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rabblerouser 10-04-2021 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 15872009)
Yeah, but there's lots of examples of guys who were good in one place flaming out in their next stop.

Andy WAS fairly disappointing between 9-7 and 1-5 in 2014 and 2015....here was this offensive guru and our offense couldn't throw a TD to a WR to save lives...any reactionary douche like OP would have flown off the handle at that point.

I got your "reactionary douche" right here, Wendy.

Hammock Parties 10-04-2021 12:19 PM

OWN THE OP REACTIONARY DOUCHE

rabblerouser 10-04-2021 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 15872151)
OWN THE OP REACTIONARY DOUCHE

I WEAR IT AROUND MY NECK, GODDAMN IT!!

ROFL

I had no less than 3 people from my Facebook friends list giving me shit about it at the AFC Divisional game.

I also told them when we were down by 24 points that we would score 4 TDs in the 2nd quarter and have the lead by the half...

Just wish I had known I was so close to gblowfish so I could have personally thanked him for the 10 things list that got me through the dark ages.

DJ's left nut 10-04-2021 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 15872074)
You’re just a 2 dimensional thinker…I mean, do you even madden, bro?

My favorite part about it is that every week I turn on the TV or the radio and here some talking head yap about "the blueprint" to slowing down the Chiefs.

3 games into Patrick Mahomes career some moron on a message board says "hey guys, teams are going to get tired of getting beat deep and play a 2-deep zone..."

And I'm supposed to pretend like this is some novel concept that it took 2 seasons to figure out and that Andy Reid, one of the best offensive minds in NFL history isn't going to be prepared for it.

That all it's ever taken in the NFL was to just not get beat deep and suddenly HoF players/coaches won't be able to move the football.

This is the most obvious, self-evident horseshit in the world. Yet these guys act like they just figured out cold fusion and that the Chiefs are just screwed. It's "wait until they get tape on Mahomes" in its dumbest form.

It's just hilarious. Of course teams are going to play 2-deep zone. They were always going to do it. And Reid was always going to adjust when they do. And the team is still going to score 40 points if Patrick Mahomes stays upright and they don't turn the ball over.

But keep patting yourselves on the backs, pre-game guys. You're doing great work here...

Pitt Gorilla 10-04-2021 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 15872357)
My favorite part about it is that every week I turn on the TV or the radio and here some talking head yap about "the blueprint" to slowing down the Chiefs.

3 games into Patrick Mahomes career some moron on a message board says "hey guys, teams are going to get tired of getting beat deep and play a 2-deep zone..."

And I'm supposed to pretend like this is some novel concept that it took 2 seasons to figure out and that Andy Reid, one of the best offensive minds in NFL history isn't going to be prepared for it.

That all it's ever taken in the NFL was to just not get beat deep and suddenly HoF players/coaches won't be able to move the football.

This is the most obvious, self-evident horseshit in the world. Yet these guys act like they just figured out cold fusion and that the Chiefs are just screwed. It's "wait until they get tape on Mahomes" in its dumbest form.

It's just hilarious. Of course teams are going to play 2-deep zone. They were always going to do it. And Reid was always going to adjust when they do. And the team is still going to score 40 points if Patrick Mahomes stays upright and they don't turn the ball over.

But keep patting yourselves on the backs, pre-game guys. You're doing great work here...

It's pretty crazy that the formula is really that easy.

1) Don't turn the ball over
2) Get 1-2 "stops" per game.

That's a KC win. Period. Damn, do we have it good.

DJ's left nut 10-04-2021 01:24 PM

And honestly, if the Chiefs are able to defer and get the ball first to start the second half, any of those 'stops' can just be FGs.

Pitt Gorilla 10-04-2021 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 15872370)
And honestly, if the Chiefs are able to defer and get the ball first to start the second half, any of those 'stops' can just be FGs.

Yup, that's literally why I put it in quotes. In a number of our games, getting them to actually kick it on 4th down could be considered a stop, even if it nets them 3 points.

rabblerouser 10-04-2021 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 15872357)
My favorite part about it is that every week I turn on the TV or the radio and here some talking head yap about "the blueprint" to slowing down the Chiefs.

3 games into Patrick Mahomes career some moron on a message board says "hey guys, teams are going to get tired of getting beat deep and play a 2-deep zone..."

And I'm supposed to pretend like this is some novel concept that it took 2 seasons to figure out and that Andy Reid, one of the best offensive minds in NFL history isn't going to be prepared for it.

That all it's ever taken in the NFL was to just not get beat deep and suddenly HoF players/coaches won't be able to move the football.

This is the most obvious, self-evident horseshit in the world. Yet these guys act like they just figured out cold fusion and that the Chiefs are just screwed. It's "wait until they get tape on Mahomes" in its dumbest form.

It's just hilarious. Of course teams are going to play 2-deep zone. They were always going to do it. And Reid was always going to adjust when they do. And the team is still going to score 40 points if Patrick Mahomes stays upright and they don't turn the ball over.

But keep patting yourselves on the backs, pre-game guys. You're doing great work here...

But the opponents are going to have a real "pick your poison", because it seems like a lot of holes were open for the RBs behind that big ol' line as the Iggles were sitting in their 2 and 3 deep zones trying to not get beat deep...

Get Flash Gordon on the field, both blocking and catching, and the whole "don't turn the ball over, just get a few stops" strategy is going to be in full effect.

Just wish Spags would put Jones back at DT.

GloryDayz 10-04-2021 07:40 PM

I think AR would benefit in threads/conversations like this if he didn't seemingly just totally discount defense. He's one of the greatest offensive side of football minds in history, but his willingness to sacrifice the D is what causes these threads to be born.

Marcellus 10-04-2021 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 15872370)
And honestly, if the Chiefs are able to defer and get the ball first to start the second half, any of those 'stops' can just be FGs.

BlackOp was advocating for making sure we get the ball first earlier today LMAO

GloryDayz 10-10-2021 06:56 PM

This defense that Andy has amassed certainly does call into question how great he is as a HEAD football coach.. Remember, the HEAD coach own both the O and the D, not just one or the other, so Andy owns this D's performance too...

RealSNR 10-10-2021 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 15883450)
This defense that Andy has amassed certainly does call into question how great he is as a HEAD football coach.. Remember, the HEAD coach own both the O and the D, not just one or the other, so Andy owns this D's performance too...

****ing reerun

4th and Long 10-10-2021 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 15883450)
This defense that Andy has amassed certainly does call into question how great he is as a HEAD football coach.. Remember, the HEAD coach own both the O and the D, not just one or the other, so Andy owns this D's performance too...

smh. You're over-reaching. Badly.

Steve Spagnuolo is IN CHARGE of the defense. That's what he gets PAID TO DO. DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR.

Looking to place the blame on Andy is sour grapes. If you're this unhappy with the team I suggest you root for someone else. I hear the Raiders and Broncos are taking applications a few doors down.

GloryDayz 10-10-2021 07:05 PM

LMAO at the excuse makers...

GloryDayz 10-10-2021 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 4th and Long (Post 15883521)
smh. You're over-reaching. Badly.

Steve Spagnuolo is IN CHARGE of the defense. That's what he gets PAID TO DO. DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR.

Looking to place the blame on Andy is sour grapes. If you're this unhappy with the team I suggest you root for someone else. I hear the Raiders and Broncos are taking applications a few doors down.

So, if you think that's true (and I doubt you really do), why is he so involved in the O? You can't have it both ways, if he's not accountable for the D he can't be for the O either, and we just saw him get intimately involved on the drive that took the game to 10-7.

Face it dude, he neglects the D, he absolves himself of the D, and that's all I'm pointing out.


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