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Seems you're pretty dug in on a narrative here. |
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Who said that? Who said anything about Tyreek Hill? Are you comparing Justyn Ross to Mike Evans, Tee Higgins or Jamarr Chase. He hasn't even established himself as Chase Claypool yet. Get a grip on your emotional bias. |
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Isn't he the one who likes to run over cops? |
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I'm saying that guys like that win reps in that way. Big, tall, long WR's in that mold. And I'm saying, hell, if he win that way, you can throw that all damned day long until they pull a safety over. And if they do THAT, then someone else is open. |
Rice deserves a throw on the first play of every game, so he can get his drop and then get down to business.
Ross deserves more looks, due to the potential. Players like that seem to succeed for other teams, with way lesser quarterbacks. |
Someone told me he was only in for 6 plays.
6 plays 4 targets There were 2 drops but Mahomes must think he’s open if he throws balls his way 2/3 of the time. |
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He's at the top of the screen. Wide open on the play that Mahomes throws deep to Watson, but is a bit short. |
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Of course you can get good WR's past #30. But not with Waddle's skill-set. There are lots of ways to win reps for WR but the blazing speed plus hands, plus route runners go high. Don't be dense. Yeah I'm pretty dug in on the realities of the salary cap and the notion of fielding a defense, too. Call me crazy. |
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And we'd be complaining that Chris Jones was in Tennessee or something. Six of one, half dozen of the other. It is what it is, move on, draft and develop the next group of stars. |
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And the TEAM moves on. Who's not reading what? |
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You always say the chiefs draft so well in all these rounds, why couldn’t they have drafted wrs to pair with hill for cheap? |
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As for the second part of your post- well, they spent for Watkins in '18, so they needed to spend draft picks everywhere else. I really don't understand why some of you guys just flat don't understand the equation. If you're paying an elite QB, you have to go cheap in other places. You have to draft and develop. The salary cap is real, and you fudge it for a year maybe, but then you're going to have to have a few rough seasons like The Rams, for example. The way The Chiefs are doing it, they're going to contend for Super Bowls every single year. I doubt Veach strikes out on four swings at WR here. We can afford to be a little patient while they figure it out because our defense looks really good. |
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If this is your argument, I think you've kinda missed the point. |
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Telling yall, this Ross fella about to pop off.
If he gets going, then with Ross/Rice/Toney we can run every concept in a NFL playbook. |
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That could work if those players improve/get the playing time they need. |
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But i think the reason we see high target shares per snap for Rice/Ross/Toney is because they may be the 1st or 2nd read on the specific package they're in on. It could be, and probably is, totally by design. |
Something to think about...
I think if they's year's team played the 2022 after 5 games it would win by about 7-10. So ask yourself...which team is better? I strongly contend it's this one and that's without Omenihu. |
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The best chance of finding an elite WR is to draft one in the top ten picks. The second best chance is to continuously draft WR every year in rounds 2-5. That's just statistics talking, but it remains true. You either spend for a blue chip, elite prospect in the first 10-15 picks or you throw numbers at it in the rounds 2-5. Chiefs do not have top ten draft picks, so the latter strategy is the one they are implementing, as seen by spending three 2nd round picks on WR in the last five years. It's what Pittsburgh does. Chase Claypool George Pickens JuJu Smith-Schuster James Washington Diontae Johnson (3rd) |
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But I also don't think......are any of those WR's 2nd contract good WR"s? |
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But where KC will be drafting, you have a chance to find a stud in the 2nd, but you're going to have to suffer through drafting Skyy Moore. When you're panning for gold, you're going to find a lot of rocks. |
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We're just not gonna have alot of shots at blue chip dudes. |
Ok, we have 10 days til the Chargers come in here. Get this kid up and get him prepared. I'm ready for the Rice and Ross show.
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I know it wont be perfect, but I feel like Ross catch radius and Rice YAC are exactly what we are missing. |
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Every game we are hoping Andy gives the kid a proper chance. Every game we see Skyy Moore and MVS get the lions share of snaps and fail to make more than 2 catches. If not against a dogshit defense like Denver then when? Even with Watson out I doubt he'll get more than a couple of snaps.
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The Watson injury actually helps instead of hurts, IMO. It will force Reid and Co. to give Rice more snaps, it allows MVS to focus on the one thing he is above average in (deep routes), and it frees up snaps to get Ross on the field to see what he can do.
I believe the team comes out of the mini bye with a more set group of receivers with Toney, Rice, and MVS getting the bulk of the snaps and Moore and Ross getting snaps on special packages or when guys need a breather. |
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Pacheco was clearly better and his snaps were few and far between until late in the season last year. Kareem Hunt was the exception because vet RB went down with an injury not because Kareem out played him. |
Moore hasn’t shown anything. Then again neither have MVS and Toney really. If we’re going to give reps to players that are producing it should be Rice leaning into the number one position. After that I would prefer to see MVS/Toney because of their experience in the offense and then Ross and then Moore.
Had high hopes for Moore but for whatever reason it just isn’t working and we need to give Ross more of a shot. He can’t be any worse than the 2 catches and 10 yards Skyy gets each week. |
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But I'm skeptical Rice out snaps Moore this early in the season. |
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Meh these things in todays day and age are 50/50
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This does suck because he's already got an uphill climb and he may have just made it harder. |
:facepalm: 25k is a whole lotta temper tantrum, this isn't going to end the way I hoped... shit
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domestic violence?
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Who among us hasn’t destroyed between 0 and 25K worth of property, cast the first stone.
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We have at least a couple of DV guys on our roster.
I would suggest unbunching your panties. |
Well, well, well.
Skyy goes to the IR, and who takes the spot on the 53? THAT'S RIGHT. It's my boy Ross, back from banishment. Maybe he'll have a little somethin' somethin'. I'll say one thing-he's not going to be double covered, and he's likely going to draw the other team's 4th corner. That's not likely to be a big guy. Just chuck Justyn a few and let him climb the ladder. I'm not expecting much, but hey, you never know, right? GIMME SOME ROSS |
Yeah, I hope he really turns it on. He's got plenty of talent and room on his frame to bulk up. It would be nice if he turned into Tee Higgins or AJ Brown after some time in the NFL strength and conditioning program. Rice has that type of strength already. It would be great to end the season with two rookie wr's with actual potential.
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But if he could even be a sort of middle class man's Tee Higgins, that'd be ****ing fantastic. |
At this point, I just hope they roll with him. I realize he may need to work himself into it, but I just want them to give him a legitimate shot.
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Any thoughts on this kid for 2024? If he finally breaks out it would be huge for the offense.
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We release this piece of shit yet???
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I will never stop rooting for Justyn Ross until he's taking meaningful snaps from a better player. Until then, anything is better than Skyy and Toney.
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What the hell are they going to do with Ross, Toney and Moore? Let them battle for the last spot? Keep two of the three?
I'd honestly like to keep Toney if he isn't a cancer. Chances are, he's not going to drop every other pass next year. |
I'm not ruling any of them out for the lights coming on, but there is no world in which it is expected or likely. I think they will try to trade Toney, and when that doesn't happen, he's gone.
I expect Moore and Ross to make it to camp. |
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But I don't know where Toney stands with the staff. He may have pissed off too many people to be welcomed back. |
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The soon we accept he's a bum the better.
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I watch that SB punt return a lot and the way he is so Shifty on his feet is amazing when he makes that first guy miss. Frustrating to see the physical potential there going to dropped balls and interceptions :banghead: |
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