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keg in kc 02-28-2020 07:17 PM

I still haven't watched any Discovery past the pilot. Seems like every time I'm about to start watching some other new show streams somewhere.

Mennonite 02-28-2020 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 14817627)
I still haven't watched any Discovery past the pilot. Seems like every time I'm about to start watching some other new show streams somewhere.


I've only watched the pilot and the first episode of season two. Neither really grabbed me.

I haven't watched very much new stuff over the last 15 years or so. I finally got around to watching the first three seasons of Arrested Development last week. I'm a little behind the times.

Mennonite 02-29-2020 07:46 AM

Episode 6 "Nepenthe" was accidentally released in Japan a week early. There are copies streaming out there (I hear) if anyone is interested in getting an early start on the next episode.

007 02-29-2020 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Mennonite (Post 14818205)
Episode 6 "Nepenthe" was accidentally released in Japan a week early. There are copies streaming out there (I hear) if anyone is interested in getting an early start on the next episode.

You mean episode 7

listopencil 02-29-2020 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 14816573)
https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Omicron_Theta

Omicron Theta where Data/Lore were built by Dr. Noonien Soong had two moons.




Something interesting from the wiki:

In the novel Cold Equations: The Persistence of Memory, Doctor Bruce Maddox is contemplating deleting Data's memory engrams from B-4, who is kept in storage along with the remains of Soong's other prototype, Lore, and Lal, Data's daughter, when they are stolen by the Breen. Doctor Soong – who survived his death by transferring his mind into an android body far more Human in appearance than Data's – manages to recover his "children", and transfers Data's memories from B-4 into his own body, unable to complete the new body he had been attempting to construct for his "son".

Mennonite 02-29-2020 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 14818277)
Something interesting from the wiki:

In the novel Cold Equations: The Persistence of Memory, Doctor Bruce Maddox is contemplating deleting Data's memory engrams from B-4, who is kept in storage along with the remains of Soong's other prototype, Lore, and Lal, Data's daughter, when they are stolen by the Breen. Doctor Soong – who survived his death by transferring his mind into an android body far more Human in appearance than Data's – manages to recover his "children", and transfers Data's memories from B-4 into his own body, unable to complete the new body he had been attempting to construct for his "son".


The author of that trilogy is David Mack. I believe he is a consultant for the new Trek shows. He is the same dude who came up with the idea of Control.

The first book in that trilogy is pretty good. Not too crazy about the follow-ups. They all (sorta) spring from a novel called Immortal Coil by Jeffrey Lang. It's very "small universe" but entertaining.

Edit: the writers definitely know about the novels because they are using some stuff from the old Diane Duane Romulan books too. Specifically the fact that they have secret names.

listopencil 02-29-2020 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Mennonite (Post 14818326)
The author of that trilogy is David Mack. I believe he is a consultant for the new Trek shows. He is the same dude who came up with the idea of Control.

The first book in that trilogy is pretty good. Not too crazy about the follow-ups. They all (sorta) spring from a novel called Immortal Coil by Jeffrey Lang. It's very "small universe" but entertaining.

Edit: the writers definitely know about the novels because they are using some stuff from the old Diane Duane Romulan books too. Specifically the fact that they have secret names.


I never got into any of the books at all. I have a collection of favorite sci-fi writers that I have stuck to over the decades and I get all pissy when I come across a writer that doesn't measure up to them in my mind, the flow is just off in my head and I can't enjoy it. To the point that even if it's a good story or idea that interests me I just get too frustrated and put the book back down. So, I'm sure I've missed out on some good stuff over the years. Thanks for tying that in. I had no idea.

Mennonite 02-29-2020 10:20 AM

Most of them are crap, honestly. I'm picky about my reading material most of the time (books usually fit into two categories: "great!" and "a complete waste of time") but for some reason I tend to give Trek novels extra leeway.

David Mack is probably the best of the Trek authors, but he still has his share of stinkers.

Bowser 03-01-2020 11:42 AM

That was a good episode. Nice touch when the sleeping Borg "felt" the presence of Locutus.

And I'm pretty sure Picard and Soji went to go see Numbah Wan. Picard needs allies right now.

Donger 03-01-2020 12:36 PM

So, as a huge TNG fan, is this worth watching?

Hammock Parties 03-01-2020 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 14819710)
So, as a huge TNG fan, is this worth watching?

Yes. It's ****ing amazing.

It's like someone took TNG and turned it into DS9.

Donger 03-01-2020 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14819727)
Yes. It's ****ing amazing.

It's like someone took TNG and turned it into DS9.

I've never watched any of the other ST series, so that means nothing to me.

But thanks.

Jamie 03-01-2020 01:16 PM

I would also say yes, but less enthusiastically. It's not close to DS9 (which to me is the best Trek series), it's more like Insurrection with swearing and graphic violence. But maybe a little better than that sounds.

Mennonite 03-01-2020 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 14819767)
I've never watched any of the other ST series, so that means nothing to me.

But thanks.




Not even TOS?!

Donger 03-01-2020 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamie (Post 14819785)
I would also say yes, but less enthusiastically. It's not close to DS9 (which to me is the best Trek series), it's more like Insurrection with swearing and graphic violence. But maybe a little better than that sounds.

Thanks.


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