Correct 100%.

On a 1 year deal they could afford to cut him, but he's a vet they'd make the other guys beat him out.

NO, thats definitely him

This. I don't know what people see in him.

He didn't "ball out" in preseason like Mahomo said.

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Darrell Williams is ok, he's basically a fall forward gain 3-4 yards type, he isn't gonna make big plays.

Now something interesting, if you work Smith as a HB/WR hybrid that plays special teams you could conceivably give him the 6th WR spot and figure out some ways to use his speed...he probably has more value than Dieter or the other WRs battling for that spot.

Also, not holding my breath on Tremon Smith. Who was the last CB -> RB/WR who worked out?

Hell, even Devin Hester kinda sucked as an offensive weapon for the Bears. Might be because their run of butt****ing moron Herm-brained defensive coaches couldn't figure out how to get him the ball in space, but still. Hester only ever produced, what? A handful of offensive TDs?

Not exactly what I'd call a dynamic playmaker.

If anyone could figure it out, it may be Andy and his offensive scheme.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Tremor Smith says he’s learning Andy Reid’s playbook as a running back. Smith, of course, could be a slot receiver in the future. The Chiefs’ preseason games just became more intriguing.</p>&mdash; Nate Taylor (@ByNateTaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/ByNateTaylor/status/1156599539257794561?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 31, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

That's actually interesting in that he's used to being a Cb so he can tackle and such.

Sounds like D-Rob gonna be traded to Giants.

Well with all the weapons the Chiefs have another burner that gets singled up could make some plays.

:facepalm:

Smith is the new DAT

Hate to say it, but we don't really need Demarcus Robinson.

We shouldn't trade him for jack shit, but if the right offer came to our door...

The **** do they even have that we'd want?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sounds like the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> had planned this move to offense for Tremon Smith for a while, perhaps dating back to when he emulated Lamar Jackson on the scout team in 2018.</p>&mdash; Charles Goldman (@goldmctNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/goldmctNFL/status/1156599623135432704?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 31, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Well, you may not "need" him right now, but an injury happens and you may. Plus he's gonna be that #3 guy for a while until Hardman gets it

Unfortunately we kinda do, if Watkins goes down DRob is the starter and with the spreading of the field you need multiple guys.

A 2020 3rd round pick :shrug:

Sammy Watkins finally became ironman? Tell me more.

The idea of trading Robinson makes no sense, you want to take a position of depth and take that away for a guy that doesn't have that much value in a trade.

That would be borderline. Anything below that is a nonstarter. He might play well enough to net a large enough contract to get us a mid round comp pick so we'd better get something to make it worth our while. Plus, Gettleman is one of the dirt worst GMs in the league. Maybe Veach can win a trade with him.

Robinson will be the 5th receiver on the depth chart by mid season. Hardman and Pringle are better

Ideally they're better.

Right now, who knows.

May be but you have to account for injuries and honestly youth, lots of young WR's don't produce right away.

Dipshit friend of mine today told me Pringle wasn't make the team.

Nope

I'm not sure hardman and pringle are actually better.

But I'm a drob fan

If so, great.

Keep the depth. He wouldn’t fetch anything that would be good enough to justify losing the quality depth IMO.

I reiterate, Sam Beal.

Not sure if they'd agree to it, but that's an appropriate value for value swap that addresses needs for both teams while both squads work from areas of relative strength.

Drob is a FA after this year so I doubt they'd do it.

Where did the idea of trading Robinson come from? Is any actual source speculating about this? Or is it just discussion on here?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chiefs have signed CB Michael Hunter, per source. 2016 undrafted free agent from Oklahoma State, he’s spent time with six NFL clubs, last with the New York Giants.</p>&mdash; Matt Derrick (@mattderrick) <a href="https://twitter.com/mattderrick/status/1156586791350218754?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 31, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

We've got all of these guys playing at a WR4 level, including Mecole Hardman.

Hell, at this point we don't really know if Robinson himself is anything more than that, and we'd be depending on him to be a WR2.

What I'm saying is we have too many WRs. We can't keep them all. And we should be using those resources to improve other positions on the team. Or at least get a shitty draft pick or two.

It was just an idea of mine. Inmem thinks he's going to the Giants specifically.

People are acting like it's a worse idea than moving Berry to LB

Trent Williams is available for trade. Redskins must've really pissed him off.

Sounds like it might be the Patriots making the trade. Goddamnit Redskins.

Some of the dudes will land on the IR with fake injuries, like Custis.

Hill, Watkins, Robinson, Hardman, Pringle and one wildcard spot. Shouldn't be an issue.

"Man, people really have a hard-on over Byron Pringle because of a couple of decent pre-season games before he missed the entire damn season w/ an injury. That sure seems strange, I wonder why...."

{Googles name}

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Oh. Now I get it.

Fellas, the odds are overwhelming that Byron Pringle is a JAG. He'll probably make the team and he'll probably have a few moments here and there, but why the hell are we just assuming he's a better player than Robinson, who has physical tools for days and is in his 4th year in this system?

Now I'd be willing to trade Robinson for the right return, but this idea that he's just gonna plummet down the depth chart because of a UDFA who had a couple of nice games against backups and then missed the entire season is just silly.

Can he play corner?

Maybe with a diet, a treadmill, a stick and string, and some determination.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">NY Giants are in full freak out mode with WR position. They have called the Chiefs multiple times to inquire about DeMarcus Robinson. Compensation being murmured about is either a 4th or 5th round draft pick.</p>&mdash; Chiefs Kingdom Editorial Board (@1_ChiefsKingdom) <a href="https://twitter.com/1_ChiefsKingdom/status/1155204089309011973?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 27, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Giants have called to inquire about the possibility of acquiring WR Demarcus Robinson from the Chiefs.</p>&mdash; EverythingNYG (@EverythingNYG) <a href="https://twitter.com/EverythingNYG/status/1155302463450357760?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 28, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I think if Pringle turns into Robinson I'd be happy with that.

I don't think that is good enough to move an important depth guy right before a super bowl push.

If you move Robinson, Pringle is a JAG and Watkins gets hurt you lost all your depth.

They can have Robinson for a 5th rounder + Janoris Jenkins, howboudah

Jenkins is old and scrubby.

A 4th round pick is what we paid for him. Unless he's not going to make the team, I see little reason to give up a contributing player for a breakeven price when this is lining up to be a season that we speak fondly of for decades afterward.

Why would you even bother at that price? Just keep the depth. Only worthwhile if it's a decent draft pick or player.

D Rob will have a breakout season

Robinson is all of our depth? We're only 2 deep at the WR position past Hill and Watkins?

News to me.

Yeah. That's not nearly enough.

Giants are desperate but clearly not desperate enough to actually do something about their WR issues.

You are then putting all the hopes of a position that is very important into a guy that is injury prone a rookie and a UDFA that has never played in an actual game...

I think people are acting like Pringle is a 1st round pick and it's weird.

Wouldn't take Jenkins if they offered him with a 5th round pick in tow for free.

Let's set aside the $10 million base salary this season that will rob of us cap rollover that could be used on Hill/Jones and just discuss his play on the field. The guy's washed. And frankly, for most of his career he's been overrated because of his splash plays. Meanwhile he'd get absolutely torched a handful of times/season while guessing.

I wouldn't be even a little bit surprised to see him cut outright.

Depending on how quickly he picks up the playbook, I can see Tremon Smith making the team as RB4.

Darrel Williams is a big pile of meh, and Smith has value as a KR.

Basically the guys fighting for those bottom spots RB 3/4 WR 5/6 just got some new competition.

:facepalm:

I'm the dude who screams at K State dipshits around here who still pine for Tyler Lockett. I'm not some KSU homer at all. I don't give a rat's ass about KSU.

Or Byron Pringle for that matter.

However, is it reasonable to say that Byron Pringle could be our WR4?

Yes. Definitely yes. And if he can't do the job, do we have lots of other guys who could figure it out? Yes we do.

That's all I'm saying. I'm not saying trade ****ing Hill and put Pringle in his place.

Christ.

Agreed on all counts.

I don't think O was melting down about this, more of a "cut the shit Frank." Kind of thing.

In which case, I agree. Cut the shit, Frank.

Hmmm. They must really be convinced they can do nothing with Smith at CB.

You keep saying this and it keeps being a terrible butt****ing idea.

We're about to pay him a significant chunk of the cap. You don't run him out on low-leverage plays. Playoffs where you need one? Let's roll.

Against the ****ing Jags in September? GTFO here with that shit.

Even if Hardman has the spot, you'd think that he could move to gunner since DAT is gone now and keep a spot if you're looking at ST guys. He must be truly terrible at corner. If he can do some gadgety shit on offense and cause a split second of hesitation, whatever. I'm in.

And in a reasonable situation I might agree with you but you are literally a Sammy Watkins injury away from Hardman and Pringle taking significant snaps, which would hurt to a degree.

No way I trade Drob unless you get something spectacular in return. He made alot of big plays last year and I fully expect him to continue to improve and I expect big things out of him.

And for the record, Tremon Smith is a butt****ing awful corner but a guy with 4.3 speed can have offensive value for only that reason.

The Texans should be begging them for a deal. Watson was the 4th highest sacked QB ever last year and he evaded a lot more using his legs

They already blew that wad, they signed Matt Khalil and they used their first 2 picks on OL.

Too bad they traded their upper-tier LT because he was an inmate that got too uppity.

No to trading DRob. Yes to trading a pick for a CB.

We're literally a Sammy Watkins injury away from Demarcus Robinson taking significant snaps, too.

Last year we actually DID have a Sammy Watkins injury and we had to throw shitty ****ing Chris Conley out there. Yeah, he had speed, but he had more trouble getting open than if we asked Mitchell Schwartz to play WR and Jalen Ramsey was defending him.

Pringle being the 3rd option if Watkins went down isn't the doomsday scenario you paint it to be, because if it is, we're kinda ****ed not matter what if Watkins goes down. And no, I'm not saying we actually would be. That's just the claim going around right now--- inexperience at the WR position (no matter how talented) being the next man up is a very bad thing.

It wouldn't be as smooth as Watkins, but we'd be just fine.

Heh. I’m not a KSU fan, but I love me some Pringle. He’s a better high point receiver with better long speed. I mean did we ever see Robinson burning corners downfield?

The Raiders TD was, well the the Raiders and Robinson didn’t burn the corner deep.

To me Robinson is an intermediate threat as a backup that Hardman will easily replicate. I think Pringle is such a good replacement for Conley bc he can give you what the old Conley (pre-Achilles year) did.

Homerism is a big part of his hype.

But he balled out last preseason.
Veach/Reid shared that he would have made the final roster if not for his injury.
He's reportedly looked great through OTAs and early TC, earning compliments from teammates and leadership and media.

Not sure that he's ahead of D-Rob at this point.

Depends on what we could get. This is Dave Gettleman here. If Veach could get a 3rd rd pick for him, then holy shit you do that yesterday.

That’s the thing. I know it’s going to be one of the first picks in the 3rd, but Gettleman is really dumb. I could see him doing that.

Then use that pick to go get a corner via trade

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“A lot of speed.”<br><br>~ <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a>’ new tailback Tremon Smith on what to expect from him on offense as he makes the switch from cornerback. Smith was an all-state quarterback in high school. <a href="https://t.co/JM6fZMDHVL">pic.twitter.com/JM6fZMDHVL</a></p>&mdash; Matt McMullen (@KCChiefs_Matt) <a href="https://twitter.com/KCChiefs_Matt/status/1156601747533705216?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 31, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I don't think they're getting a 3rd round pick for Robinson at all.

I've always been a fan of Robinson and he could be pretty good this year but he has rather little production in 3 years in the league and he has one year left before being a free agent.

Robinson is WR3 right now. He’s Mahomes go to target when the play breaks down, he just has that chemistry with Mahomes to get where he needs to be during the scramble.

The Chiefs aren't trading a starter on a Super Bowl caliber squad to get a draft pick that will get them a developmental player tomorrow. Get the **** out of here LMAO

I absolutely despise KSU and I'm extremely confident Pringle makes the team and i'm excited about him.


What a dogshit take.

I'm just saying I have no desire to trade him for a sack of shit just because we can.

doesnt are full back fill this role ?

“Are full back”, AKA Sherman, doesn’t carry the ball much.

Just like every FB in the modern NFL.

RRRRR fullback is for blocking matey

When you googled him did you notice his stats are pretty similar to Hardmans in college? With a way worse QB too. I'm not a K-State fan but think the guy could be a good player. He left school too early and has been arrested a few times. The guy is more than a JAG.

And I'll say it again.

Chris Conley was a bust. He had speed and length, but he had zero shimmy or ability to quick stop/start. He was great when the defender gave him a nice cushion, but he was horrible if they played him in man. And the fumbles. God, I won't miss his fumbles.

Patrick Mahomes isn't Alex Smith. Yes, these are all unproven guys, but he has the talent to at the very least turn any one of these bottom of the depth chart guys into a 4th WR option good for 200 yards on the year and MAYBE a TD. Possibly two TDs. In other words, I think several of these WRs possess the natural talent to be Chris Conley from last year. Especially Pringle, given his extra year of experience.

And like I said before, I'm not shitting on Robinson. I just saw that as a possible opportunity to gain a little help without losing much on offense. But I also haven't seen Robinson in his new elevated role within this offense this year. It's possible he turns out to be everything we want in a 3rd WR that we just never had last year even when Watkins was healthy.

Bust in what sense? He was a 3rd round pick that gave them multiple years worth of production. I mean they didn't get a steal by any means, but it was just fine.

I have ZERO interesting in trading D-Robinson unless someone is willing to over pay. And as mentioned above it would probably take a 3rd rounder and I don't see that happening. And even if it did, I would be nervous about it.

If we didn't have Jones, Hill, and Fuller to worry about, he's a guy I would toy with signing to an extension as long as its team friendly.

3rd rounder that we moved up to get. I mean 76th overall ain't nothin'.

The Achilles hurt him badly; he was never a guy that could get in/out of his breaks worth a damn and it only seemed to get worse after the achilles. He was truly valuable for us in 2016 but in '17 and '18 he was either hurt or along for the ride. In '15 he was an afterthought.

You're not always gonna do better than that with a 3rd rounder, but that's kinda the baseline of what I would say is a tolerable pick. I agree that 'bust' is a little strong, but it's not a pick that we really advanced the squad with either.

Nelson was taken later, takes FAR more heat here and was significantly more valuable to the Chiefs over his time here.