I eventually took it out and worked the software list into the resume.

Linked in is a must. You don't have a good public profile that matches your resume, I'd not interview you.

LinkedIn just feels like Business Facebook anymore. Maybe that’s all it ever was. Can’t wait to “connect” with previous and potential employers!

Mosbonian 03-06-2024 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 17429587)
It happened to me with jobs I felt I was borderline over qualified for. It was a hard lesson many years ago.

But I understand why it happens. We get over 500 applications in a week for mid-tier jobs. No way our recruiters could even get through half of them in a reasonable amount of time and 95% of them are junk. It's a necessary evil.


I agree with the necessary evil part...

It's when they use the software to hide behind doing what they are paid to do....search for the best candidate.

displacedinMN 03-06-2024 11:03 AM

Wait until companies run AI resumes though AI to see if they are written by AI.

Rain Man 03-06-2024 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Mosbonian (Post 17429522)
Just dropping this in here...

As a long time Manager who has seen more resumes in my work life than I care to admit.....

Way too many times the resumes received don't really match the true skills of the candidate.....both positively and negatively.

That's why we started testing candidates. We do a basic resume screening (by a person, not a computer or AI), and then those candidates are invited to come in for the test. The test weeds out the non-qualified folks quickly.

I still remember one job candidate many years ago who had a fantastic resume for a quantitative analyst position. I was stoked about the guy because on paper he checked every one of our boxes easily - lots of analysis experience, expertise in software, similar types of studies completed, etc. Then he came in, lasted about halfway through the test, and walked out saying that he didn't think he was a good fit for the job. I looked at his test afterwards and the guy couldn't do basic math. I have no idea whose resume he used, because it couldn't have been his.


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