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Easy 6 01-28-2014 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 10399295)
It'd be nice if you bought it:
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Jason?

Simply Red 01-28-2014 06:40 PM

no.

no

Simply Red 01-28-2014 06:42 PM

If I state my true opinion - I'd lose friends here, so I'll just sit back and observe.

Easy 6 01-28-2014 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 10399245)
Cody was from a very cheesy Swedish glam band called "Shotgun Messiah".

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I have zero doubts I've heard that one before.

But if theres a guitar that's harder to wield than that little modified V, I don't know what it is... I hate oddball shapes like that... they look great, but are harder than hell to play IMO.

Easy 6 01-28-2014 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 10399306)
If I state my true opinion - I'd lose friends here, so I'll just sit back and observe.

Let it rip, Red... it surely isn't anything most of us old guys haven't heard before.

But if you had been in your teens and twenties in the 80's, you might feel different about it all... but its all good, tell it like it is, it'd actually be interested to hear a young guys take.

I know for sure that my son thinks Ratt is cheesy... "YOU LITTLE BASTARD WHAT? DO YOU NOT KNOW WHO WARREN DEMARTINI IS YOU IMPERTINENT LITTLE PRICK?"

Gadzooks 01-28-2014 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 10399306)
If I state my true opinion - I'd lose friends here, so I'll just sit back and observe.

You already blew it by posting a link to "Primus - Master of Puppets".
I thought you were my friend...:(

Pitt Gorilla 01-28-2014 11:00 PM

I used to love both bands. Now, I like both but prefer Metallica.

Pushead2 01-28-2014 11:27 PM

When Megadeth (Mustaine) isn't trying to be like Metallica & think what would Metallica do here? That's when they're better.

htismaqe 01-29-2014 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by scott free (Post 10399310)
I have zero doubts I've heard that one before.

But if theres a guitar that's harder to wield than that little modified V, I don't know what it is... I hate oddball shapes like that... they look great, but are harder than hell to play IMO.

Not really.

I have this one and I play it all the time, even sitting in a chair. Sure, you have to adjust but it isn't unwieldy AT ALL. In fact, it's comfy, light, and the fretboard is almost as good as my custom-made Washburn.

http://cn1.kaboodle.com/img/b/0/0/1a...=1322190282000

Easy 6 01-29-2014 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10400092)
Not really.

I have this one and I play it all the time, even sitting in a chair. Sure, you have to adjust but it isn't unwieldy AT ALL. In fact, it's comfy, light, and the fretboard is almost as good as my custom-made Washburn.

http://cn1.kaboodle.com/img/b/0/0/1a...=1322190282000

Right, those are fine because you have the full length piece on the bottom that rests on the leg and stabilizes things, that little pink model in the video, I want to say its a Jackson, has the shortened bottom piece that I found really hard to get comfortable with.

L.A. Chieffan 01-29-2014 11:51 AM

Megadeth has had some great albums and some flops. Mostly the greats came in the early years and the flops in the later.

Metallica has had some great albums and some flops. Mostly the greats came in the early years and the flops in the later.

InChiefsHeaven 01-29-2014 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 10399334)
You already blew it by posting a link to "Primus - Master of Puppets".
I thought you were my friend...:(

I liked it...:redface:

But, I have always dug Les.

L.A. Chieffan 01-29-2014 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 10399306)
If I state my true opinion - I'd lose friends here, so I'll just sit back and observe.

Megadeth is just too black sounding for me

Lzen 01-29-2014 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by L.A. Chieffan (Post 10400558)
Megadeth is just too black sounding for me

Racist!












:p

Gadzooks 01-29-2014 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by InChiefsHell (Post 10400545)
I liked it...:redface:

But, I have always dug Les.

Don't get me wrong. Of course I liked it and I'm certainly a fan of Primus.
Mr. Red, however, said he wouldn't state his opinion for the fear of losing friends yet he showed his cards through his sneaky link.:shake:

Dayze 01-29-2014 07:41 PM

you are correct.

http://www.jacksonguitarsonsale.com/...0344562427.jpg

htismaqe 01-30-2014 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 10401455)

Well, when I play my V, especially sitting down, my leg sits in the V and it's the TOP part that supports the guitar, not the bottom.

So in that sense, I don't see where the Jackson would be any less wieldy.

Easy 6 01-30-2014 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10402826)
Well, when I play my V, especially sitting down, my leg sits in the V and it's the TOP part that supports the guitar, not the bottom.

So in that sense, I don't see where the Jackson would be any less wieldy.

LMAO this is really sticking in your craw huh.

Whaddya want me to say, I just didnt enjoy playing that model at all, even less than the Warlock... swore on all my ancestors graves that I just HAD to have one of those until I spent some time playing one.

bdj23 01-30-2014 03:55 PM

Sorry but I disagree. I love Metallica and have since I was about 8. But I cannot stand Megadeth. To me Megadeth sounds like a metal band with Axl Rose as their front man.

htismaqe 01-30-2014 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free (Post 10402846)
LMAO this is really sticking in your craw huh.

Whaddya want me to say, I just didnt enjoy playing that model at all, even less than the Warlock... swore on all my ancestors graves that I just HAD to have one of those until I spent some time playing one.

No, not really. Just explaining that it really isn't an issue.

Pitt Gorilla 01-30-2014 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BDj23 (Post 10402859)
Sorry but I disagree. I love Metallica and have since I was about 8. But I cannot stand Megadeth. But to me Megadwth sounds like a metal band with Axl Rose as their front man.

Mustaine is a horrible singer.

htismaqe 01-31-2014 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 10402972)
Mustaine is a horrible singer.

What does that have to do with anything? They're not singing gospel.

James Hetfield is a horrible singer too.

The godfather of speed metal, Lemmy, is the worst. And he's still a ****ing god.

Gadzooks 01-31-2014 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free (Post 10402846)
LMAO this is really sticking in your craw huh.

Whaddya want me to say, I just didnt enjoy playing that model at all, even less than the Warlock... swore on all my ancestors graves that I just HAD to have one of those until I spent some time playing one.

Warlock, heh. My old singer got a Warlock as part of a package deal he bought off some guy, (he also got a monitor and cool home made cabinet). He gave the Warlock to me and I laughed for hours:
http://www.evilguitars.com/bc-rich-w...an-pink-00.jpg
WTF was I supposed to do with this? The headstock was black so I thought of sanding it down and repainting it but it was such a piece of shit that it wasn't worth the effort.

htismaqe 01-31-2014 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 10404319)
Warlock, heh. My old singer got a Warlock as part of a package deal he bought off some guy, (he also got a monitor and cool home made cabinet). He gave the Warlock to me and I laughed for hours:
http://www.evilguitars.com/bc-rich-w...an-pink-00.jpg
WTF was I supposed to do with this? The headstock was black so I thought of sanding it down and repainting it but it was such a piece of shit that it wasn't worth the effort.

ROFL

Unless you're Lita Ford, that thing is useless.

DMAC 01-31-2014 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10403599)

James Hetfield is a horrible singer too.

Is...not was.

He had a couple golden years there where his vocals were a pleasure.

htismaqe 01-31-2014 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DMAC (Post 10404334)
Is...not was.

He had a couple golden years there where his vocals were a pleasure.

His vocals work for what they do.

Given the type of music, I don't think vocal "quality" should be much of a factor anyway...

DMAC 01-31-2014 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10404343)
His vocals work for what they do.

Given the type of music, I don't think vocal "quality" should be much of a factor anyway...

Our thoughts on the matter just differ. I think vocal quality should be a factor in all types of music.

htismaqe 01-31-2014 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DMAC (Post 10404378)
Our thoughts on the matter just differ. I think vocal quality should be a factor in all types of music.

You must not be in death metal then.

Swanman 01-31-2014 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10404418)
You must not be in death metal then.

In death metal, the vocals become more like an additional guitar track.

I like metal vocalists that can do a bit of singing but also do the screaming/growling thing well. Like Rob Flynn of Machine Head, Anders from In Flames, Burton Bell from Fear Factory, Jesse Leach from Killswitch, etc.

Gadzooks 01-31-2014 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DMAC (Post 10404378)
Our thoughts on the matter just differ. I think vocal quality should be a factor in all types of music.

I've never thought of vocal quality as a factor for the music I like. If I did I'd probably be into Beyonce or some other auto-tuned cheesy shit.

I've played guitar and bass since I was 12, so, I've always tended to focus on the music being played.

I think the only metal vocalist's I've liked have been Pepper Keenan of C.O.C. and Phil Anselmo of Pantera, (he was an acquired taste).

htismaqe 01-31-2014 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Swanman (Post 10404491)
In death metal, the vocals become more like an additional guitar track.

I like metal vocalists that can do a bit of singing but also do the screaming/growling thing well. Like Rob Flynn of Machine Head, Anders from In Flames, Burton Bell from Fear Factory, Jesse Leach from Killswitch, etc.

Well, I think Dave Mustaine can sing when he has to. He's not "awful". He just has a distinctive style. He's certainly not atonal or something.

htismaqe 01-31-2014 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 10404531)
Phil Anselmo of Pantera, (he was an acquired taste).

Can't sing a lick.

And is AWESOME.

Lzen 01-31-2014 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swanman (Post 10404491)
In death metal, the vocals become more like an additional guitar track.

I like metal vocalists that can do a bit of singing but also do the screaming/growling thing well. Like Rob Flynn of Machine Head, Anders from In Flames, Burton Bell from Fear Factory, Jesse Leach from Killswitch, etc.

:thumb:

Easy 6 01-31-2014 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 10404531)
Pepper Keenan of C.O.C.

:thumb:

htismaqe 01-31-2014 03:53 PM

I really only pay attention to vocal quality when vocal quality is emphasized in the music. I don't listen to Motorhead and think "boy I wish he could sing better" but I absolutely do listen to Dio and think "damn, this guy is the best ever."

Gadzooks 01-31-2014 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10404538)
Can't sing a lick.

And is AWESOME.

I don't know about that... He sings his balls off in Cemetery Gates.
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Lotta' range there.

htismaqe 01-31-2014 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 10404568)
I don't know about that... He sings his balls off in Cemetery Gates.

I'll give you that, the studio version does sound pretty good. A lot of these guys sounded a lot better in the studio though. That's true of a lot of the "good" singers too, btw.

Gadzooks 01-31-2014 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10404576)
I'll give you that, the studio version does sound pretty good. A lot of these guys sounded a lot better in the studio though. That's true of a lot of the "good" singers too, btw.

Very true. It sounds way better with the double vocal on tape than it did when I saw them live.
The same show had White Zombie and Rob can't sing his way out of a paper bag live.

htismaqe 01-31-2014 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 10404587)
Very true. It sounds way better with the double vocal on tape than it did when I saw them live.
The same show had White Zombie and Rob can't sing his way out of a paper bag live.

Zombie was pretty killer live, though.

Rob spat on my buddy. He made the mistake of getting too near the stage wearing this:

http://www.tshirttimemachine.com/products/IMG_08560.JPG

Deberg_1990 01-31-2014 04:31 PM

Pantera>Megadeth>Metallica

htismaqe 01-31-2014 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 10404642)
Pantera>Megadeth>Metallica

For me, Megadeth and Pantera are close. As I mentioned before, "Rust in Peace" specifically is one of my absolute favorite albums ever.

They're both better than Metallica, though.

Easy 6 01-31-2014 04:53 PM

I'll take COC over Pantera eight days a week.

Pick a song, any song, these guys should've been waaay bigger than they were...

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Deberg_1990 01-31-2014 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10404646)
For me, Megadeth and Pantera are close. As I mentioned before, "Rust in Peace" specifically is one of my absolute favorite albums ever.

They're both better than Metallica, though.

I was just joking, but I like them all. Metallica is probably my favorite overall. Megadeth had some great stuff there in the early 90s.

Lars was on Reddit the other day and said him and Mustaine were pretty friendly nowadays.
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Gadzooks 01-31-2014 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free (Post 10404673)
I'll take COC over Pantera eight days a week.

Pick a song, any song, these guys should've been waaay bigger than they were...

I agree, they should have but they started as more of a harcore punk band in the early '80s. It was too confusing for the record label. If you wore the below logo you were more likely to have a mohawk than be a long hair.
http://theindiespiritualist.com/wp-c...12/01/coc1.jpg
I think this is part of what ruined their career.

Oddly enough Pantera started as a glam metal outfit. Fortunately for them nobody knew about it until they hit it big.
http://www.sickchirpse.com/wp-conten...-Pantera-2.jpg
Sad for C.O.C....

Deberg_1990 01-31-2014 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 10404702)
I

Oddly enough Pantera started as a glam metal outfit..

I don't even think I've ever heard any of their glam metal music? Probably for the best.

Easy 6 01-31-2014 05:24 PM

Gadzooks, you definitely know the deal... COC was pure punk early on, I love punk but I actually liked their music better when they went to that dirty blues groove.

And yes LMAO there are some hilarious shots of early Pantera out there, waaay worse than what you posted... that's why I used to laugh when I would read some interview back in the day where one of them would slam a glam group.

Gadzooks 01-31-2014 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scott free (Post 10404721)
COC was pure punk early on, I love punk but I actually liked their music better when they went to that dirty blues groove.

Me too.

Not sure if you've seen this clip where Pepper Keenan bows out of the race as Metallica's new bass player.
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Les Claypool auditioned after Clifford Lee Burton died as well.
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Easy 6 01-31-2014 07:32 PM

Have never seen either of those, very enlightening, particularly Claypool lol... James said I was "too good", that was just a nice way of saying I'm a weirdo.

htismaqe 01-31-2014 07:45 PM

Check this out. Here's an example of Friedman's fusion of the blues, jazz, and Japanese music.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_WQuT5rTxA

htismaqe 01-31-2014 07:50 PM

And here's a live performance of one of the most awesome tunes on "Dragon's Kiss".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HT0EsXxv_c0

htismaqe 01-31-2014 07:59 PM

And finally, the best song on the album. The reason why he was a perfect fit for Megadeth. He brought something that transcended metal. Yes, I'm a BIG fan. :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciMNmAX6kZU

Easy 6 01-31-2014 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10404933)
Check this out. Here's an example of Friedman's fusion of the blues, jazz, and Japanese music.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_WQuT5rTxA

Damn man, damn... that was beautiful, just beautiful... I'm ready to go get hammered on a sunny beach now.

That was way too short.

Gadzooks 01-31-2014 09:57 PM

My buddy once provided a compelling argument that Metallica had ripped off their "sound" from "Death" (an Orlando FL based heavy metal band headed by Chuck Schuldiner).
He played songs from their "best of" album and compared them to pieces by Metallica released soon after.
I was convinced...

Reaper16 01-31-2014 10:33 PM

Pantera is garbage. Somebody fix this thread.

Gadzooks 01-31-2014 10:48 PM

Everything is garbage from a certain perspective.

Reaper16 01-31-2014 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 10405187)
Everything is garbage from a certain perspective.

In this case, the perspective is one overlooking Pantera.

Gadzooks 01-31-2014 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 10405191)
In this case, the perspective is one overlooking Pantera.

If you've "overlooked" Pantera they shouldn't be a problem. I've seen that you're the house music critic, but I don't get how you could call Pantera "garbage".
Is it because their not as obscure as Caninus, Anal **** or Napalm Death?
If Pantera were from Sweden would they get your approval?;)

Lzen 02-01-2014 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 10405161)
Pantera is garbage. Somebody fix this thread.

Wow. For someone who brags about supposedly great taste music, you don't really have great taste in music.

Reaper16 02-01-2014 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 10405232)
If you've "overlooked" Pantera they shouldn't be a problem. I've seen that you're the house music critic, but I don't get how you could call Pantera "garbage".
Is it because their not as obscure as Caninus, Anal **** or Napalm Death?
If Pantera were from Sweden would they get your approval?;)

I don't only like obscure things. Besides, Pantera doesn't sound anything like those bands. What Pantera sounds like is Exhorder, whom Pantera totally ripped off.

I do like a handful of Pantera tracks (Cemetery Gates primarily.) I guess I can dig the whole Cowboys From Hell album, more or less. The others are just so boring. Like, their whole "groove metal" sound was always pretty tiresome even on an album I kinda like. I mean, compared to the riff quotient of a thrash or death metal band. Even black metal, with its emphasis on atmosphere, brings more riffs to the table than the average Pantera song does.

For those reasons, Pantera are underwhelming to me. Dimebag is a great guitar player (though he is certainly overrated and is sadly influential), but an incredibly overrated songwriter. The Vulgar Display of Power album makes me want to throw up. Out of sheer boredom.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 10405560)
Wow. For someone who brags about supposedly great taste music, you don't really have great taste in music.

Go listen to John Petrucci try and fail for the thirtieth time to write a decent song. Be sure to report back.

Lzen 02-01-2014 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 10405602)
I don't only like obscure things. Besides, Pantera doesn't sound anything like those bands. What Pantera sounds like is Exhorder, whom Pantera totally ripped off.

I do like a handful of Pantera tracks (Cemetery Gates primarily.) I guess I can dig the whole Cowboys From Hell album, more or less. The others are just so boring. Like, their whole "groove metal" sound was always pretty tiresome even on an album I kinda like. I mean, compared to the riff quotient of a thrash or death metal band. Even black metal, with its emphasis on atmosphere, brings more riffs to the table than the average Pantera song does.

For those reasons, Pantera are underwhelming to me. Dimebag is a great guitar player (though he is certainly overrated and is sadly influential), but an incredibly overrated songwriter. The Vulgar Display of Power album makes me want to throw up. Out of sheer boredom.



Go listen to John Petrucci try and fail for the thirtieth time to write a decent song. Be sure to report back.

Your and idiot. :shake:

mdstu 02-01-2014 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 10404568)
I don't know about that... He sings his balls off in Cemetery Gates.
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Lotta' range there.

He was at Ozzfest 2004 with Superjoint Ritual, he was so bad I was embarrassed for him.

htismaqe 02-01-2014 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by mdstu (Post 10405846)
He was at Ozzfest 2004 with Superjoint Ritual, he was so bad I was embarrassed for him.

He was pretty ****ed up a lot of the time. Not a great singer to begin with and even worse when he was loaded.

mdstu 02-01-2014 01:26 PM

I don't know if he was loaded or not, but he deserves his ass kicked for making me listen to that shit. I seriously would have went out to my car for a half hour if they would have let me back in.

htismaqe 02-01-2014 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by mdstu (Post 10405884)
I don't know if he was loaded or not, but he deserves his ass kicked for making me listen to that shit. I seriously would have went out to my car for a half hour if they would have let me back in.

He was a well-known heroin user during that time. I'm honestly not surprised.

mdstu 02-01-2014 01:35 PM

In his defense, if I was an 80's or 90's rock/metal star, I probably would have been an addict as well. It just looks like so much fun.

htismaqe 02-01-2014 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdstu (Post 10405916)
In his defense, if I was an 80's or 90's rock/metal star, I probably would have been an addict as well. It just looks like so much fun.

Well to take this full circle, Dave Mustaine said he started doing heroin specifically for that reason. He wanted to be a rock star and rock stars did heroin.

Dayze 02-28-2014 02:20 AM

Just listened to "Peace Sells But Who's Buying"


....further evidence


Mustaine go the the royal Metallica shaft

Pushead2 02-28-2014 02:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 10458320)
Just listened to "Peace Sells But Who's Buying"


....further evidence


Mustaine go the the royal Metallica shaft

My biggest gripe with Mustaine is that he wouldn't let go of certain Metallica riffs he had a hand in.

I've said it before in this thread, when he wasn't thinking "Metallica" while writing, that's when Megadeth is better musically. Vocals are a whole other story.

htismaqe 02-28-2014 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pushead2 (Post 10458324)
My biggest gripe with Mustaine is that he wouldn't let go of certain Metallica riffs he had a hand in.

I've said it before in this thread, when he wasn't thinking "Metallica" while writing, that's when Megadeth is better musically. Vocals are a whole other story.

I like his vocals. Distinct and different.

Dayze 03-09-2014 03:03 AM

I just watched more Megadeth...yeah, so coming from a die hard Metallica fan, I'm humbled to say Megadeth is so much better. Why I didn't get into them earlier I have no idea. Even their equivelant of Metallica's "Black album" (Symphony of Destruction) smokes Metallica.



Never thought I'd say this blasphemy



Side note......Friedman's shit makes Hammet's shit look like child's play.

WhiteWhale 03-09-2014 03:48 AM

Can't agree with you.

Megadeth had one album I really liked.

Metallica had four.

I really couldn't care less about what either of them are doing now.

WhiteWhale 03-09-2014 03:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 10405602)
I don't only like obscure things. Besides, Pantera doesn't sound anything like those bands. What Pantera sounds like is Exhorder, whom Pantera totally ripped off.

I do like a handful of Pantera tracks (Cemetery Gates primarily.) I guess I can dig the whole Cowboys From Hell album, more or less. The others are just so boring. Like, their whole "groove metal" sound was always pretty tiresome even on an album I kinda like. I mean, compared to the riff quotient of a thrash or death metal band. Even black metal, with its emphasis on atmosphere, brings more riffs to the table than the average Pantera song does.

For those reasons, Pantera are underwhelming to me. Dimebag is a great guitar player (though he is certainly overrated and is sadly influential), but an incredibly overrated songwriter. The Vulgar Display of Power album makes me want to throw up. Out of sheer boredom.



Go listen to John Petrucci try and fail for the thirtieth time to write a decent song. Be sure to report back.


Sounds to me like you simply don't appreciate the sludgy nature of their sound, and use that to call them 'garbage'.

I mean 'riff quotient'?

Damn, I bet you HATE rock and roll... what with them not noodling fast enough nor matching your riff quotient requirement. ROFL

Dayze 03-09-2014 04:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 10474890)
Can't agree with you.

Megadeth had one album I really liked.

Metallica had four.

I really couldn't care less about what either of them are doing now.

Yeah. I can totally relate. for sure.
i was just listening to Mustaine's melodies and what not, and thought they were so much intricate than Hetfields.


don't get me wrong.......they're both amazing. like a ribeye or KC strips.

WhiteWhale 03-09-2014 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 10474896)
Yeah. I can totally relate. for sure.
i was just listening to Mustaine's melodies and what not, and thought they were so much intricate than Hetfields.


don't get me wrong.......they're both amazing. like a ribeye or KC strips.

Yeah, I mean it was just so long ago now. I haven't listened to most of the band's mentioned on this page in like 5 years. :D When it comes to technical proficiency, Metallica isn't really that great. I love their songs. MoP is still one my all time favs.

The whole reason there's so much damn music is because people like so many different things. I used to be that guy who ran around saying 'this sucks' or 'this is shit' if I didn't like something, but then I grew up and realized what an asshole that makes me. Yanno, like who the hell am I to call someone's artistic self expression 'shit'? Who the hell am I to define that? What have I done to put my own self out there?

There are too many critics in the world and not enough appreciators. Megadeth never kept my attention beyond the 90's. That doesn't matter, because Mustaine is still a metal legend. I'm just some asshole. :D

htismaqe 03-10-2014 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 10474890)
Can't agree with you.

Megadeth had one album I really liked.

Metallica had four.

I really couldn't care less about what either of them are doing now.

"Rust in Peace" is better than anything Metallica has ever released, IMO. But I'm also a musician and was a big fan of Friedman and his style before he ever joined Megadeth. His addition, for me, took Megadeth beyond thrash/speed metal and into something much more complex and fulfilling. At the same time, Metallica went the other direction, simplifying their formula and making it more consumable.

It's easy for me to understand why people like Metallica more. I just don't agree.

I too couldn't care less about what they're doing now.

htismaqe 03-10-2014 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 10475742)
Megadeth never kept my attention beyond the 90's.

They didn't even hold my attention that long. Of course, Metallica didn't keep my interest beyond the 80's. :D

One thing I can say about Metallica though is that, for me, at least the Black album was transitional. It could have been a musical brick wall like "Risk".

Dayze 03-10-2014 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 10475742)
Yeah, I mean it was just so long ago now. I haven't listened to most of the band's mentioned on this page in like 5 years. :D When it comes to technical proficiency, Metallica isn't really that great. I love their songs. MoP is still one my all time favs.

The whole reason there's so much damn music is because people like so many different things. I used to be that guy who ran around saying 'this sucks' or 'this is shit' if I didn't like something, but then I grew up and realized what an asshole that makes me. Yanno, like who the hell am I to call someone's artistic self expression 'shit'? Who the hell am I to define that? What have I done to put my own self out there?

There are too many critics in the world and not enough appreciators. Megadeth never kept my attention beyond the 90's. That doesn't matter, because Mustaine is still a metal legend. I'm just some asshole. :D

LMAO

Lzen 03-10-2014 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 10475742)
Yeah, I mean it was just so long ago now. I haven't listened to most of the band's mentioned on this page in like 5 years. :D When it comes to technical proficiency, Metallica isn't really that great. I love their songs. MoP is still one my all time favs.

The whole reason there's so much damn music is because people like so many different things. I used to be that guy who ran around saying 'this sucks' or 'this is shit' if I didn't like something, but then I grew up and realized what an asshole that makes me. Yanno, like who the hell am I to call someone's artistic self expression 'shit'? Who the hell am I to define that? What have I done to put my own self out there?

There are too many critics in the world and not enough appreciators. Megadeth never kept my attention beyond the 90's. That doesn't matter, because Mustaine is still a metal legend. I'm just some asshole. :D

Bravo. :clap:

WhiteWhale 03-10-2014 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10476603)
"Rust in Peace" is better than anything Metallica has ever released, IMO. But I'm also a musician and was a big fan of Friedman and his style before he ever joined Megadeth. His addition, for me, took Megadeth beyond thrash/speed metal and into something much more complex and fulfilling. At the same time, Metallica went the other direction, simplifying their formula and making it more consumable.

It's easy for me to understand why people like Metallica more. I just don't agree.

I too couldn't care less about what they're doing now.

Friedman is ridiculous.

Mustaine's vocals annoys me. That's really the only thing about them that was ever off-putting to me.

WhiteWhale 03-10-2014 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10476607)
They didn't even hold my attention that long. Of course, Metallica didn't keep my interest beyond the 80's. :D

One thing I can say about Metallica though is that, for me, at least the Black album was transitional. It could have been a musical brick wall like "Risk".

Yeah well, I was 9 when the 80's ended. LMAO


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