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Pasta Little Brioni 07-14-2022 04:46 PM

Nah Shildt should have followed MO out the door but shouldn't have been the scapegoat

raybec 4 07-14-2022 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brother (Post 16368554)
Nah Shildt should have followed MO out the door but shouldn't have been the scapegoat

Based on what? Taking a mediocre team to the post season every year?

DJ's left nut 07-15-2022 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 16368566)
Based on what? Taking a mediocre team to the post season every year?

I quit trying to have the conversation with him.

Shildt sucked and that's all their is to it. No amount of large numbers or relative rankings will convince him otherwise.

BigRedChief 07-15-2022 03:36 PM

This doesn’t sound good. Arenado sounds like he wants to hang with the home town cool team.

From MLB.com
ST. LOUIS -- After the Dodgers put a major scare into the Cardinals on Tuesday, battled from behind for their 26th comeback victory on Wednesday and then closed the door on the series at Busch Stadium on Thursday, it all looked infinitely familiar to All-Star third baseman Nolan Arenado.

It reminded him of last September, when the Cardinals coupled good pitching with good hitting, oozed confidence throughout their lineup and played with a fearlessness while winning 17 games straight.

“That [Dodgers] offense is probably the best offense in the game, right?” asked Arenado following Los Angeles’ 4-0 victory over the Cardinals on Thursday. “So they probably feel like they are never out of any game. We felt like that last year when we were going through our streak -- we were never out of any game. Right now, we’re just kind of grinding.”

George Liquor 07-16-2022 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 16370144)
This doesn’t sound good. Arenado sounds like he wants to hang with the home town cool team.

From MLB.com
ST. LOUIS -- After the Dodgers put a major scare into the Cardinals on Tuesday, battled from behind for their 26th comeback victory on Wednesday and then closed the door on the series at Busch Stadium on Thursday, it all looked infinitely familiar to All-Star third baseman Nolan Arenado.

It reminded him of last September, when the Cardinals coupled good pitching with good hitting, oozed confidence throughout their lineup and played with a fearlessness while winning 17 games straight.

“That [Dodgers] offense is probably the best offense in the game, right?” asked Arenado following Los Angeles’ 4-0 victory over the Cardinals on Thursday. “So they probably feel like they are never out of any game. We felt like that last year when we were going through our streak -- we were never out of any game. Right now, we’re just kind of grinding.”

Unless there is more to the article I'm not getting that at all, he just stated the obvious.

BigRedChief 07-16-2022 11:15 AM

From Heyman on MLB.com

Juan Soto declined $440M, 15-year offer from Nats and will be available now. A few reasons he declined: 1. Heavy backloading of deal is tantamount to big deferral 2. $29M AAV is seen as old figure in light of Scherzer, other deals 3. Team is likely to be sold so owner unknown.

Why can’t we give him 1/2 billion? What would it take? Walker/O’Neil/Bader and Carlson get us in serious talks?

George Liquor 07-16-2022 11:26 AM

Mo ain't giving anyone 500mil

Even though Busch is now a defacto amusement park.

MarkDavis'Haircut 07-16-2022 11:57 AM

I wish the Pirates could give someone $100 million.

MarkDavis'Haircut 07-16-2022 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16362288)
The organization has been rotting from the head down for years.

They've become extremely difficult to root for at this point.

As a Pirates fan, I wish I had your problems.Baseball first world problems.

:(

BigRedChief 07-16-2022 06:50 PM

Can some of you baseball geeks know where to get an answer?

Is Carp doing this because the go into the first two rows of the short porch in RF?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Volume up to hear Matt Carpenter absolutely CRUSH this home run 🔊<br><br>His 12th HR in 30 games.<br><br>🎥 <a href="https://twitter.com/MLB?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@MLB</a> <a href="https://t.co/vAwacyrX7c">pic.twitter.com/vAwacyrX7c</a></p>&mdash; The Athletic MLB (@TheAthleticMLB) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheAthleticMLB/status/1548455323983261698?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 16, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Pepe Silvia 07-16-2022 09:45 PM

I knew he was going to tear it up for the Yankees.

BigRedChief 07-17-2022 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 16371093)
Can some of you baseball geeks know where to get an answer?

Is Carp doing this because the go into the first two rows of the short porch in RF?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Volume up to hear Matt Carpenter absolutely CRUSH this home run 🔊<br><br>His 12th HR in 30 games.<br><br>🎥 <a href="https://twitter.com/MLB?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@MLB</a> <a href="https://t.co/vAwacyrX7c">pic.twitter.com/vAwacyrX7c</a></p>&mdash; The Athletic MLB (@TheAthleticMLB) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheAthleticMLB/status/1548455323983261698?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 16, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

"Crush" that ball? It went about 3-5 rows into the stands. Thats probably not even out at Bush?

raybec 4 07-17-2022 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 16370144)
This doesn’t sound good. Arenado sounds like he wants to hang with the home town cool team.

From MLB.com
ST. LOUIS -- After the Dodgers put a major scare into the Cardinals on Tuesday, battled from behind for their 26th comeback victory on Wednesday and then closed the door on the series at Busch Stadium on Thursday, it all looked infinitely familiar to All-Star third baseman Nolan Arenado.

It reminded him of last September, when the Cardinals coupled good pitching with good hitting, oozed confidence throughout their lineup and played with a fearlessness while winning 17 games straight.

“That [Dodgers] offense is probably the best offense in the game, right?” asked Arenado following Los Angeles’ 4-0 victory over the Cardinals on Thursday. “So they probably feel like they are never out of any game. We felt like that last year when we were going through our streak -- we were never out of any game. Right now, we’re just kind of grinding.”

Was there a part of his quote that wasn't in this post? Nothing he says here leads me to the conclusion that he wants to do anything with the Dodgers. They do have an excellent offense.

duncan_idaho 07-17-2022 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 16370819)
From Heyman on MLB.com

Juan Soto declined $440M, 15-year offer from Nats and will be available now. A few reasons he declined: 1. Heavy backloading of deal is tantamount to big deferral 2. $29M AAV is seen as old figure in light of Scherzer, other deals 3. Team is likely to be sold so owner unknown.

Why can’t we give him 1/2 billion? What would it take? Walker/O’Neil/Bader and Carlson get us in serious talks?

Was exchanging texts with a friend about this today.

I'd think they obviously want Jordan Walker. He's the centerpiece. I'd think Carlson or O'Neill is another must-include piece in that deal. And Masyn Winn probably needs to head to Washington in the deal, too.

That deal doesn't completely strip the Cardinals OF and gives Washington a lot of young potentail to build around.

The question is if DeWitt would greenlight 15 years and 500M. Seems unlikely.

Jewish Rabbi 07-17-2022 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 16371283)
Was exchanging texts with a friend about this today.

I'd think they obviously want Jordan Walker. He's the centerpiece. I'd think Carlson or O'Neill is another must-include piece in that deal. And Masyn Winn probably needs to head to Washington in the deal, too.

That deal doesn't completely strip the Cardinals OF and gives Washington a lot of young potentail to build around.

The question is if DeWitt would greenlight 15 years and 500M. Seems unlikely.

It wouldn’t surprise me if Mo played kiss ass with the media to make it seem like we’re interested and then boo hoo when someone else gets the deal done.


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