Know the origin then, because it is there from the source material

I was in the movie theatre for 3.5 hours. Your going to be pissed about something in the movie that lasted <30 seconds? Sorry man, thats on you.

Or figure out a way how Thanos can reattach his arm relatively easy so they try it, it fails, and they don't do it again. The only time they attempt the arm chop it works but it's irrelevant.

Time stone. Conveniently placed medical minion. Something.

**** that. Ain't got time to go back and read comic books for background on a popcorn movie.

Absolutely loved how brutal Thanos was in this movie. Just violently beating the shit out of everyone he got his hands on in a practical manner.

I loved how he **** punted Danvers

Loved it. Great flick.

I don't have any dislike for Captain Marvel, but I am glad that they didn't let her overpoweredness ruin anything. She was present in this one, but she was really a pretty minor character. I was a little worried that this would become the "Captain Marvel Saves the Day" story.

Explain the existence of "Old" Cap? if it's an alternate timeline. If it splinters from a "616" continuity for example

After he'd lived his life, he might have "warped" back to the present. They showed earlier in the movie that they could warp between times without going back to the big crazy machine.

Chris Hemsworth wants to keep being part of the universe as far as I know so he may be the only "old" character that continues.

This element of assumption time travel is what bothers me. If killing "past" Nebula exists in another timeline then how does Cap exist in the same manner. I'm cool with Cap staying away from the action to live his life with Peggy to be a stay at home husband but the Nebula deviation is the paradox that kills the mingling between Old Cap and Falcon if he is descending from a different reality.

I agree wholeheartedly.

That doesn't mean they need a LOOK AT ME! moment that has nothing to do with the plot.

Hamfisted garbage.

And none of this was groundbreaking.

Alien was over 30 years ago.

You're acting like the movie wasn't filled with stuff that was basically meant to pander to certain segments of fans.
- Cap lifting Mjolnir
- "Avengers Assemble"
- Jarvis
- Time travel stuff just happens to be to two of the more iconic scenes in the MCU (the circle in the battle in NYC and Starlord dancing to himself at the beginning of GOTG)
- Thor playing Fortnite

I'm sure I could go on if I thought about it. The point is that these movies aren't 100% serious. They're meant to have a good story, lots of action, and a few things thrown in that are just for fun and because fans like them. You don't like Girl Power, and that's OK, but acting it was this huge outlier is just kind of silly.

That isn't pandering. That's cool stuff that's in-universe.

This is forcing in something out of universe that weakens the movie.

You actually make female characters WEAKER when you do this.

Seems like he's going to be a Guardian now. Maybe Guardians 3 will have the Loki that ****ed off with the Tesseract as the villian.

Trying to wrap my head around the tesseract thefts. If they went back and stole it from an even earlier time, does Loki still have the one from the first theft attempt? Does that mean there are now multiple tesseracts?

Multiple time lines as I understand it. I bet they don't go there.

It has to be. Nothing else would even begin to make a shred of logical sense. But we're talking about a movie pulled from a series of superhero comic books so trying to make too much sense of anything is out the window.

That's above my pay grade.

I really liked the movie, but the ending was wrapped up too nice for me... I mean, aside from the deaths... it was just a ton of warm and fuzzy closure.

I don't like that we missed the whole transformation into Prof Hulk... it was just, pow - 5 years later he controls it all now.

Wanted more Loki as well... he's just too good of a character and the guy plays him so well, I just can't believe he was such a little piece to the last two films. Disappointing.

Fat Thor was funny - and he'll be good with the Guardians. Maybe that's how we see more Loki going forward.

Yeah, that was one of my biggest complaints. They did almost nothing to resolve Hulk's refusal to help in the last one, and Banner didn't have the attitude to **** shit up. In essence, we lost Hulk and got a green Banner. That's a miss in my opinion.

They caught him completely by surprise and he was very weak and injured.

Hulk character was a massive disappointment on all levels....almost ruined the movie. It's almost as if the Russo bros don't really give a shit. Hulk was nothing more than a goofy clown who cracked jokes, pulled a couple levers and switches. Wow Good Job Russo Bros. :rolleyes:

Same w/ Thor. It was funny at first, but should have ended once he regained Moljnir and had his chat w/ his mother. Once he has Moljnir he strikes down a bolt of lightning and he transforms back into regular Thor that we're all used to seeing. His drunken Lebowski character shouldn't have been dragged on through out the entire movie. Lame.

Bucky should have received Cap's shield. He's been w/ Cap since day 1. He's also an enhanced super soldier while Sam is not.

Needed more fight scenes....movie was too much hangin your head sob shit. The end battle should have been 3x longer than what it was. Movie should have had more run ins w/ their past selves in previous timelines. That would have made the movie much cooler. They did it a little bit, but there should have been more of it..more fight scenes....Cap vs Cap was cool...needed more of that kind of shit. Hulk vs Hulk would have been great to see.

Black Widow killed herself for the good of humanity....no one seemed to care.

This movie could have been a LOT better IMO. But they did make sure to spinkle in some sjw bullshit in there...gay characters, women's empowerment. Not that big of a deal, but it's not really genuine when it's forced like it was. Couldn't make 2 of their biggest characters worth a shit in the final movie, but hey at least we got some sjw sprinkled into the movie! That's what I wanted to see..

They had him incapacitated in the first movie trying to pull the gauntlet off. Drax had blades. Dr Strange could've magically cut that bitch off.

Search for Thanos on Google and click on the gauntlet for some mild laughs.

Seemed like a setup for an A-Force movie. Just like they setup Guardians + Thor.

Thanos cosplaying as Shrek was odd.

Just got out of the move and here are my thoughts:

Thought it was good but not great. To many plot holes for me to truly love it. Several things have already been mentioned with the time line stuff but doesn't Thor taking Mjolnir completely **** up the timeline? How does Thor use it in the past if he stole it? Maybe I am missing something?

I also hated what they did with the Hulk. Completely neutered him. That is not what we wanted to see with the Hulk. And yes, jumping from the Hulk not wanting to fight to Professor Hulk with nothing else than a simple explanation just plain sucked.

And I believe they did what they did with Loki so they could bring him back which i am perfectly fine with.

Not sure if it has been mentioned but "dusting" Thanos and all of his men completely ****s up the timeline. If they aren't in the past to wreak all the havoc they had that is a huge change to the past.

Didn't like Captain Marvel either, she just seemed forced into the movie. Just seemed weird to me.

Alternate timeline with time travel.

Cap took it with him when he went to return the stones, I believe.

That is right, forgot about that. But when Thor took it he didn't know if they would be able to return it. Your statement completes the plot hole for that but would still be a huge knuckle headed thing for Thor to do at the time.

Disagree. They didn't just reverse the snap they brought all that we're snapped to present time. 5 years later. Technically all of spideys friends graduated. This was Tony's wish. He wanted his daughter. Reversing the snap would have erased them all.

Also disagree on merged minds. If that were the case gamorra would have had memories.

He was frozen still. Future cap went back. I assume he was just low-key and stayed at home from 70 to 2024 with his wife.

I like their little group shot because they had a comic for them of all female avengers. It was a nod to the comic fans. Just like caps hail Hydra.

I hated the idea if the new Ghostbusters, thus is no where near that. I agree if someone freaks about this they have some deeper incel problems they need to look at.

That is a good point. Maybe the dwarf did a better job at protecting the user?

That female group shot happened during the best part of the movie, anyway. If it was in the middle of the convoluted Quantom Realm part I might've noticed it a bit more but I was just too busy having fun.

Yeah, for them to get everything to work they had to go put the stones back when they got them so there was no change. Same with the hammer.

Loki is now an alternate timeline. Probably will tie into Disney plus series.

Was that the kid who was standing behind Bucky and a Falcons group? I was trying to figure out who that was???

They didn't dust him in the past. They dusted him once on the planet. Then past thanos came through the time machine setting up the reality that is current for the heroes and died there. In their reality he defeated them already. It won't change anything as they didn't alter their past.

Pretty amazing they got Robert Redford, Natalie Portman and ‘Streets of San Francisco’ Michael Douglas back for this.

Amazing movie. I was highly entertained.

No, they discussed they had to return everything if they won.

I didn't think that was discussed until the Hulk tried to take the Time Stone but I could be wrong.

He came from their past though. He came from their 2014 (I think that was the year) and then they dusted him in the present. Anything he would have done between 2014 and their present would have been eliminated. Hell, he would have never been around to dust half of everyone to begin with. After 2014, Thanos would no longer exist. To truly get it right, Tony should have sent everyone back to their time with no memory of what transpired. They still needed Thanos to do bad things or everything would be changed.

Perfect ending to an incredible era. Wow.

So glad they didn’t do that too.

Why did they change her hair to a ‘lesbian cut’ ? She was much hotter at the beginning

Time travel stuff is always messy, and I'm not sure that they really tried to explain it all fully, but...

From my perspective, it's all about multiple timelines. If you consider everything that we've seen thus far in the MCU to be "Timeline A," all of that stuff still happened. When Thanos showed up in the final battle, that created a new "Timeline B" in 2014 in which he never had a chance to gather the stones and basically nothing ever happened. There's a "Timeline C" where Loki got the Tesseract and is still alive. There's a "Timeline D" in which Cap went back to live out life with Carter. All of these timelines exist and were impacted by the results of Endgame, but we're still just watching "Timeline A" in 2018.

The question moving forward is whether they call time travel a "been there, done that" thing or if they decide to keep using it. If they keep using it, then Loki's series could be set just after the events of Avengers (the first one). He wouldn't have grown as a character in the same way we knew it through the later movies. If they don't, it'll be some sort of side story parallel to other events we've seen, or maybe we'll learn that he STILL didn't die in Infinity War after all.

How many times did you tear up/cry during the movie? Black Widow got me wet eyed but Iron Man had them falling.

But they even addressed in the movie that they didn't want to alter the timeline. That right there was a huge plot hole for me.

I mean really why even return the stones at all? Some maybe since they affect others but like the Soul Stone would never need to go back. The next person to acquire it would be Thanos and since that is all ****ed anyway why worry about it.

They made the time travel stuff really messy.

Not sure if mentioned but Gamora has to be completely dead right? Even if the 2014 version was there I think Tony dusted her.

She wasn’t at the funeral and was reported missing on the GOTG ship

No. They killed their thanos with the beheading The one they dusted was another timeline thanos. Hence why gamorra is still alive.

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No, they killed the Thanos in the present but he would have still been alive back in 2014 along with Gamorra.

Headcanon that Doctor Strange is kind of a dick and he actually saw other outcomes where they won, including him sacrificing himself, but he made Tony do it because he's a smarmy prick and **** him.

Hell, that IS what happened. They were running around with a gauntlet that had all 6 infinity stones already in it that could form to anyone's hand for damn near an hour. All Doctor Strange had to do was scream "somebody put that ****ing thing on and snap these assholes out of existence." Captain Marvel or Thor probably survive with some damage.



Doctor Strange: ****ing asshole.

Over $150 million in one day in the USA . Yep, this shit is most likely beating Avatar at the box office. Congrats to Feige for pulling it off (ditto on everyone involved with the MCU)

dp

I think that was kind of the point of Iron Man doing it, though.

Everyone else was either too scared or unsure about what to do with all that power that they just kept passing the baton.

That's why Iron Man is the leader of the Avengers...

That's why Doctor Strange TELLS them. You're telling Iron Man is the only one with balls? Thor VOLUNTEERED to do it. You don't think his Viking lard ass wouldn't gladly put that bitch on and snap Thanos out of existence, and probably survive to boot?








Doctor Strange is a grade A scumbag.

I didn't realize Scarlett witch was so strong? She was goin toe to toe with Thanos for a minute.

That man had a FAMILY, Stephen. Disgusting.

Dr. Strange is a ****ing boss.

Scarlett Witch is also OP. She essentially has the power to be a WMD. It’s why they tried to put her in isolation in Civil War.

Omega Level Mutant

Butterfly effect of a sequence to occur at a precise moment is what I got out it. Hence, 1 out of 14 million line

Yep. If CM stops and Ebony Maw strips her of the Gauntlet. It’s Game Over and Thanos would make sure all of Earth was wiped out.

I think Thanos has to let his guard down for the last snap to happen. He did when he thought he had the stones.

zero...because Im a adult and its a comic book flick.

Bull. Shit. Anyone could've snapped the gauntlet after Thor and his ragtag group of CGI baddies were on the scene and it would've had the same effect. The studly butch lesbian could just fly up into outer space and no one could interfere. It would've even given the Anti SJW crowd a feel good moment. But no, you had to rip a man away from his wife and 5 year old. All because Doctor Strange thought he was kind of an asshole that one time.

Despicable.

See, that's deal with time travel stuff. A sequence of events have to happen for another event to occur.

Hence all the time travel movie references

Not buying it. Doctor Strange had a grudge. Probably had a smirk on as Peter and Pepper were crying their eyes out. Sick bastard.

Sorry, guys. Just having a bit of fun. Apparently hurt someone's feelings enough to thumbs my post down.

Read an article where the author accused Marvel/Disney of being homophobic because *their* Steve Rogers would never go back into the past and stay with a woman leaving Bucky behind. Made me laugh so I wanted to try my hand at being a crazy conspiracy nutjob too.

Also, shout out to that rat for saving the universe. Without you, we're well and truly ****ed.

Heh, they did include a gay character scene. The counseling scene where the guy was talking to Steve about going on a date with another man.

Lmao. It’s all good. I don’t know who thumbed you down but I appreciated your intensity.

The time-travel stuff is always mindbending... mainly because, since we can't do it, we have no idea what the **** would actually happen. This film seems to imply that you can't change the past, but if you go into the past and mess with it you're basically constructing an alternate timeline for that universe (but you can return to YOUR universe with no changes to it). A convenient way to make the time heist storyline work but makes no sense when you simply say "go put them back". For example, you knocked out Star-Lord and stole that stone... so what do you go back to, the point where you knocked him out and just say, "Hey, here's the stone"? And how do you put back the Soul Stone? (Although that would be a convenient way to get Black Widow back in the current time... "Hey, Red Skull, here's your stone back, now give us back the 'payment' we made.") The other problem with this idea of time-travel is that you can do whatever you want with no punishment (i.e. Gamora). Oh, look, Stark died... no biggie, just go back to the day BEFORE the big battle, and take that Stark forward. So now you're God. No one has to die. Go back and get Black Widow, Thor's mom, Vision, whoever you want. Some big bad villian shows up? Just go back and get 100 Iron Men, who gives a **** about those alternate universes you create, those are their problems.

Bucky should have gotten the shield. I don't think Gamora got dusted. Guardians 3 will probably be them looking for her

Nah. Bucky is his lover, not his heir apparent.

Yes and yes

Time travel really shouldn't be used as a plot device. Russo brothers and whoever else were involved made one of the better efforts I've seen to use it but it just got too convoluted.

Why wasn’t Tony more tore up over the death of Vision? Wasn’t he part of Tony or something? I don’t remem him even shedding one tear for him.

Seems like he was pretty ****ing upset at everything after they first found him. Then the 5 year timeskip and he let go of resentment.