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frankotank 02-09-2015 07:13 PM

anybody catch that it's his BROTHER he's defending? the dude in the house with no lights?

I totally tripped seeing Mike and Tuco. those time jumps with no warning are a bitch.

my next bull mastiff is gonna be named Tuco. TIGHT....TIGHT TIGHT!

notorious 02-09-2015 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by frankotank (Post 11318889)
my next bull mastiff is gonna be named Tuco. TIGHT....TIGHT TIGHT!

http://reactiongifs.me/wp-content/up...eaking-bad.gif

notorious 02-09-2015 08:06 PM

When is the last time a spinoff succeeded?


Frazier?

frankotank 02-09-2015 08:13 PM

it's been a while!
I really didn't know how they would approach this.....but if they gonna go so far back in time that Mike is manning a frigging parking garage booth then....hmm....that opens up tons of story lines. it doesn't all have to be in the present....or AFTER BB.

could be interesting.

'Hamas' Jenkins 02-09-2015 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 11317755)
Yes, that's it.
I did think it was a little confusing though. That was a flash-forward (I assume). And he made the Cinnabon in Omaha quip in the past.
That seems like an oddly specific quip for it to actually come true. It made me re-think the time line for a second.
Maybe he had an 'in' at Cinnabon and knew he could get a manager gig there?
Just seems weird.

It's an homage to fans of Breaking Bad. If you paid fanatical attention to that show, Gilligan rewarded you with that scene. It bridges the gap between the two existences and shows.

Beyond that, the ability of the cinematography and sound to convey the mundane horror of his daily existence was absolutely excellent. He's a guy whose only stimulation in life comes from A) a fear of imminent death any time he reads an even slightly perturbed face on a stranger or B) reliving his past glory by watching tapes of his old commercials.

What an awful life.

notorious 02-09-2015 08:20 PM

I thought the opening was magnificent.


Not one word was said, just emotion through subtle face expressions.

Ceej 02-09-2015 08:26 PM

I enjoyed the premiere.

The whole schemin' and plottin' with the ginger twins was great.

Deberg_1990 02-09-2015 10:31 PM

Really enjoying it so far


The Tuco thing, while cute and well done screams 'small universe' though.

Deberg_1990 02-09-2015 10:50 PM

Most hilarious bit



Operating an office out of a janitorial closet in the back of an Asian nail salon.


ROFL

'Hamas' Jenkins 02-09-2015 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 11319367)
Really enjoying it so far


The Tuco thing, while cute and well done screams 'small universe' though.

Well, he had to learn to be a criminal lawyer somehow. Getting in with the biggest guy in the meth game in ABQ would explain how he built his bonafides.

Chiefspants 02-09-2015 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 11319423)
Well, he had to learn to be a criminal lawyer somehow. Getting in with the biggest guy in the meth game in ABQ would explain how he built his bonafides.

I completely agree. The fact that Jesse Pinkman knew to "Call Saul" illustrates that Saul had made quite a name for himself in those circles.

BWillie 02-10-2015 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Zebedee DuBois (Post 11318661)
The first season of Breaking Bad didn't exactly storm out of the gates the first few episodes.

I didnt even like BB until later in the 1st season. You really appreciate the character development down the line, even though it seems slow at the time. If you dont want any slow eps, just go watch Criminal Minds where every episode is corny and almost always the same

mdchiefsfan 02-10-2015 09:35 AM

Can't believe how many are bitching, but call themselves BB fans. I thought the second episode was amazingly fast paced for Vince Gilligan's writing style. I think a great premise has been established; can't wait to see where they take it.

cosmo20002 02-10-2015 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan (Post 11319811)
Can't believe how many are bitching, but call themselves BB fans. I thought the second episode was amazingly fast paced for Vince Gilligan's writing style. I think a great premise has been established; can't wait to see where they take it.

If people don't like the show so far it is because they are a biznatch.

notorious 02-10-2015 10:09 PM

Gilligan is going by the BB playbook.

Create desperation with the main character, show him ****ing up on his first attempt at "Breaking Bad" (and nearly dying), have a scene showing the despair of the main character trying to do things the right way only to have the "Bad" solution being dangled in front of him.

This is going almost exactly like the Walt storyline.

Chiefspants 02-10-2015 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 11321492)
Gilligan is going by the BB playbook.

Create desperation with the main character, show him ****ing up on his first attempt at "Breaking Bad" (and nearly dying), have a scene showing the despair of the main character trying to do things the right way only to have the "Bad" solution being dangled in front of him.

This is going almost exactly like the Walt storyline.

AND IT'S GOING TO BE ****ING AWESOME.

BWillie 02-11-2015 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 11321247)
If people don't like the show so far it is because they are a biznatch.



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notorious 02-11-2015 08:51 AM

If only Tuco's gang knew what what going to happen to them in about 10 years. LMAO



Spoiler!

Chiefspants 02-11-2015 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 11321646)

Looks like Tuco spilled salsa on his hand.

cosmo20002 02-12-2015 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 11321741)
If only Tuco's gang knew what what going to happen to them in about 10 years. LMAO


What happened to No-Doze 10 years later was for speaking up out of turn, if I recall. Can't say he hadn't been warned.

cosmo20002 02-12-2015 12:13 AM

Just wondering...is there some informal CP rule for using the 'Spoiler' thing?

I kinda feel like on a weekly show, if you haven't watched it by the next day it aired, you take a risk coming in here.

Dunit35 02-12-2015 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 11323203)
Just wondering...is there some informal CP rule for using the 'Spoiler' thing?

I kinda feel like on a weekly show, if you haven't watched it by the next day it aired, you take a risk coming in here.

I don't come into here or the TWD thread until I catch up.

Fire Me Boy! 02-12-2015 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 11323203)
Just wondering...is there some informal CP rule for using the 'Spoiler' thing?



I kinda feel like on a weekly show, if you haven't watched it by the next day it aired, you take a risk coming in here.


That's it. Anything AFTER it's aired is fair game.

For something like TWD, most courtesy spoiler anything from the comics.

raybec 4 02-12-2015 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 11317755)
Yes, that's it.
I did think it was a little confusing though. That was a flash-forward (I assume). And he made the Cinnabon in Omaha quip in the past.
That seems like an oddly specific quip for it to actually come true. It made me re-think the time line for a second.
Maybe he had an 'in' at Cinnabon and knew he could get a manager gig there?
Just seems weird.

I also recall Saul trying to sell Jesse that same nail shop his office was in to launder his money.

notorious 02-12-2015 09:08 AM

Watch Breaking Bad episode 8. It was an awesome episode from beginning to end.


Saul's introduction. LMAO

He even tells Walt his real name is "McGill".

stumppy 02-12-2015 09:37 AM

:banghead:

Damnit, I missed it.

Chiefspants 02-12-2015 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by stumppy (Post 11323458)
:banghead:

Damnit, I missed it.

Both episodes are free watches on AMC's website!

Buehler445 02-12-2015 01:31 PM

Finally caught the two episodes.

I thought they were really good. Maybe better than the first two of Breaking Bad.

I was sure I'd tire of Saul's schtick where he talks fast and babbles out jokes, but it was really toned down and a lot of other very good acting filled the void. Depending on where the story goes, this could be very very good.

mr. tegu 02-12-2015 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 11323409)
Watch Breaking Bad episode 8. It was an awesome episode from beginning to end.


Saul's introduction. LMAO

He even tells Walt his real name is "McGill".

I watched it today as well to see his introduction. Definitely a great episode but I was surprised it was not until near the end of season 2 that he showed up. He became such an integral part of the story that I forgot how long he wasn't involved.

Buck 02-12-2015 11:40 PM

Holy shit that feeling at the end of every episode is exactly the feeling at the end of every BB episode. WHY DOES IT HAVE TO END NOW?!?!

Gonzo 02-13-2015 12:10 AM

I watched the first two episodes tonight on PSTV. Excellent show IMHO. You can see where he met his team, how he got into the game and how his personality changed.

I think this has a lot of potential.

frankotank 02-13-2015 02:46 PM

can't wait to see how mike goes from parking lot booth guy to private dick / stone cold killer

BWillie 02-13-2015 03:23 PM

Loved the intro in Ep 1, the flash forward black & white scene. Goes back to when he told Walt he could make him disappear, or something along the lines you don't want to be a Omaha Cinnabon Manager.

NewChief 02-13-2015 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by frankotank (Post 11325430)
can't wait to see how mike goes from parking lot booth guy to private dick / stone cold killer

He was a stone cold killer from back east (dirty cop) before ending up in the ABQ. So he's already that, he's just hiding out (or something) as a parking booth attendant.

Deberg_1990 02-13-2015 06:16 PM

Funny bit, but would Saul really keep forgetting over and over again his parking stickers?

Buehler445 02-13-2015 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 11325656)
Funny bit, but would Saul really keep forgetting over and over again his parking stickers?

They short him.

BWillie 02-14-2015 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 11325656)
Funny bit, but would Saul really keep forgetting over and over again his parking stickers?

The clerk at the courthouse doesnt like him, so she shorts him on the stickers. You can see at the end of ep2 he brings her an offering or something.

Hilarious bit where Saul/McGill calls hima Troll...Under a Bridge...in the tone and delivery that only Saul makes loveable

DeezNutz 02-14-2015 06:07 PM

Un****ingbelievable first two episodes. Amazing beginning to the series.

All the brilliance of BB without waiting for producers to hit their stride.

mdchiefsfan 02-14-2015 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 11326723)
Un****ingbelievable first two episodes. Amazing beginning to the series.

All the brilliance of BB without waiting for producers to hit their stride.

Exactly how I felt. They have been there and done it. Now they are just presenting it and starting it right.

Buck 02-14-2015 06:14 PM

What day is this on? I went to DVR it for Sunday and it wasn't listed.

BWillie 02-14-2015 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Buck (Post 11326728)
What day is this on? I went to DVR it for Sunday and it wasn't listed.

Get a new DVR IMO

Next ep is Sunday Feb 16th

Sfeihc 02-14-2015 07:06 PM

My DVR is set to record ep. 3 @ 10pm EST on MONDAY 2/16.

KCFalcon59 02-14-2015 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 11326730)
Get a new DVR IMO

Next ep is Sunday Feb 16th

Someone needs to get a new calendar! :p

kchero 02-16-2015 10:31 PM

Great episode tonight. Comedic timing with fascinating story line.

Buehler445 02-16-2015 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by kchero (Post 11330899)
Great episode tonight. Comedic timing with fascinating story line.

I like it.

mr. tegu 02-16-2015 11:12 PM

I missed the first few minutes (then again when it repeated), was Saul in jail supposed to be events from post Breaking Bad?

BWillie 02-16-2015 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 11330985)
I missed the first few minutes (then again when it repeated), was Saul in jail supposed to be events from post Breaking Bad?

I took it as Jimmy was younger and screwed up. And his brother saved him. I think we will find out that his brother Charles got him out of that jam..and as a result Jimmy grew up and became an attorney. I think its alao why he feels he owes his brother and wants to help him so much

Buehler445 02-17-2015 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 11331008)
I took it as Jimmy was younger and screwed up. And his brother saved him. I think we will find out that his brother Charles got him out of that jam..and as a result Jimmy grew up and became an attorney. I think its alao why he feels he owes his brother and wants to help him so much

This. It was his insane dying brother that he was trying to get to sue the company in the first episode.

Baby Lee 02-17-2015 11:57 AM

What I really liked structurally, was when the poop brown station wagon drove away, at first I was like 'wasn't she picking her kids up from school, then 'I don't think that's the same house.

But the pace in that scene was so frenetic I couldn't be sure I was right.

Man Gilligan is getting lazy in his writing?

Then 'oh shit!' They hit a different poop brown station wagon. Then the reveal of who's house it was.

It's satisfying when a show maintains those inconsistencies until just the time when the implications hit home.

Sorry for mistrusting you Gilligan, after the plane crash season of BB, I should have known you know story structure.

Baby Lee 02-17-2015 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 11331084)
This. It was his insane dying brother that he was trying to get to sue the company in the first episode.

I don't think he's dying. He's becoming more and more unhinged and paranoid and can't stop himself. Sad thing is he knows he standing in the way of his own return to the world.

Speculation, not spoiler. But I think Charles will get better as Jimmy descends into Saul, and there will be a big showdown between them.

Gonzo 02-17-2015 12:04 PM

I'm really enjoying the show. I know Saul is going to end up being one of those enigmatic characters like WW where you know he's a shitbag but you can't help but root for him. I kinda hope when the show ends, it will show Saul doing something awesome about his Cinnabon situation.

L.A. Chieffan 02-17-2015 01:54 PM

Honestly I can't remember off the top off my head what happened to Saul at the end of BB. Did he go into the program or is he on the run? **** my memory sucks.

'Hamas' Jenkins 02-17-2015 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by L.A. Chieffan (Post 11331826)
Honestly I can't remember off the top off my head what happened to Saul at the end of BB. Did he go into the program or is he on the run? **** my memory sucks.

The fixer made him a new identity. He manages a Cinnabon in Omaha, NE.

'Hamas' Jenkins 02-17-2015 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 11331008)
I took it as Jimmy was younger and screwed up. And his brother saved him. I think we will find out that his brother Charles got him out of that jam..and as a result Jimmy grew up and became an attorney. I think its alao why he feels he owes his brother and wants to help him so much

The massive cell phone was a bit of a giveaway :)

L.A. Chieffan 02-17-2015 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 11331829)
The fixer made him a new identity. He manages a Cinnabon in Omaha, NE.

Yea I figured that out from the opening of the new show but I was trying to remember why he had to go on the run especially since everybody is pretty much dead by the end of BB

L.A. Chieffan 02-17-2015 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 11331835)
The massive cell phone was a bit of a giveaway :)

They said Johnny Cochran, famous for his Chewbacca defense, died from those things

Pitt Gorilla 02-17-2015 02:02 PM

It's been wonderful up to this point. The only thing that vexes me is why that girl would (seemingly) have interest in him.

BWillie 02-17-2015 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 11331835)
The massive cell phone was a bit of a giveaway :)

Eerily similar to how Saul has to put his cell phone in the mailbox every time he goes to his brothers

Baby Lee 02-17-2015 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 11331866)
It's been wonderful up to this point. The only thing that vexes me is why that girl would (seemingly) have interest in him.

I think it wasn't intended to be about her interest. That was just the random bar potential hookup. To a stranger, he's an objectively attractive dude and a smooth talker. It was about how he was swirling out of control, getting sloppy drunk and freaking out about the broken bread-stick.

Pitt Gorilla 02-17-2015 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 11332162)
I think it wasn't intended to be about her interest. That was just the random bar potential hookup. To a stranger, he's an objectively attractive dude and a smooth talker. It was about how he was swirling out of control, getting sloppy drunk and freaking out about the broken bread-stick.

I meant the girl from the law firm.

Baby Lee 02-17-2015 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 11332751)
I meant the girl from the law firm.

That was a partner [she was in the boardroom I think] who he was pleading with for support in his case for Charlie. They've presumably known each other for a while and she knows the legitimacy of Charlie's legacy.

She's a big name, in the opening credits, Rhea Seahorn who I assume will have an ongoing role.

Sure-Oz 02-17-2015 09:24 PM

Really enjoying this show. What is wrong with Saul's brother? Mental illness that makes him physically sick? Intentionally not having power on or electronics...weird

Baby Lee 02-17-2015 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 11332988)
Really enjoying this show. What is wrong with Saul's brother? Mental illness that makes him physically sick? Intentionally not having power on or electronics...weird

Best guess he probably needs help [or thinks he does] from these folks.

http://www.emfanalysis.com/emf-refugee/

3rd Episode was better than the first two. Really knocking it out from the get go.

Gonzo 02-18-2015 08:54 AM

I was really thinking that this show was going to be completely different for some reason. Just something they threw together to make it a comedy. I had no hope for it to be anything like BB. I am happily wrong.

Baby Lee 02-18-2015 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Gonzo (Post 11333522)
I was really thinking that this show was going to be completely different for some reason. Just something they threw together to make it a comedy. I had no hope for it to be anything like BB. I am happily wrong.

I was thinking it had the promise of being the new best show in TV, but I caught up on Justified and it remains as good as ever.

Tough call.

RockChalk 02-18-2015 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 11333550)
I was thinking it had the promise of being the new best show in TV, but I caught up on Justified and it remains as good as ever.

Tough call.

I wish that I could find Justified from the beginning online somewhere. Damn you Netflix, pick it up!

Baby Lee 02-18-2015 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by RockChalk (Post 11333653)
I wish that I could find Justified from the beginning online somewhere. Damn you Netflix, pick it up!

The first season is different from the others, in that it was more case of the week with progress on the meta-story interspersed.

From then on, it's more in the vein of Breaking Bad of a season arc and full meta-story building off the first season's.

I say that for two reasons. The first season feels a little more conventional television. And it probably is best to start from the beginning, but ignore any queasiness you might feel until you've a good belly full of the EXCELLENT second.

Buehler445 02-18-2015 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by RockChalk (Post 11333653)
I wish that I could find Justified from the beginning online somewhere. Damn you Netflix, pick it up!

If you have Prime you can watch it.

ragedogg69 02-18-2015 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 11331008)
I took it as Jimmy was younger and screwed up. And his brother saved him. I think we will find out that his brother Charles got him out of that jam..and as a result Jimmy grew up and became an attorney. I think its alao why he feels he owes his brother and wants to help him so much

"Slippin' Jimmy"

Sure-Oz 02-18-2015 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockChalk (Post 11333653)
I wish that I could find Justified from the beginning online somewhere. Damn you Netflix, pick it up!

Amazon Prime has it

Sure-Oz 02-18-2015 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 11333114)
Best guess he probably needs help [or thinks he does] from these folks.

http://www.emfanalysis.com/emf-refugee/

3rd Episode was better than the first two. Really knocking it out from the get go.

Wow. So weird...kinda neat to bring this on the show

RockChalk 02-18-2015 01:59 PM

Ok, maybe I should go get Amazon prime then. Thanks!

Buehler445 02-18-2015 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by RockChalk (Post 11334127)
Ok, maybe I should go get Amazon prime then. Thanks!

Yeah, I look at it as if Justified costs $30 a season and there are 6 season, youve pajd almost 2 years worth by watching it on prime. Before, netflix and amazon had a lot of the same stuff. But they've kind of went away from that.

Falling skies is on prime also. Dollhouse. So there are some other thIngs you can see.

You really need to get it for subscribe and save and prime shipping. id pay for that wothout the tv.

frankotank 02-18-2015 03:12 PM

I too am so so happy that this doesn't seem to be going towards a purely comedic tangent. I am so surprised at the "BB-ish" direction and I'm loving it.

so.....can't help but wonder....is Team Kettleman toast? the kids have now seen the money (if they hadn't before) so they may not even be spared. Nacho trying to get those duckets behind Tuco's back....oh man.....

https://31.media.tumblr.com/5f446783...UHx1s7n34y.jpg

mr. tegu 02-23-2015 04:40 PM

The new episode is tonight in case anyone forgot.

Baby Lee 02-23-2015 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 11343576)
The new episode is tonight in case anyone forgot.

I've been waiting for it like a heroin fix.

kchero 02-23-2015 10:13 PM

Im digging the direction this show is going. Also, the Rush fan in me dug the poster plug they did during his flashback while he was in the basement with his scam partner.

notorious 02-24-2015 12:16 AM

Fairly predictable but still entertaining.

Baby Lee 02-24-2015 12:20 AM

Holy Shit!! I forgot I even had some Herbie Mann on vinyl

Reminds me of my Spyro Gyra phase

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mikeyis4dcats. 02-25-2015 10:16 AM

so...did Saul pay the guy to fall of the billboard, or was it coincidence?


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