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aturnis 02-24-2016 06:08 PM

You have the technology to do both...

GloryDayz 02-24-2016 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 12097720)
You have the technology to do both...

You make an Egg-Cell-Ent point, I shall bring the MiFi to ensure BW isn't an issue.

DaFace 02-25-2016 10:52 AM

Sounds like the scrub wasn't weather related, so there goes my "smooth sailing" observation.

http://i.imgur.com/xDuuIrZ.png

It sounds like they're still working out some of the kinks with the new supercooled LOX (only used before on the launch that landed in December), so hopefully they'll get that figured out with this one.

Dave Lane 02-25-2016 12:27 PM

An abundance of caution? WTF?

DaFace 02-25-2016 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 12098923)
An abundance of caution? WTF?

If I'm understanding the reddit geeks' take, the colder they get it, the more power they have, and this flight will take about everything they've got.

So it's kind of like saying, "I think I've got enough fuel to drive 100 miles, and I only need to go 80, so I SHOULD be fine. But if I wait until tomorrow, the wind will be at my back, so I might as well wait just to be safe."

EDIT: For a more techy hypothesis:

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The electric thrusters can provide about 4 m/s of delta-V per day. So if SES can get 4 m/s more out of the rocket tomorrow, they'll be in service faster than if they launch today. Working out the numbers, that's about 0.1% more fuel. For LOX, a 24 degree K decrease adds 8.9% more fuel. So the break-even point is about 1/4 degree K. So the optimum is launching right at the start of the window, when the fuel is as cold as possible. But if they try and then scrub today, they lose two ways. Launching late in the window doubtless has the oxygen warmed more than 1/4 degree, so it would be better to launch at the beginning of the window tomorrow. But recycling all the warm LOX back into the ground tanks would probably mean they can't get it back down to within a quarter degree of the initial temperature by then.

So SES would probably prefer a beginning of window launch tomorrow to a late in the launch window today. Furthermore they would prefer a pre-load scrub to a post-load scrub. Of course they are playing this against the odds of a much longer possible delay if tomorrow is scrubbed as well. But it's entirely possible the delay is preferred by SES.
http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/ind...408#msg1495408

Scooter LaCanforno 02-25-2016 04:45 PM

Not a cloud in the sky here at the Cape. Hope the wind eases a bit. Should be a nice launch.

DaFace 02-25-2016 04:47 PM

T-1 hour. No whammies!

DaFace 02-25-2016 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Scooter LaCanforno (Post 12099481)
Not a cloud in the sky here at the Cape. Hope the wind eases a bit. Should be a nice launch.

Nice! I need to come down for a launch one of these days. I saw some random one go way back when I was a kid about 20 years ago, but I'd love go catch one of these in person. Especially once they get the F9-Heavy launches going. :D

Donger 02-25-2016 04:52 PM

I'm really excited about this one. Told my clients that I had another engagement and had to leave early. "Where do you have to go, Donger?" "Ummm, it's.... secret."

DaFace 02-25-2016 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 12099489)
I'm really excited about this one. Told my clients that I had another engagement and had to leave early. "Where do you have to go, Donger?" "Ummm, it's.... secret."

Anything about this one in particular that's got you all worked up?

Dave Lane 02-25-2016 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 12098952)
If I'm understanding the reddit geeks' take, the colder they get it, the more power they have, and this flight will take about everything they've got.

So it's kind of like saying, "I think I've got enough fuel to drive 100 miles, and I only need to go 80, so I SHOULD be fine. But if I wait until tomorrow, the wind will be at my back, so I might as well wait just to be safe."

Sorry my comment was directed more at the verbiage. Abundance of caution.

I have an abundance of caution in my pants :)

RINGLEADER 02-25-2016 04:56 PM

Does anyone know the best place to watch live?

Donger 02-25-2016 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 12099492)
Anything about this one in particular that's got you all worked up?

I know some folks from SES.

DaFace 02-25-2016 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by RINGLEADER (Post 12099497)
Does anyone know the best place to watch live?

By "live" do you mean on the internet or in Florida?

DaFace 02-25-2016 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 12099500)
I know some folks from SES.

Ah, cool. Well, best of luck to them. :thumb:


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