Originally Posted by Bwana (Post 17401325)

As long as they bring along the George Brett statue, so the ass kicking can continue, it's all good!


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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17401703)

I see the one block of Grand where there's Cigar Box, a Ramen place, Kobe Q, Prime Bar... am I missing anything?

Originally Posted by Woogieman (Post 17401808)

I'm confused...many are calling downtown a dangerous shithole, but also lament the bars and restaurants that will be replaced. Weird...

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 17401675)

There was nothing there north of I-70 then. I had no problem with the arena, other than the tax abatements and corporate chain restaurants and bars that have nothing to do with KC dominating everything and funnelling all of the money out of the city. It stands as a huge missed opportunity.

This plan has all of the same actors, with the added goat**** of destroying a KC success story to replace it with another round of tax abatements and corporate chain bullshit funnelling the money out of the city again.

This isn't progress, it's a grift.

Originally Posted by DJJasonp (Post 17401730)

yep.

Anyone who's ever been afraid of a downtown park should visit Petco.

Easy in/easy out. unlimited food and drink options within walking distance.

It's perfect.

And c'mon man....."but I tailgate at baseball games....". Really?

Originally Posted by Woogieman (Post 17401808)

I'm confused...many are calling downtown a dangerous shithole, but also lament the bars and restaurants that will be replaced. Weird...

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 17401823)

Yup Crossroads is one of the few areas that isn't watered down bullshit. All this talk about how stadiums bring development yet the area around the stadiums never developed and they avoided moving to the East Village. Why? Because development wouldn't take off.

Originally Posted by BlackHelicopters (Post 17401850)

What’s wrong with Kaufman?

Originally Posted by BlackHelicopters (Post 17401850)

What’s wrong with Kaufman?

Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17401731)

I'm not a huge fan of P&L and would much rather go a bit south.... I think Lucky Strike is the only place I've ever had a decent drink (and I think that's gone now). Howl at the Moon is fun. Flying Saucer down the street was nice when it was there.

I'd probably stick with the more local stuff, too near the ballpark.. or at least less touristy/bland/better priced places..

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 17401869)

Well, better take a Saturday night in the Crossroads this spring before it's all gone. If you did, you'd understand how monumentally stupid this plan is.

Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brioni (Post 17401165)

Stupid. Who the **** wants to go to these third world down towns any more?

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 17401892)

I hate people and traffic. Get off my ****ing lawn... I'll watch from home.

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 17401918)

Third base at the new stadium
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Originally Posted by Gary Cooper (Post 17401845)

Why not the West Bottoms?

That area has lots of space and is underused. Plus, many buildings that are eyesores.

It also has that sexy view of skyscrapers in the background these modern baseball stadiums are looking for.

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 17401869)

Well, better take a Saturday night in the Crossroads this spring before it's all gone. If you did, you'd understand how monumentally stupid this plan is.

Originally Posted by Woogieman (Post 17401808)

I'm confused...many are calling downtown a dangerous shithole, but also lament the bars and restaurants that will be replaced. Weird...

Originally Posted by BlackHelicopters (Post 17401850)

What’s wrong with Kaufman?

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 17401918)

Third base at the new stadium
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GGUYTDZX...g&name=900x900

Originally Posted by nychief (Post 17402006)

Jesus Christ... it's a couple old bars, a strip club and some shitty Ramen places, they aren't tearing down Greenwich Village or Montmartre. They will all get a boatload of money and move somewhere...

Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 17401905)

Isn’t this just gentrification anyways?

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17401876)

The Royals probably don't give a ****...

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 17401918)

Third base at the new stadium
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GGUYTDZX...g&name=900x900

Originally Posted by DJJasonp (Post 17401737)

Can't think of one corporate chain surrounding Petco Park.......matter of fact, the one I can recall (tilted kilt) went out of business.

plenty of small businesses around too.

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 17401918)

Third base at the new stadium
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GGUYTDZX...g&name=900x900

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 17401869)

Well, better take a Saturday night in the Crossroads this spring before it's all gone. If you did, you'd understand how monumentally stupid this plan is.

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17401901)

You should move to a tiny town in the middle of nowhere, it takes care of both those.

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 17401638)

I have no idea what you're talking about unless by 'shithole' you mean corporate chain restaurants and bars in the P and L.

The business district part of downtown is your normal stuff.

This stadium going in south of I-70 will be destroying a very hip, happening arts/music/brewery/restaurant district full of life. Nothing shitty about it.

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17401891)

You obviously haven't been downtown in at least two decades

Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brioni (Post 17402973)

Oof poor timing. B Willie strikes again with the dumbassery

Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 17403217)

Need a Glock day give away. Protect yourself.

Originally Posted by Bob Dole (Post 17403248)

It’s an obvious pattern at this point. Grade A Moron.

Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17402063)

Meh, I'll worry about stuff that's blocks away when it actually disappears forever... not going to pre-worry about stuff on Main Street or even west of that until it's actually all turned into Famous Dave's and Olive Gardens.

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17403302)

Dude he called downtown Kansas City a third world country. I think there is a disconnect. The P&L area and actual downton area is very affluent. Its expensive. The Paseo, Eastern urban neighborhoods are the problem spots. If you have paying events like concerts, sporting events etc its not usually an issue but free, large gatherings due to sheer proximity it becomes and issue. Thats why you hear about issues at the plaza of alot of these youths gathering etc. Its why they used to block off Westport..or used to not sure what they do now.

Originally Posted by comochiefsfan (Post 17403358)

Busch Stadium is in downtown St. Louis.

An absolute hell hole of a downtown. FAR worse than downtown KC.

Yet in the dozens of Cardinals games I’ve been to over the years, including GASP night games, I’ve never once felt unsafe walking to and from the stadium. Never had a problem finding parking. Never had a problem with traffic postgame.

Downtown is where baseball belongs. I get that it’s new and there are questions and it’s replacing an iconic stadium for Royals fans. But I think you’re going to like the new park in the long run.

Originally Posted by Bob Dole (Post 17403794)

Are you and BWllie married?

Originally Posted by Eleazar (Post 17401931)

That’s the only place the current Royals lineup could get to first base :doh!:

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 17403256)

Glock Day At The K has a nice ring to it.

Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brioni (Post 17403808)

Considering the area around Busch is a pile of filth growing more dangerous and absolutely disgusting overflowing with bums and trash by the year...I'd say yes. These boys love trash, vagrants, gangs, being mugged, car stolen, and gun violence I guess

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 17401830)

Cool, except this isn't an ugly unused area. It's a thriving bunch of locally owned businesses that all built the cultural heart of the city together without any outside interference.

There are ugly unused areas. Put it there and I wouldn't squawk

Originally Posted by Warpaint69 (Post 17403870)

I view downtown Denver in that sort of decline. Was so many homeless downtown until the Governor moved them out due to the NBA Finals. I've not been back downtown recently, but between the homeless and the illegals what could ever go wrong....

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17404110)

America is a lovely place, "OMG homeless people,can we like kill them or something"

Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 17404118)

It's a nice idea. 9/10 times, homeless aren't these poor souls just down on their luck. They're scumbags that chose drugs/alcohol/violence/insanity over fitting into normal society.

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17404123)

Eesh

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17404110)

America is a lovely place, "OMG homeless people,can we like kill them or something"

Originally Posted by nychief (Post 17404145)

here we go.

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17404146)

Gotta second this. Busch was a fantastic experience the only time I've been and the immediate surrounding area (Ballpark Village?) is super nice.

Originally Posted by Warpaint69 (Post 17403870)

I view downtown Denver in that sort of decline. Was so many homeless downtown until the Governor moved them out due to the NBA Finals. I've not been back downtown recently, but between the homeless and the illegals what could ever go wrong....

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 17404171)

Yep. Love Busch Stadium, it's the reason why I want a downtown stadium for the Royals.

Originally Posted by comochiefsfan (Post 17403358)

Busch Stadium is in downtown St. Louis.

An absolute hell hole of a downtown. FAR worse than downtown KC.

Yet in the dozens of Cardinals games I’ve been to over the years, including GASP night games, I’ve never once felt unsafe walking to and from the stadium. Never had a problem finding parking. Never had a problem with traffic postgame.

Downtown is where baseball belongs. I get that it’s new and there are questions and it’s replacing an iconic stadium for Royals fans. But I think you’re going to like the new park in the long run.

Originally Posted by nychief (Post 17404145)

here we go.

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17402044)

I'll be pretty happy to get that stirp club outta there.

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17404146)

Gotta second this. Busch was a fantastic experience the only time I've been and the immediate surrounding area (Ballpark Village?) is super nice.

Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 17404233)

Petco Park in San Diego is downtown and it's pretty awesome. Tropicana Field is next to downtown St Pete but there's a ton of bars and restaurants across the street.

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 17404775)

Don't chase good money after bad. Sinking money into a stadium for a dying sport couldn't be any clearer an example of "bad money."

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 17404850)

Man, that Hampton Inn and Suites at 16th and Main is gonna get even MORE expensive.

Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 17405287)

Just wait 20 years until all of the hardcore baseball fans are dead and the Royals are on year 27 of under .500 baseball. The place will be HOPPING

Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 17405287)

Just wait 20 years until all of the hardcore baseball fans are dead and the Royals are on year 27 of under .500 baseball. The place will be HOPPING

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 17404775)

Don't chase good money after bad. Sinking money into a stadium for a dying sport couldn't be any clearer an example of "bad money."