Veach is getting the DL some good depth.

I also think this is an example of Veach signing and drafting players that will respect and want to play with the leaders on this team. Look at what every DB said about going to the Chiefs, can't wait to play with HB. Same here with Frank Clark. And this isn't a coincidence, I think Veach looks for this.

Hard to hate this. I’ve missed having a taco more than anything else these past 2 months.

:facepalm:

@TheRealFrankC_: He will be legend I promise that. [emoji2958] https://twitter.com/TheRealFrankC_/s...975233/photo/1

That’s why we signed him. Frank will take him under his wing

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Over/under on Speaks being traded?

**** yeah.

Lowkey a huge signing, potentially.

Not tradeable. He hasn't played enough. Anyway he could be a good role player. Remember that time he was gonna sack Brady and decided not to. He's nice like that.

Agreed.

And there will be some competition and presumably depth at DE, which is invaluable.

Waiting for Veach to pull the trigger on an experienced CB before the season starts, as I can’t see this team going with only 3 experienced CB’s, with one being Breeland.

Yeah, presumably they vetted the decision with Frank. If Frank gave him the nod, Frank will keep him in line.

With no off season workouts and presumably pushed back TC... we shouldn't expect much from any of the rookies, save the running back. Meaning the michigan kid we drafted will have a hard time making the team.

I wouldn't be surprised if we scrap heap another vet DB later in the summer.

Depends if Bill O'Brien is still the coach/GM by that point.

Just go to taco bell or taco John's or the grocery store. No one is preventing you from buying/making tacos.

I wouldn’t trade any of our DL. Depth is a good thing with the way we play.

I’d hate to see us lose multiple guys to injuries and have to make a move. We’re in a great position along the DL. We have like 9 legit players in that group.

I trust Veachy, but I can't shake the feeling that a Gordita would perform better.

FAX

So I’ve had two thoughts rolling around in my head since this signing.

1. Does Speaks fit the type of DE that Spags is looking for?

2. How many defensive linemen did we have last year?

I wonder if Speaks could be moving to more of a DE/DT hybrid.

This fancy speak for cut?

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A guy like that needs a place where he doesn’t feel like he’s special. We are the new and improved Patriots.

These 1 year deals will be turning into draft picks. Veach.

Frank Clark
Alex Okafor - Could be released but would have $4 M to $6 M of dead money. 2019 - 22 tackles, 5 sacks in 10 games.
Tanoh Kpassagnon - 1 year on contract, $1.3 M, 2019 - 29 tackles, 4 sacks. Maybe trade if we got some real good value for him.
Breeland Speaks- Two years on contract. A post June 1 trade/cut would still have $629,185 of dead money. 2018 - 24 tackles, 1.5 sack, 2 FR
Demone Harris - 1 yr $750,000. 2019 - 4 tackles in 4 games.
Michael Danna - 5th round pick.
Tim Ward - 2019 NFI
Taco Charlton

It seems like it will be a tough go for Taco making the final roster.

I feel a lot better about our DL now. Okafor’s injury is not easy to recover from and he’s a bit of a broke dick anyway.

Still want us to go all in on a DE and DT in the draft next year

Even BOB wouldn’t give up a bag of dicks.

Speaks will get a chance to contribute, I think.

If we get Chris Jones his multi-year extension (which by all accounts is the route we're going so we can lower his cap hit in the current year) why would we need to go all in at DT? We'd still have Nnadi under contract until the end of the 2021-2022 season. Saunders is here for another year after Nnadi. Chris Jones is a mega-star, Nnadi is a very good starter, and Saunders didn't get his shit pushed in this season and has upside to be almost as good as Jones in the future.

Sure, if a DT is our best option at a particular point in the draft, then take him, but there's absolutely zero reason for us to make DT a specific position we need to target and rebuild. And I recognize that for as much as Spags loves rotating his linemen, it's more important to us than other teams that we're at least 4-deep at DT. Still, for our 4th DT, it's much less important that we go "all in" on that position, particularly because it's ideal that the 4th guy be a Mike Pennel type who is more effective at clogging running lanes than applying an interior pass rush, and those players are a bit easier to find as depth.

And speaking of Pennel, we don't know how many of these guys Veach can convince to just keep sticking around on recurring 1-year deals. Some of them are apparently just fine with it.

I keep looking back to how much our pass rushers dropped off when Jones was out and Frank was hurt.

All these teams trying to copy us getting weapons wouldn’t have time for them to get open if we had another stud up front. It’s just another added benefit.

Imagine if we had the pass rush talent up front that was similar to the 49ers for the next 4 years? Jesus man just imagine that with this offense? We would be unbeatable

Nah.

Especially if Speaks is traded and Okefor starts on PUP.

Where the **** do you guys get that Speaks might be traded?

LMAO

Yeah, that makes no sense whatsoever.

Who is trading for a guy that didn't fit the 3-4 and was injured last season?

Teams can't perform physicals, which would be required for any player coming off a lost season.

Furthermore, Speaks is going nowhere. The Chiefs have already invested more than $3.5 million in him and haven't had the chance to see what that investment brings.

Yeah! dumb****s!



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Please ban all dumb****s from this thread!

I think Speaks is going to look good this season. I watched some of the Pats game from 2018 and he flashed quite a bit.

I have all the faith in the world in our D coordinators.

KPass looked good last year. I think he keeps developing but he’s not going to be here after next year because I expect there to be a decent market for him. Now we just need to see the same with Speaks. I thought he showed signs in his rookie year. And while that missed sack of Brady suck, it was at a time when the NFL was all sorts of flag happy.


If Speaks is just decent, it will help the Chiefs a lot.

Speaks is lazy so I have no faith in him being worth much. Hopefully he proves me wrong. Also coming off injury and quarantine, that dude gonna report at 437lbs.

Speaks will for sure get some snaps with Okafor and inside on passing downs.

If KPass plays decently AT ALL, he's going to get bank. Dude is a physical freak and insanely smart.

Based off of one training camp picture.

I love all the CP GMs who would trade away all their players on rookie contracts if they were not all-pros. I mean not everyone can be Pat Mahomes!

Yep. Enjoy him while we can. And eventually get a nice compensatory pick out of the deal.

He's 6-7, 290 and looks skinny. If he puts on 20 lbs of muscle, he'll be a monster.

Chiefs kept 10 DL last year including Attacho or whatever it was. There is a opening if they like him more than Harris and Ward and it’s hard to imagine his upside alone doesn’t beat those other two out. If he doesn’t make the final roster it will because the staff doesn’t find his attitude worth it like Mark Fields last year.

Speaks is worth trying this year but I can’t help but feel like he’s already a bust and that won’t change.

He showed up to camp overweight and even admitted he was a fat lazy **** in the offseason. That’s a huge red flag.

Hope he proves me wrong

Yup just what I said, Speaks should be Mahomes.

Five for the roster:

Clark
Okafor
Kpassagnon
Charlton
Danna

Try to trade, then practice squad:

Harris

Try to trade, then cut:

Speaks

Cut:

Ward

And I do want to mention that this is another reason I hate the Danna pick.

Demone Harris is super tough against the run, with starter upside if he can get a pass rush developed — and he’s super young. He helped us win a Super Bowl.

We have to risk practice squadding or cutting him to make roster space for Danna, a guy who isn’t as good a fit for the position and also has no pass rush.

Just a terrible pick and we’re going to lose a cheap year of Demone Harris.

Completely agree with this.

I really thought they would have went WR or DB in that spot.

Nobody should ever be this mad about a late 5th round pick.

Much less the UDFA he may or may not even be competing for a position with.

Maybe 10, but maybe 9 on DL. They have to pick from the following players -

16) DL –
#55 DE Frank Clark 1
#95 DT/DE Chris Jones 2
#91 DT Derrick Nnadi 3
#99 DT Khalen Saunders 4
#92 DE/DT Tanoh Kpassagnon 5
#64 DT Mike Pennel 6
#52 Demone Harris ????
#96 Braxton Hoyett
#93 Devaroe Lawrence
#79 Tim Ward
#97 DE Alex Okafor 7
#57 DE Breeland Speaks 8
#90 DE Anthony Lanier - Already been cut? He was on team a few days ago.
DE Michael Danna 9
DE Taco Charlton 10
DE Tershawn Wharton - Practice squad?

Perhaps Alex Okafor won't be ready at the beginning of the season?

You’re beyond ****ing stupid.

First off, like Busby said who the **** gets this upset about a 5th round pick?

Also, it’s easy to see why they drafted him when you go back and look at all the East West Shrine week stuff and watch the game. Dude was unblockable (all week apparently) and looked a lot more like the guy at Central Michigan that could get after QB. The weight gain and late start clearly impacted his performance at Michigan.

Imagine thinking there’s just no way that Danna might actually be better than Demone ****ing Harris

:facepalm:

You are truly an amazing case.

You've been posting horseshit like this for nearly 15 ****ing years. You create "Mock Drafts" constantly, at the start of the season, mid-season, end season and dozens of offseason versions yet, Good ****ing GOD! you're completely clueless about the NFL, about personnel and just haven't learned a single thing during that time.

If I didn't know better, I'd think you're a troll but sadly, that just isn't the case.

Get a grip, dude, get a ****ing grip.

Veach is god damned tactician. A roster surgeon. Mahomes is a damn FA magnet.

LMAO

I’m in complete agreement, Veach probably doesn’t take him if Clark’s not here... extremely savvy roster building

All these guys have ready made mentors they respect in place, add in a class act coaching staff and they’re all set to thrive here

Don't you think if the Chiefs like Demone Harris and he's worth keeping, they'll find a way to keep him?

If he plays better than Taco Charlton, why wouldn't they keep Harris over Charlton? If Danna is as big of a piece of shit as you think he is and Harris is great, why would they practice squad Harris?

Yes, great players on great teams get cut before the regular season all the time. It's also true that guys whose roster spots were thought to be safe get taken by random training camp invites who just simply played better or showed more potential. It happens all the time. Very rarely do you see coaches (particularly on this staff) go, "We think we have a better chance of winning games if we keep Player X over Player Y, but we DID spend a draft pick on Player Y, sooo.... let's hope Player X makes it through to our practice squad!"

Is Quesadilla Johnson is available?

Guarantee you havent even seen the guy play before. Really dumb post.

Billay would lick its ASS

Thumbs down is worse than neg rep. It can lead to a post being hidden.

That’s why I always thumbs down your worthless ass posts, bitch!!!

Mmm tacos.

The Taco is ready

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I didn’t read the entire thread so I have no idea if this was said already but we should see if RNR is available to come back. Having a nacho and taco on the DL seems like a good thing.

That's cool! Determined and all IN!

Good signing. These are the types of players you can bring in when you have a fantastic coaching staff and great leadership on the roster.

Because Mahomes

TACO GRANDE! http://youtu.be/mX18yNwqnMg

I like it when my team wins Super Bowls.

My team had to win a Super Bowl despite losing THREE DEs, so we needed that depth from Harris to win.

He’s fantastic against the run, but needs a ton of coaching up for his passrush.

Fortunately, he’s super young.

If folks can get jacked up about a 5th round pick, it’s equally logical they can be disappointed by it. I trust the coaching staff, but this has all the makings of a Breeland Speaks/Dorian O’Daniel mess.

His tape at Michigan was decent at best.

There’s literally nothing substantial here for me to reply to.

Seek help.

I think Charlton is farther along with his passrush repertoire than Harris is, so I think he’s higher on the totem pole.

If Danna is as underwhelming as I think he is, I still think they cut/trade/squad Harris to make room for him. An NFL roster is not a pure meritocracy— often times teams will keep a draft pick on a roster because he’s a draft pick.

Direkshuns whore mother...?

Clark, Okafor, Kpass, Taco, Harris. That’s pretty damn good at DE.

As for Danna, I think he’s battling Ward for a PS position.

I'm ****ing horny now!

I think the signing is a good one and he has lots of untapped potential, but the highlights are a bit underwhelming. They include:

Getting a sack by being completely unblocked on a passing down against the Giants
Alex Smith / Deshaun Watson both getting themselves sacked
Watching a 2nd or 3rd string TE get wrecked for the Chargers.

Was barely able to get a chub from that.

I agree with the first sentence. That’d be a very solid lineup.

I doubt the Chiefs put Danna on the PS. I think it was Veach who said another team wanted Danna, and I think they want to protect their investment.

Daly seems to love him, too. I think he’s a lock for the 53, which puts guys like Speaks and Harris on the outs now that Taco’s in house.

It does show that he is perhaps the most athletic DE on the roster with fantastic size. It shows him winning legit passrush reps.

I think it’s a killer signing that has the makings of Ogbah 2.0.