He looked good today, showed more speed than i remember.

that's the thing, yip!

He looks a little leaner. He's always going to be a bruiser, but you need a guy like that.

I liked him last year and am glad he's getting some PT.

I could see a 'thunder and lightning' thing with he and Thompson in the future.

McCoy has definitely got a little left in the tank, and sharing time may very well extend his career further.

Eagles were without their top 2 WR as well...

The Lions are your typical NE disciple team, they're all about being big and physical and playing the run. Running up the middle will probably be a horrid idea against them but at the same token, they're big and slow.

Oh shit!! Represent and have a blast!!

Darius Slay and Mike Daniels both could be questionable for the game.

I think Matt Stafford's career is a travesty.

I think he's the best QB on the most pathetic team over the span of his career in the NFL.

He's just gotten hammered, and yet instead of getting gun-shy and folding like a David Carr, he still just hangs in there.

I think he's tough as hell and still has one of the best arms in the league. Mentally tough, too.

But, as it's been said, not the most mobile guy. He's an old-school pocket QB.

Hockenson is a rising star TE. I honestly don't know much about their WR's this year.

All I know is that I would've heavily invested in the offensive line years ago and the Lions haven't.

Shit, i just looked up their drafts and they haven't drafted a single offensive lineman in like four years.

****ing ridiculous. If were Stafford, I'd be forcing my way out of there.

Huh? They’ve drafted and developed almost their entire OL.

Decker and Ragnow were both 1st round picks. Dahl was a 5th and Glasgow was a 2nd.

I think Patricia will have a good defensive game plan - but we've got too many weapons to be held in check for long. Regardless this game can only benefit Mahomes as he goes against a New England style defense. The more these coordinators throw at him - the more dangerous he becomes.

Kerryon Johnson and TJ Hockenson were nice adds on offense, but it doesn’t seem like they’ve taken off. They scored 27 points but 7 of those were a return on ST’s.

Their pass rush isn’t that great either. Eagles had guys wide open a lot of the time last week.

This seems like a game that is close for awhile in the first half and then we pull away.

38-24 type game

They are much better than last year on defense. We have much more offensive power.

Thank God CBS is picking up the bears/vikes this week. Fox gets the single and they would've showed that here. Not a given that we will see the Chiefs, but I think we will.

You're right.

I glanced quickly and missed 2016.

They looked good in that game man. Their defense has been overhauled, their front 4 is nasty.

Buuuuuuuuttttt....Mike Daniels was spotted in crutches, so that’s a big hit right there. Slay’s status is up in the air too it seems. They still have Flowers and Harrison who are beasts, and Patrica is hit or miss but their D has been pretty tough overall. Gave up 34 combined to P Riv and Wentz. Not bad, not bad.

Mayyyy be tough sledding running the ball. Lions run D is definitely better than the ****ing Raiders and they obliterated our run game. Hopefully our line isn’t poopy like it was in that game.

But, yeah. We should absolutely win this game. Just hope people aren’t bugging out if the Lions keep it close.

Andy needs to keep his foot on the gas. I don't like this "run the clock down" strategy for an entire second half 2 weeks in a row.

Stafford is one of those guys who puts up numbers that don't translate to wins. Detroit is better this year because their defense is better. So if they want to beat us, they'll need to do it on defense. Don't see that happening.

On a side note, apparently this is mahomes' first game played in a dome. So that should be interesting.

Their defense, IMO, is good and hopefully will be a good test to see how our new toys fare against a Patriots-style defense, as well as how much Pat has learned about how to decipher it, but they won't be able to stop our offense from scoring 34 points. I think they'll put a damper on our run game to a degree, but they don't have anyone that can do much about DR, Hardman, and Sammy. Much less do anything about Kelce.

And the Lions offense will be a bigger test for our defense than anything we've faced this season. Mostly because of Stafford. Stafford is a solid QB with a live arm and some ability to scramble left in him. And he's a traditional QB; he's going to set up his line according to what he sees pre-snap, go through his reads and throw the ball to open receivers, mostly on target. He's not going to give us the game through inexperience or lack of intelligence. He might throw an errant pass; it's just in his nature sometimes.

Their RBs and WRs don't look that scary, but their TE group are all decent receivers. Should be a good test of our LBs/safeties coverage and tackling skills. They should be busy.

At the end though, the Lions don't score a lot, just 21 points a game. They'd have to play at a higher level offensively to have a chance of beating the Chiefs. At least two scores better.

He had the falcons in preseason

By design. They put 9-10 guys within 4 yards of the line of scrimmage. How did that work out for them stopping patty going over the top. Teams can slow down and even obliterate "an" aspect or player on our offense, but that just means we obliterate them in others ways. They get to pick their own poison.

I expect Hardman (or Tyreek if he's healthy) to catch a pass that travels 80 yards in the air

Lions are good, about half the team the Chiefs are. Chiefs by 3 td's.

Stafford is in sharp decline.

He has only FOUR 300-yard games in his last 19 games.

This is going to be a blood bath. That offense CANNOT keep up with us.

The only thing that worries me is Kenny Golladay catching eleventy jump balls against our midget corners.

I think this is a good comparison.

This game concerns me because the Ravens game was very physical. Last season after the Ravens game the Chiefs lost two in a row.

The Chargers moved the ball on these guys pretty easily. IIRC, they missed some FG's and turned the ball over (3?) times in the redzone.

And IMO, the Chargers look like a 7 (at most) win team right now.

Last year's Ravens game was far more physical. Yesterday didn't look like anything abnormal for our boys.

No reason to rush Tyreek back for this one.

Chiefs should win easily...avoid the trap!

Pat's first dome game.



450 yards 4 td

I see a good old fashioned shootout.

We will have to watch TJ Hockenson... Dude's going to be great.

I've already taken the Lions +7, but Chiefs win this. 34-28

I don't.

This is an offense that we should match up well with.

If we win our third road game out of the first four?

:eek:

Mahomes will be running out the clock in the 4th quarter and end it in the Victory formation for the fourth week in a row.

Old hat for Andy.

This team will be 7-0 before the Packers game.

If we win that we might be 15-1....

I hear that Dick "Night Train" Lane is pretty good on defense.

Yeah they’re not a playoff team IMO.

Gonna be tough to get past teams like Buffalo with a cupcake schedule

I don't trust any Lion fans they be lion all the time.

One does exist and ill post the link once your boards mods tell me its ok .

Actually completely agree with you on the Chargers win total, me and my friend were saying the same thing yesterday. They’re a below bubble team. But they can still move the ball, as they showed. Detroit still kept points off the board. Yaaaaa they missed some Fgs but Chargers gonna Charger.

What makes this game a 99.9% chance loss for them is that their offense is completely and utterly underwhelming overall. They have decent personnel but eh...they just don’t inspire confidence. Especially against Football Jesus. I think our D can honestly keep them under 20 if they have a nice day.

LOL!!!!!!

Thats not even close to the same thing.

Stafford strikes me as a safer more likeable version of cutler. He can make all the throws. He can make incredible throws. It's elite arm talent with very average decision making.

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What about his give-a-shit meter though?

The lions do that after a long time.

Most guys just retire after playing too long with a franchise that couldn't bother to even try winning, but Stafford is gonna phone it in for 30 million a year or whatever the **** he makes.

I think you're part right and part wrong.

I think Stafford, Cutler, and Rodgers are all similar in pure talent when they came into the league. They're all different mentally and in terms of their situations.

Stafford, in a different situation, probably doesn't turn into what he is. After being with the lions he's just passionless at this point. Collecting a check and relying on his talent to coast.

He's turned INTO Jay Cutler, but Jay was always an apathetic half asser with gobs of ability. I don't think Jay improved one bit from his rookie season to his last snap. He just didn't CARE. He had no passion. Ever.

I think the Lions beat that kind of apathy into him. The end result is the same, but it's sad how he got there. With Jay Cutler it's sad his career didn't end up more like Jeff George. He wasted his own talent. The Lions wasted Stafford's.

Stafford is a tough, talented QB that has always wanted to win, period. I remember when he came into the league; he said he idolized Brett Favre (can you see the similarity in his game?) and that he wanted to bring a championship to Detroit. Years of being beaten down, the constant carousel of coaches/systems, etc., may have taken away his passion at this point though.

I remember when he got hurt early in his career, and was sidelined for a season. He battled back from that and since then he's been as durable a QB as there is in the league.

IMO, he's been plagued by two things that have kept him from leading his team to top tier status: bad management and coaches, and inconsistent play.

I'm not going to get into the bad management/coaching bit; it's been well-documented in the past.

Anyway, I was watching some of that Eagles game and he left some plays on the field that were nothing more than throwing from odd platforms/arm angles and simply being inaccurate. Some may have been also due to bad decision-making, but I wasn't watching that closely so I can't speak to that. But he definitely missed a few throws that should've been positive plays if not for inaccurate throws.

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Sharp money is on Detroit.

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That's what troubled me with the Draft comparisons of Mahomes & Cutler. I guess it's hard for the media people to judge the internal drive on the kids. But I still don't like the Cutler comparison given his reputation for not giving a crap.

In the first half, or the second?

Last Chiefs win in Detroit...

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The DEs won’t have to play contain this Sunday.

It’s going to be a blood bath.

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Jason Whitlock just took his shirt off.....

BB influence there(injury report)

Talent wise, there is NOTHING wrong to being compared to Cutler.

Obviously Mahomes is MORE talented, but I think sometimes people overlook how much pure talent and what a cannon of an arm Cutler had.

The hilarious thing is that this pro comp is exactly why Bears fans were mostly against the idea of drafting Mahomes. They may complain NOW, but it was overwhelmingly only about Trubisky and Watson for them at the time. They were terrified of 'another Cutler'.

People will do almost anything to not play the Chiefs.

C'mon man. I'm eating.

IMO, this version of the Lions is not the same team as last year. And yet that team somehow beat the Patriots.

This year's Lions team somehow best both the Chargers and the Eagles. After tying the Cardinals? Lions always do weird things.

Here's the thing: the Lions aren't healthy in some key spots. Their best two DBs are hurt, D. Slay their best CB is nursing a hamstring, his right one I think. Against our WRs he's going to have to run full speed for an entire game. If I were their DC I might sit him, but they are one game back of GB after last night and so I expect him to play in some fashion.

DT Mike Daniels, their best DL is out, and another D lineman, Hand, is nursing a hand or arm injury and may not play.

On offense Amendola is dealing with a chest injury of some kind, but he'll likely play.

Something else to keep in mind. This Sunday the Chiefs are playing on turf, and turf makes fast guys faster. Also, up to this point are D, in particular Mr. Frank Clark has played in extreme heat, on dirt, and in the rain, none of which are optimal for footing, quickness, or bull-rushing. This weekend he'll be playing on the best kind of surface for his style of play. Ditto for Chris Jones in the power rush area. Might be interesting to watch.

Of course, the converse of the above is that the Chiefs aren't healthy either. Shady's dinged, and we don't know how bad, Damien's out for this Sunday, and now we hear Darrel is dinged up. And we know about the other key issues already.

If we were completely healthy I think the Chiefs could blow this out to a 3-4 TD lead early in the second half. As it is, While I still completely believe in Neo, er I mean Mahomes, and I think this defense is going to play fairly well, the Lions are just weird. I think it's going to be a game with shoot-out potential. 42-37 Chiefs.

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****ing nerd. Quit nerding up Patrick Mahomes.

They're gonna go 12 personnel all game whether Amendola is healthy or not. Clark's gonna get chipped for 60 minutes. Again. This is a big week for Chris Jones.

That was literally one of the dumbest things I've ever seen. At least least Capt. Andrew Luck had a modicum of originality. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery...unless you do a really shitty job. Like that.

How is the O-Line for the Lions who their best guy.

Too late. It's a hit. Combining a modern sports sensation with one of the greatest pop culture phenomenons ever is ALL WIN BABY

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Their OL had some troubles at the beginning of the season (16th), but they've switched some guys around and is now ranked 11th overall.

LG Joe Dahl appears to be the 'best' lineman, but he's new to the position apparently. He did stop Fletcher Cox for the entire game against the Eagles.

Frank Ragnow C, is expected to become a Pro-Bowler if not this year probably next.

RT or RG might be their weakest positions on the line.

Should be fun to see what our pass rush can do if Stafford is a little mobility limited (and he wasn't that mobile in the first place).

He will play.

Yeah, the Cutler comparison was intended as a mixed bag analysis. "You're very talented, but you will turn the ball over way too much." That was the kind of stuff Bucky Brooks and others were saying. They underestimated Pat's internal drive AND his intelligence by a long shot.

Bucky Brooks picks against the Chiefs every week, dude is in denial about being wrong about Mahomes. He keeps doubling down and he’s in like quintuple negatives at this point.

Stafford will turn the ball over at least once this Sunday.

Remember The Minshew...nooooooo

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