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Sassy Squatch 07-09-2020 02:25 PM

Great thread to post that in

The Franchise 07-09-2020 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 15059170)
Frank Clark’s cousin dies of Covid

You’re a ****ing moron.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 07-09-2020 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15059365)
You’re a ****ing moron.

You gonna tell that to Frank?? Nah because you are a little bitch. Prayers are needed right now for Frank and his family 🙏🏻

Chiefspants 07-09-2020 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 15059375)
You gonna tell that to Frank?? Nah because you are a little bitch. Prayers are needed right now for Frank and his family 🙏🏻

(This is a Chris Jones thread)

Megatron96 07-09-2020 03:27 PM

I still have faith that Veach will get Jones signed. Though I have no idea how that might happen.

My off-the-cuff theory is something similar to what they did with Mahomes. No, not for $450 million, etc., but possibly a longer deal than usual for a DT so the Chiefs can absorb the bulk of the cap hit a few years down the line. The trick will be getting CJ to accept a little less money now for more money later. But both sides have said repeatedly that they want to stay together, so I'm fairly confident they'll get a deal done by the 15th.

[crosses fingers]

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 07-09-2020 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 15059397)
I still have faith that Veach will get Jones signed. Though I have no idea how that might happen.

My off-the-cuff theory is something similar to what they did with Mahomes. No, not for $450 million, etc., but possibly a longer deal than usual for a DT so the Chiefs can absorb the bulk of the cap hit a few years down the line. The trick will be getting CJ to accept a little less money now for more money later. But both sides have said repeatedly that they want to stay together, so I'm fairly confident they'll get a deal done by the 15th.

[crosses fingers]

Mahomes contract makes it very possible to sign Jones but would have to frontload Jones

eDave 07-09-2020 03:34 PM

Have we extended this piece of shit yet?

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 07-09-2020 03:35 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> DI Chris Jones was tied for the third highest-graded defender on 3rd and 4th downs in the 2019 season, trailing only Aaron Donald and Jamal Adams!<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a> <a href="https://t.co/XuN02Bib5m">https://t.co/XuN02Bib5m</a></p>&mdash; PFF KC Chiefs (@PFF_Chiefs) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF_Chiefs/status/1281322590812938257?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 9, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Megatron96 07-09-2020 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 15059407)
Mahomes contract makes it very possible to sign Jones but would have to frontload Jones

Ah, thx. Yeah, as I've said multiple times before, I haven' t a real clue how the whole contract/cap space thing works. I do enough math in my real life; never was interested in figuring out how the money works in sports.

staylor26 07-09-2020 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 15059036)
In an interview (before lockdown) Chris said that the franchise tag has 2 ways it plays out.

1) the team signs the player to a long term deal.

2) the team trades the player to a team that gives him a long term deal

He never even acknowledges playing on the tag as an option. His recent tweet re-enforces that stance.

What does that have to do with what was said in the tweet?

Jones nor his agent have publicly demanded a trade. Nothing close to that.

The tweet was clearly in reference to Mostert like Kimosabi said.

RustShack 07-09-2020 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 15059036)
In an interview (before lockdown) Chris said that the franchise tag has 2 ways it plays out.

1) the team signs the player to a long term deal.

2) the team trades the player to a team that gives him a long term deal

He never even acknowledges playing on the tag as an option. His recent tweet re-enforces that stance.

He didn’t have to say it because the options he listed are what happens. If he plays this year on the tag and gets tagged again it’s back to the same two options. Or one of those options happen before he gets tagged again.

SAUTO 07-09-2020 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15059419)
What does that have to do with what was said in the tweet?

Jones nor his agent have publicly demanded a trade. Nothing close to that.

The tweet was clearly in reference to Mostert like Kimosabi said.

This

RINGLEADER 07-09-2020 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 15059397)
I still have faith that Veach will get Jones signed. Though I have no idea how that might happen.

My off-the-cuff theory is something similar to what they did with Mahomes. No, not for $450 million, etc., but possibly a longer deal than usual for a DT so the Chiefs can absorb the bulk of the cap hit a few years down the line. The trick will be getting CJ to accept a little less money now for more money later. But both sides have said repeatedly that they want to stay together, so I'm fairly confident they'll get a deal done by the 15th.

[crosses fingers]

I hope Veach can swing something like this because the more I dig into the Mahomes deal the better it looks.

Mahomes is literally going to count < $30mm against our cap for the next 6 years. It’s crazy how much flexibility Veach has created for himself with the Mahomes deal. I could see everyone doing this kind of thing from here on out on the big deals:

- Almost no signing bonus at start
- Player gets security with iron-clad injury balloon payment
- Rolling roster bonuses let the team cut up the per year hit in 5 pieces each year
- Forcing the team to do it a year in advance guarantees the team is spending on players
- Since the team needs the player to restructure each year it gives the player more security that the team that is fielded is a good one and the coaching staff aren’t full of idiots — the player can pretty much force the team’s hand at any time giving additional security to the player.

It really is genius.

It takes you 4-5 years to get to a cap hit that equals what Mahomes is making and in year 6 they’ll presumably have the cap dollars to do it all again.

Bugeater 07-09-2020 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 15058271)
Hey Chris- can you sign this picture of Mahomes for me--

More like: Hey Chris- can you get Mahomes to sign this picture of Mahomes for me?

dlphg9 07-09-2020 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15058965)
Uh oh.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFL?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NFL</a> In general the worst way for a player to facilitate a trade is to go public w demand. Other teams know player is unhappy and lowball in trade offers. Puts current team up against the wall.</p>&mdash; Leigh Steinberg (@leighsteinberg) <a href="https://twitter.com/leighsteinberg/status/1280989784085630977?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 8, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Um wtf are you posting this for? Youre a moron.


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