He tends to nail his 1st round picks, I'll give him that.

But he's REALLY struggled over the last several years outside of that. Moreover, the 1st round picks he's gotten right were either guys taken in the top 5 or guys who you're sitting there shouting "NOOOOOO!!!! Why is this guy falling!! The damn Chargers are gonna get him!"

Derwin James and Rashawn Slater are the easiest examples. I could not for the life of me figure out why the league let either of those guys fall to SD. They were picks that anybody on this board could've made.

He took a gamble on Herbert and it hit. But correct me if I'm wrong, wasn't Herbert a guy who most thought would go 1.1 that season and he had an off year? It wasn't as though the guy didn't have a massive pedigree. A tough platform season pushed him behind Tua and for most that made very little sense. Even that had an element of luck to it.

He also completely cratered the Chargers salary cap. Hopefully he does the same in Vegas.

Nope. Raiders hired Tom Delaney to do their books.

The Raiders are really positioning themselves to be at the bottom of the AFC West for the foreseeable future.

Mark Davis:

Hires Broncos coach that the Raiders put 59 points on.

Hires Chargers GM that the Raiders put 63 points on.

What is next? Hiring Todd Haley?? Herm Edwards? What failed Chief will he hire?

Bob Sutton is available.

Telesco built some very talented teams in SD.

Poor bastard was also in SD where talented teams have been doomed forever.

Not my top choice, but not terrible either.

Meh, I was hoping Telesco would end up in KC in an advisory role. Dud NAILS his first round picks every single year. James and Slater were both incredible picks at their spots in the draft.

Veach seems to do pretty good in the first round. I imagine he would do even better if he drafted where the Chargers tend to draft vs 28-32 like KC has done since Mahomes became the starter.

Oh, 100% agree. Burt doesn't NEED Telesco's help, but I thought the Golden Horseshoe lodged firmly up his backside might help.

Dang, dude.

I thought we were friendly.

You and I would've taken Derwin and Slater.

They were as obvious a pick as you'll ever see.

Credit to Telesco, I guess, for not overthinking it. But both of those guys were CLEARLY the best guys on the board when they went off.

People like to cry for Buffalo but the Raiders might have to watch the Chiefs and Mahomes become a dynasty in their own stadium.

That's just crazy talk.

Agreed, but I would have been ITCHING to move up for both. Telesco, IIRC, didn't for either. He played his hands masterfully for two incredible players at positions of need.

Hell, with SD/LA, it goes even further back than that, well before Telesco. Year after year, I remember SD taking a player I really liked, seemingly, right before KC drafted and we got stuck with the leftovers. Think: what WE did to Buf vis-a-vis McDuffie/Elam. It seems like it happened time after time, but the one I recall most vividly was Olshansky going right ahead of KC's pick and our need for a DT/DE. Who'd we get? Junior ****ing Siavii. **** is etched into my brain, so I'm a bit biased, I suppose.

Who'd you rather have? Ryan Simms or Quinten Jammer? Bernard Pollard or Marcus McNeil?

Did I see the Fade are looking at Stoolers QB coach to be their OC?? Please God, I hope this never ends!

Raiders are ****ed.

Failure

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GEpvwTga...jpg&name=large

Raiders are done. So that's nice. Broncos are ****ed. Chargers will still Charger.

This is the way.

An NFC executive told ESPN’s Jeremy Fowler that Russell Wilson could be traded to the Raiders this offseason.

There’s almost no chance Wilson returns to the Broncos for a third season under center after head coach Sean Payton benched the one-time superstar QB in Week 17. The NFC executive pointed out that the Raiders were among the team’s on Wilson’s 2021 wishlist when it was clear his time in Seattle was over. The Raiders, under new head coach Antonio Pierce, will need to upgrade at quarterback this offseason after Aidan O’Connell struggled mightily as the team’s starter in the season’s second half. Wilson, who had the league’s third best completion rate over expected in 2023, would certainly be an upgrade for Davante Adams.

Oh Freighteeeeers??? You've been quiet ROFL ROFL ROFL

Love to see it ROFL

I prefer A Clockwork Orange style viewing for ole Freighters and crew...

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/sta...15553135583434

Raiders are expected to hire former Cardinals’ head coach Kliff Kingsbury as their offensive coordinator, per league sources.

https://twitter.com/JFowlerESPN/stat...20021227028962

The #Raiders interviewed former #Browns head coach Hue Jackson for an offensive staff position, per source. Jackson has a long history with Marvin Lewis, who's set to join the Vegas staff.

ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL

Man needs to book his flight on the Turkish hairlines ASAP

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Panicking and taking another TE after they spent a high 2nd on a good one last year is so Raiderish!

Laugh about it while you can.

:LOL:

Don't worry, we got plenty of time

You're a good bloke, so I don't wanna drive the skewer in any further than necessary... but your draft was near the absolute ROCK BOTTOM of every single draft grade I've read :)

The 12 formation sets the Raiders are going to roll out are going to be troublesome. The problem is they'd be MORE troublesome if the QB's weren't Gardner Minshew and Aiden O'Connell, and I say that as a bit of a fan of Minshew (I think he's the prototypical backup cube for the NFL).

Yup. Raiders have some nice weapons in Adams, Meyers and now Bowers, plus Maxx Crosby on the other side of the ball, but their OL hasn't been good for awhile now, and they don't have a starting-caliber QB. Still.

Marvin Lewis and Hue Jackson will bring the same success to the Raiders that they brought to the Bengals and Browns.

RIP 00 Jim Otto

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lUziS5Qv-J8

Al Davis appreciated Otto's commitment and dedication to the Raiders that the owner had 00 in his owner's box for decades at every Raider game, home and away. Otto never missed a game no matter how bad his injuries were.

We'll keep laughing until we stop winning, or you all start and we all know the latter ain't happening anytime soon.

I know he was a Raider but the guy deserves his own thread...

https://x.com/KeithRicci/status/1792...5Es1_&ref_url=

Dozens of broken noses, hip pointer, broken fingers, broken ribs, broken jaw, neck stingers, concussions, kicked-in teeth and a bout of double pneumonia. 75 surgeries.

Jim Otto never missed a game his entire NFL career. 308 straight games played.

They just don’t make them like #00 anymore.

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Both Pittsburgh and Las Vegas were badly in need of a QB upgrade. So why was Pittsburgh able to get both Wilson and Fields and the Raiders couldn’t get either of them or anyone.

Surely , they could’ve outbid Pittsburgh for Fields who bought him for nothing essentially. He is better than what they have now, and who knows he might even turn out to live up to his potential, although that would be a surprise.

That was pretty funny.

We have no QB.

AP promised no bandaids. He lied.

But you got a good TE! Progress.

Fields is awful. Demonstrably worse than AOC or Minshew.

Wilson is better, maybe. Not a guy I'd want to bet on though.

They're going with Aiden O'Connell. He will have an offseason with the 1st string (unlike last year being relegated to 3rd string), will have an experienced OC to work with, and they will be a defensive orientated team under coach Pierce (see last years Christmas game).

I agree that bringing in Fields would not be any guarantee of better performance and would be essentially throwing a third dart. But why not when that dart is basically free.

That’s what Pittsburgh did and it was a very good decision. No downside. And possibly some upside.

That says a lot as I doubt she has ever played professional football in her life and yet Fields is still worse.

Why would we bring in Fields when we signed his OC at Chicago? A pairing which failed.

Bingo.

I'd say if we wanted Fields, he would have been ours. I'm guessing Getsy was thrilled to be away from Fields.