I try not to dwell on the intangibles, but I can’t take Josh Allen serious after his AFCCG tantrum.

He looked like shit and pouted about it. Damn near started a brawl too.

Compare that Mahomes’s first AFCCG. One is a leader, the other is a toddler.

He had the ball, down 22-17, with 5 minutes left and all the momentum after Henne’s interception. Chubb rushed for a first down then Cleveland went three downs and punt. Baker has his chance for a GW drive and came up well short

He didn’t figure out anything.

I just wanna say too, Tampa did us a huge ass favor wasting their 2nd on Kyle Trask.

Reminds me of when Pitt took Mason Rudolph.

Buffalo added two good pass rushers I like in the draft in Rousseau and Basham, which could really help their D.

Sounds like there's a real chance that Denver is getting Rodgers. Some are saying it's practically a done deal.

The Chiefs were up 22-10 on the Browns (should have been 25-10 if Butker didn’t miss a 33 yard FG) before Mahomes got injured.

Yawnnnnn.

That one makes zero sense to me.

No one would blame them if they just go all in while they have Brady. Might as well squeeze as much out of him as you can while you have him.

Josh Allen scares me a bit because he atleast has the ability to make things happen. Baker is Alex Smith.

We hopefully will mitigate that by having a top 5 offensive line...

They needed to draft those guys because Ed Oliver is going to be a bust and the veterans they paid all that money to are underachieving.

They also spent a 2nd on Epenesa last year and for some weird reason told him to lose all this weight when he is a player that wins with power.

They are spooging all over it down here in the bay area. One, because he's a Gator, and two, they think they now have an heir to perpetuate a dynasty.

Trask threw like 10 interceptions and looked like shit in Florida’s bowl game when most of his offensive weapons opted out and didn’t play.

That’s a preview of what’s to come in his NFL future when he eventually plays and Tampa will be in a tear down mode post-Brady IMO.

My son just graduated UF, I've watched most of their games, and I completely agree.

Just some media tards talking who WANT it to happen.

Don’t sleep on the Chargers.

Although their head coach is a unknown factor.

The thing about it is, the team can get better, but if the QB regresses then the team regresses. It's very rare to see a young QB to take a step back and have the team be more successful from their draft picks. If Josh Allen or Baker Mayfield take a step back, then they won't reach the records they did this year. I wouldn't bet on Baker for anything, just like Phillip Rivers without the fantasy points and records to back it up.

It wasn't just a 4 man rush.

It was the combination of an excellent scheme and an excellent front four. I'm sure Mahomes has played against a D using halves but the rush was getting there so quick he didn't seem able to read it in time for most of the game...

I could see them as legit challengers this year.

Then again they'll probably just have 3 season ending injuries to key players like they do every year...

The talent is there to compete. But who knows about a first time head coach?

Hiring Bienemy was a no-brainer for them.

They weaken the enemy, gain a good offensive mind that players respect, and he knows everything about a division rival.

Thank God they didn't...

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Kiper is constantly wrong. He's even worse than meteorologists.

ROFL

I wonder if this is because he liked all of the AFC West drafts except the Raiders.

ROFL

The forecast in Vegas both in and out of the stadium is hellish

I really don't want Denver to pick up Rodgers.

I agree that Kiper isn't great, but how "bad" are you suggesting meteorologists are?

Have to mention the entire front 7, because those linebackers were nasty.

The Broncos had basically the same, awful odds the Raiders had to win the AFC Championship just before the Denver-Rodgers rumors started. Chiefs are still pretty healthy favorites, as this article says.

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Denver would be worst case scenario for Rodgers but Miami isn’t much better. They too are a good QB away from being heavyweight contenders.

You add Brown to the Chiefs draft, since he was traded for picks, and KC's grade is an A.

I know but I haven’t seen an expert give them credit for that.

They won't. Rodgers is using them as a bargaining chip.

If the Broncos get Aaron Rodgers the Chiefs gap will certainly closed a great deal and AFCW would be up for grabs. DEN has a lot of talent that would end up playing up to their potential, much the same way those Manning DEN teams did. HoF QB's have that ability.

Pat Shurmur can't coach his way out of a paper bag and their head coach hasn't had a winning season yet.

Their defense is aging and their starting right tackle is out for the year.

They might be able to win 10 games with Rodgers but they're not challenging for the AFC Championship.

Yeah well.....having a MVP-level Aaron Rodgers usually masks all of that.

I wouldn't go as far as calling their D aging. Von Miller is the one aging, but he can still be effective when healthy.

Now I will admit, DEN doesn't have any depth (anywhere..at all) so once/if their players start getting inj, not sure even Rodgers can mask that.

La Canfora saying something nice about the Chiefs?

What’s the catch?

Include the NFC. A healthy Chiefs team gets beat by nobody. (With the exception of the Rams who got Stafford. They got better.)

If we stay healthy and this line plays to it's potential, a team will have to score 40 to have any chance...

I also think the “experts” don’t fully analyze the situation and how the additions will actually impact the team. I think most of them look at the quality of the players added and assign grades as such.

Creating this elite level offensive line for Mahomes is more important than the individuals players who were added. This same OL for another team might not be as impactful, because most QBs have significantly lower ceilings.

Mahomes essentially has no ceiling. When he’s held in check, it’s almost always due to something out of his control. Give him an elite OL, a good young running back, Hill/Kelce, and several other solid weapons...good luck.

You can’t convince me the draft picks resulting in Brown, Humphrey, Smith, Grey, and even Powell aren’t an A when you have Mahomes. That doesn’t even count the defensive players drafted.

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And losing Sammie will have no impact on that.

To see what our production would be like without him we can look back to 50% of the games played the last 3 years...

Well, they gave us a better game than Baltimore the last 2 meetings...

Honestly, the guy completely loses all credibility with this statement. Cable is a noted zone blocking coach, and integrates a ton of zone blocking in with the power blocking scheme.

Add in that Leatherwood's strength per every single draft analysis I've seen is his power in the run game, and that guy is left with no credibility.

I'd put my money on Herbert being the new Rivers. Making mistakes at the worst times and losing games they should have won.

That was Herbert's MO in college, and he pretty much continued the trend as a rookie in the NFL.

I think KC kills them with a healthy Mahomes the 2nd half. KC had the game in control with Mahomes.

Don't know about that. I think he'll be special. He was pretty darn good last season with no TC or anything. He got an emergency start week 2 and never looked back. He's the 2nd best QB in the division right now after only one season.

Once they’re forced to abandon the run, Baker would’ve pressed and thrown 3 picks

He absolutely LOVED the biggest bust in the history of NFL drafts in JaWallurus Russell.

Enough said.

No one is a real threat to a healthy KC team.

Even when he played he was still injured half the time and didn't produce shit.

We’d all probably agree that there is some level of need at DE, WR, and CB.

I think we get Mathieu extended to open up some cap space and potentially use that on a DE (Ingram?). I’d probably just sign Breeland to another 1-year deal since he’s familiar with the system.

WR is the spot I’m most comfortable with what we have, albeit still not a ton. Putting faith in one of these receivers not named Tyreek to make the most of an opportunity. Nate Taylor says the plan is for Noah Gray to give Kelce breathers here and there throughout the season so he is fresh for the final run, and we’ve got a guy who can do that for Tyreek too in Hardman.

I’m on the CEH bandwagon expecting him to just absolutely crush it this year behind the new OL and with another offseason under his belt. Just need to get our studs to the playoff finish line and there’s no reason KC shouldn’t be playing in February once again.

I pretty much agree. I'm fine with WR with the line we have, I'm even fine with CB, but adding Breeland on the skinny would be good. When you look at edge/DE, I don't think we are any worse than last year, and have potentially more upside, a cheap Ingram rental would be OK, but not needed. This offense is going back to 2018-2019 and if this defense treads water, or is slightly worse, we are most likely still playing in Feb.

Im pretty amazed that they havent addressed the CB position. Hopefully BV has some cards up his sleeve

The more Trey Smith video I watch, the more I'm amazed at how mean that gigantic dude plays. And that was before free-falling in the draft. He's gonna have a huge chip on his shoulder. Could turn out to be the steal of the entire draft.

Same with Creed, two great picks...

It would be unfair to the NFL if Mitchell Schwartz came back healthy/full strength etc.

Brown, Thuney, Creed, Long, Schwartz (<== best OL in the NFL)

Smith, Blythe, LDT as your backup IOL, Niang as the backup ST. (I'm not sold on Remmers...at all. After the SB I wanted his ass gone). Would be better off with Niang or Long at RT with Smith at RG if Long were to move outside.

I hate to say it, but if Schwartz is healthy, he may end up a Cheating Donk.

I would approve.

Of which part would you agree with-the Cheating donk part or getting Schwartz?

It’s a good day, I’ll go with both...

Something called Touchdown Wire has the Chiefs ranked 6th in the NFL after the draft. Behind the Chargers, Bills and Ravens in the AFC. LOL

They’re no worse than 2nd to the Bucs.

ROFL

“Our football scientists analyzed each roster with a complicated metric you dipshit readers can’t understand and assigned a score for those teams on paper most likely to generate buzz for our fledgling online football shithole that nobody has heard of. Here’s what the scores revealed...”

Not the AFC, but the Bucs had the least injuries in the league last year.

They’re due for a regression.

Makes no sense... We got considerably better in the offseason...

This offseason was the OLine overhaul - next offseason will be CB...

In today's NFL, if you aren't Jalen Ramsey, I don't know the difference between a decent CB and a good one is much. The rules just don't allow you to be physical.

Build the front 7 and get adequate CB's.

It will be interesting to see how little playing time Mike Remmers gets in camp. I think he is the known quantity among Niang, Long and LDT. If he starts to get pre-season time, that means they have made their mind up on the others. I think Allegretti is in a better place than Remmers.

Remmers was guaranteed $3.3M.

He's the swing tackle at worst.

FYP.

Certainly you'd like better than adequate but they at least should be cheap.

In theory though, I agree. Draft your CB's, play them early, and then let them go if they're terrible or get too expensive. Draft some more and repeat the cycle.

Exactly. Just keep doing what they've been doing. If your front 7 is legit, the back just needs to be smart and adequate.

Defense these days is more about having 11 guys who are atleast adequate and functional and play together. It's too hard to cover a huge hole.

AFC East: Unanimous for Bills to repeat

Buffalo made the AFC Championship Game last season, and the Bills are another of three unanimous picks to win their division in 2021. Being picked to finish 12-5 would be down a peg from 13-3 a year ago, but still in line for a first-round bye in the AFC playoffs. The Patriots, perhaps playing with a rookie quarterback in Alabama’s Mac Jones, finished behind the Dolphins, who will have quarterback Tua Tagovailoa in his second season after a 10-6 record last year. The Jets, despite a new coach in Robert Saleh, were picked to finish last in three of four ballots, perhaps a nod to playing a rookie quarterback in BYU’s Zach Wilson.


AFC North: Close call between Browns, Ravens

The only overall tie out of eight divisions is here in the AFC North, with Cleveland and Baltimore, both fresh off 11-5 seasons, expected to surpass the defending champion Steelers. Pittsburgh finished no higher than third on any ballot, behind the Bengals on one, while the Ravens and Browns evenly split the top two spots for all four voters.

Pittsburgh arguably has the most difficult schedule in the NFL, with 10 games against playoff teams from last season. And between the Ravens and Browns, an easier schedule could help Cleveland, which gets to face the Texans, Patriots and Cardinals on a third-place schedule, while Baltimore faces the Colts, Dolphins and Rams, considerably more difficult.


AFC South: Colts edge Titans for first

The Titans and Colts had matching 11-5 records last year and both lost in the wild-card round, but the Colts were picked as the team to beat with a strong supporting cast around new quarterback Carson Wentz. Tennessee is harder to peg, getting a first-place vote but also one third, with our Texans writer picking the shiny-new Jaguars to finish ahead of them.

The Texans, with lingering uncertainty surrounding their lone remaining star in quarterback Deshaun Watson, were one of two teams picked unanimously to finish last, along with the Lions.


AFC West: Chiefs unanimous to win again

Kansas City has been to back-to-back Super Bowls, and while they lost convincingly to the Bucs in Tampa, they’ve rebuilt their offensive line to better protect quarterback Patrick Mahomes. As such, they’re no surprise to be one of three teams picked as unanimous division champs, along with the Bills and Bucs.

The rest of the division is a blur, with the Chargers and second-year quarterback Justin Herbert getting the nod over the Broncos, who would have Teddy Bridgewater at quarterback if they aren’t able to wrangle Rodgers from the Packers. Denver got a second-place vote but also two last-place nods, while the Raiders finished no higher than third on any ballot.

IMO, KC and Cleveland are better than all mentioned.

People way over valuing the Chargers as usual, and sleeping on the Raiders. Raiders will be 2nd in the AFCW.

The Dolphins or the Patriots could knock off the Bills.

Josh Allen ain't perfect yet. Lamar had a let down season. Entirely possible for Allen to go back to being inconsistent. If that happens, the door is wide open.

Bet not. Bet the Chargers take 2nd. Raiders 3rd or 4th. Toss up between them and the Cheating Donx for last.