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Prison Bitch 07-06-2021 10:11 AM

Kimo doesn’t think it’s possible the staff was surprised by Ochai’s decision.


If we believe the info about us talking to Marcus Carr, that’s kinda the tell. No?

BigRedChief 07-06-2021 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 15731671)
Must’ve gotten bad feedback from the NBA

I'm just a fan but I’ve seen a lot of his play. From my n00b eyes, there is no way he’s ready to play in the NBA next year.

KC_Connection 07-06-2021 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 15731726)
I'm just a fan but I’ve seen a lot of his play. From my n00b eyes, there is no way he’s ready to play in the NBA next year.

Other than perhaps his defense, he does nothing at a NBA level. It’s probably the best decision for him unless he was absolutely determined to start making money right away in Europe or the G League (and it seems he wasn’t).

BWillie 07-06-2021 11:08 AM

Remy Martin per this list has officially declared for the NBA Draft meaning attending Kansas is off the table. https://t.co/WS2ONr7EZi— Tim Ring (@timringTV) July 6, 2021

:(

Hope it is not true, not a great source.

CasselGotPeedOn 07-06-2021 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 15731759)
Remy Martin per this list has officially declared for the NBA Draft meaning attending Kansas is off the table. https://t.co/WS2ONr7EZi— Tim Ring (@timringTV) July 6, 2021

:(

Hope it is not true, not a great source.

He's listed as likely undrafted and didn't hire an agent. I'd be shocked if he isn't at KU this season.

KC_Connection 07-06-2021 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 15731759)
Remy Martin per this list has officially declared for the NBA Draft meaning attending Kansas is off the table. https://t.co/WS2ONr7EZi— Tim Ring (@timringTV) July 6, 2021

:(

Hope it is not true, not a great source.

This guy has no idea what he's talking about and is citing something he doesn't understand (Chad Ford's Big Board projects Martin as a player who has declared for the draft but will likely be undrafted).

Martin (like Agbaji and Wilson) had already previously declared for the draft. The question is whether he's choosing to stay in the draft which will be decided at some point in the next day.

Kiimo 07-06-2021 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 15731731)
Other than perhaps his defense, he does nothing at a NBA level. It’s probably the best decision for him unless he was absolutely determined to start making money right away in Europe or the G League (and it seems he wasn’t).


NIL helps with this I'm sure



Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 15731680)
Kimo doesn’t think it’s possible the staff was surprised by Ochai’s decision.


If we believe the info about us talking to Marcus Carr, that’s kinda the tell. No?



I have no insider info whatsoever just teasing

Kiimo 07-06-2021 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 15731759)
Remy Martin per this list has officially declared for the NBA Draft meaning attending Kansas is off the table. https://t.co/WS2ONr7EZi— Tim Ring (@timringTV) July 6, 2021

:(

Hope it is not true, not a great source.

Already deleted

Prison Bitch 07-06-2021 11:30 AM

Be a bite in the ass if we’re talking to Carr because of Remy.

KC_Connection 07-06-2021 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 15731776)
Be a bite in the ass if we’re talking to Carr because of Remy.

The team is top 5 with or without Remy. Would be nice to have the scoring though.

CasselGotPeedOn 07-06-2021 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 15731788)
The team is top 5 with or without Remy. Would be nice to have the scoring though.

They are absolutely not a top 5 team without Martin. That's absurd.

BWillie 07-06-2021 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CasselGotPeedOn (Post 15731799)
They are absolutely not a top 5 team without Martin. That's absurd.

I believe in Yesufu so I think they are either way, as well.

smithandrew051 07-06-2021 12:00 PM

With Remy Martin, this perimeter is insanely deep. You have to think a few young guys will be forced into redshirts.

The front court is pretty decent too. A lot to be excited about there with adding Clemence and Cam Martin. Lightfoot can give decent minutes too.

If no one redshirts, we can run 12-13 deep.

Prison Bitch 07-06-2021 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 15731824)
Lightfoot can give decent minutes too.

I’ve heard this so many times over so many years if feels like the movie “Groundhog Day”


Quote:

If no one redshirts, we can run 12-13 deep.
He’s never gone past 8 or 9.

CasselGotPeedOn 07-06-2021 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 15731824)
With Remy Martin, this perimeter is insanely deep. You have to think a few young guys will be forced into redshirts.

The front court is pretty decent too. A lot to be excited about there with adding Clemence and Cam Martin. Lightfoot can give decent minutes too.

If no one redshirts, we can run 12-13 deep.

Did the Men in Black come and wipe your memory of the last few years?

smithandrew051 07-06-2021 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 15731830)
I’ve heard this so many times over so many years if feels like the movie “Groundhog Day”




He’s never gone past 8 or 9.

Lightfoot is what he is. He can play 10 solid minutes a game without losing the game, but will never be more than that.

Self ran pretty deep in 2010. 9 is normally the max though. I fully expect 2-3 redshirts. I’d be shocked if that didn’t happen.

You also have guys like the aforementioned Lightfoot who will take a spot and just play as they’re allowed to. So we might run a man or 2 deeper than usual, but their minutes won’t be guaranteed by any stretch.

ROYC75 07-06-2021 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 15731525)
Agbaji is back. KU is gonna be absolutely stacked next season.

Bill is going to have to do a good job of keeping the boys happy.

KC_Connection 07-06-2021 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CasselGotPeedOn (Post 15731799)
They are absolutely not a top 5 team without Martin. That's absurd.

https://barttorvik.com/rostercast.ph...artin%3BKansas

The stats would beg to differ there. Also common sense as well.

Kiimo 07-06-2021 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 15731842)
Lightfoot is what he is. He can play 10 solid minutes a game without losing the game, but will never be more than that.

Self ran pretty deep in 2010. 9 is normally the max though. I fully expect 2-3 redshirts. I’d be shocked if that didn’t happen.

You also have guys like the aforementioned Lightfoot who will take a spot and just play as they’re allowed to. So we might run a man or 2 deeper than usual, but their minutes won’t be guaranteed by any stretch.



Lightfoot is really good at dominating when we play midmajors.



Because he probably should have played at one

sedated 07-06-2021 12:25 PM

Report read on 610am just said Remy Martin to withdraw from draft and play at KU. Can't find online yet though

KC_Connection 07-06-2021 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sedated (Post 15731864)
Report read on 610am just said Remy Martin to withdraw from draft and play at KU. Can't find online yet though

Jon Rothstein just reported it, so it's more or less confirmed.

Now KU is ridiculously stacked.

Kiimo 07-06-2021 12:26 PM

BOOM



<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Breaking: Remy Martin is returning to Kansas <br><br>Per <a href="https://twitter.com/JonRothstein?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@JonRothstein</a> <a href="https://t.co/avyW6lnzPu">https://t.co/avyW6lnzPu</a></p>&mdash; JayhawkFocus (@JayhawkFocus) <a href="https://twitter.com/JayhawkFocus/status/1412477962142822402?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 6, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

KC_Connection 07-06-2021 12:32 PM

Certainly won't have an issue scoring the ball now. Wilson and Agbaji can just hang on the perimeter all day shooting threes and never have to dribble at all.

DanBecky 07-06-2021 12:32 PM

Good God, the depth is insane. Could field two teams. Might as well go all out and full court press this year.

CasselGotPeedOn 07-06-2021 12:33 PM

Now we're a top 5 team...

KC_Connection 07-06-2021 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CasselGotPeedOn (Post 15731880)
Now we're a top 5 team...

Top 2 team now, I'd say. Only Zaga can compare.

Starting lineup might look something like this:

PG: Martin
SG: Yesufu
SF: Agbaji
PF: Wilson
C: McCormack

First off bench: Harris, Braun (hopefully he's not getting much more than 10-15 min a game on this roster now), Coleman Lands, Martin, Clemence

Others: Adams, Pettiford, Lightfoot (who may never play again)

CasselGotPeedOn 07-06-2021 12:45 PM

That's the starting lineup I'm hoping for. Braun is solid bench player, nothing more.

Kiimo 07-06-2021 12:47 PM

Cam Martin could very well demand minutes

ROYC75 07-06-2021 12:53 PM

SO WHO WILL TAKE US DOWN?

I do not think the Zags are any better, IMHO an equal.

NCAA might do it!

Fansy the Famous Bard 07-06-2021 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 15731661)
So much for PB’s insider info

I for one appreciate legit insider info when given. Having grown up in Lawrence I had an insider on the football team through several coaching turnovers... that eventually dried up about a decade ago and it is discouraging not having that insight anymore. PB's source has been really good from what he's shared. Keep 'em coming.

Kiimo 07-06-2021 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROYC75 (Post 15731926)
SO WHO WILL TAKE US DOWN?

I do not think the Zags are any better, IMHO an equal.

NCAA might do it!

I mentioned earlier in the thread if Cockburn goes to Kentucky that's a legit contender.

ROYC75 07-06-2021 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 15731961)
I mentioned earlier in the thread if Cockburn goes to Kentucky that's a legit contender.

Kentucky always has a jelling issue with Cal unless the talent is so over willingly gross it takes over for his lack of coaching. Cal has always won on talent, has never had a team with less talent and won on a consistency basis.

Kiimo 07-06-2021 01:34 PM

Switching gears a bit since it makes me sick to talk about Kentucky...

I am starting to wonder if NIL is going to save college basketball.

I think a lot of guys don't even need that much cash. If you have a scholarship but can make like 20 grand extra on some endorsement that might be all the extra money you need to decide to stick around an extra year or avoid going overseas. I can't believe it happened so fast to be honest.

Also colleges have better name recognition than G league does. If Self doesn't have to worry about getting in trouble over kids making a little extra cash and that whole plausible deniability thing with Adidas ceases to exist then I think it could benefit our program a ton.

Think about Brandon Rush, who only came back from the draft because he got hurt and then KU won a championship with him.

It's an exciting time and a total 180 from the worry I had about the G league ruining college basketball.

Mr. Plow 07-06-2021 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 15731893)
Top 2 team now, I'd say. Only Zaga can compare.

Starting lineup might look something like this:

PG: Martin
SG: Yesufu
SF: Agbaji
PF: Wilson
C: McCormack

First off bench: Harris, Braun (hopefully he's not getting much more than 10-15 min a game on this roster now), Coleman Lands, Martin, Clemence

Others: Adams, Pettiford, Lightfoot (who may never play again)

I'm hoping Braun doesn't see the floor much, but Self loves him some vet players that shouldn't be starting but are starting for some unknown reason.

smithandrew051 07-06-2021 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Plow (Post 15732019)
I'm hoping Braun doesn't see the floor much, but Self loves him some vet players that shouldn't be starting but are starting for some unknown reason.

Self needs to let Braun shoot once. If it goes in, he can keep playing. If he misses, he’s on the bench the rest of the game.

smithandrew051 07-06-2021 02:23 PM

Self loves playing 2 point guards, and now we have 4. Set for this year and next.

smithandrew051 07-06-2021 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 15731893)
Top 2 team now, I'd say. Only Zaga can compare.

Starting lineup might look something like this:

PG: Martin
SG: Yesufu
SF: Agbaji
PF: Wilson
C: McCormack

First off bench: Harris, Braun (hopefully he's not getting much more than 10-15 min a game on this roster now), Coleman Lands, Martin, Clemence

Others: Adams, Pettiford, Lightfoot (who may never play again)

This definitely looks right to me.

I’m really excited to see what Clemence and Cam Martin can do off the bench.

Can Martin can light it up from 3. Hell of a weapon coming off the bench.

ROYC75 07-06-2021 02:58 PM

UK will be a bigger threat if Carr lands there.

IMHO, I see Carr going overseas for a year or 2 to further his skills! He is wanting $$$ now.

BigRedChief 07-06-2021 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Plow (Post 15732019)
I'm hoping Braun doesn't see the floor much, but Self loves him some vet players that shouldn't be starting but are starting for some unknown reason.

Self is the best coach in college BB. Have to take the bad tendencies with the good.:)

Kiimo 07-06-2021 03:01 PM

Transfers ranked:


https://www.espn.com/mens-college-ba...nkings-2021-22


If the top two go to Kentucky that's a problem

ROYC75 07-06-2021 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 15732138)
Transfers ranked:


https://www.espn.com/mens-college-ba...nkings-2021-22


If the top two go to Kentucky that's a problem

That it would, Carr more than Cockburn IMHO.

smithandrew051 07-06-2021 05:37 PM

Call your shot:

Final Regular Season National Ranking:
Big 12 Finish:
Big 12 Tourney Champs:
NCAA Tournament Finish:

smithandrew051 07-06-2021 05:39 PM

Final Regular Season National Ranking: 3
Big 12 Finish: 1st
Big 12 Tourney Champs: Yes
NCAA Tournament Finish: Lose in National Semifinal (Final Four)

Chief Pagan 07-06-2021 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 15731863)
Lightfoot is really good at dominating when we play midmajors.



Because he probably should have played at one

It's nice to be able to run a competent, if not flashy, big body out there if the other guys are in foul trouble. Of course its nicer just to keep better players out there to begin with.

DJay23 07-06-2021 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 15732293)
Call your shot:

Final Regular Season National Ranking:
Big 12 Finish:
Big 12 Tourney Champs:
NCAA Tournament Finish:

Final Regular Season National Ranking: 4th
Big 12 Finish: 1st
Big 12 Tourney Champs: No
NCAA Tournament Finish: National Runner Up

ROYC75 07-06-2021 09:56 PM

Final Regular Season National Ranking: 1st or 2nd ( Depending on Zags schedule )
Big 12 Finish: 1st
Big 12 Tourney Champs: Yes
NCAA Tournament Finish: 1st

I like the make up of this team along with the fire in Bill's belly from last year's embarrassment to USC.

BWillie 07-06-2021 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Plow (Post 15732019)
I'm hoping Braun doesn't see the floor much, but Self loves him some vet players that shouldn't be starting but are starting for some unknown reason.

If Braun gets his minutes reduced dramatically then that means we are going to be really, really good.

And Im telling ya, I think Cam Martin can play. It would not surprise me if hes 2nd on the team behind Remy in points per minute. Probably still won't get huge minutes as I expect him to be behind defensively a bit but a great sparkplug.

PHOG 07-07-2021 08:53 AM

Final Regular Season National Ranking: 2
Big 12 Finish: 1
Big 12 Tourney Champs: yes
NCAA Tournament Finish: 1st

BWillie 07-07-2021 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PHOG (Post 15732773)
Final Regular Season National Ranking: 2
Big 12 Finish: 1
Big 12 Tourney Champs: yes
NCAA Tournament Finish: 1st

Final Regular Season National Ranking: 3
Big 12 Finish: 1
Big 12 Tourney Champs: no
NCAA Tournament Finish: Elite 8

BWillie 07-07-2021 09:41 AM

The Jayhawks have an 18-person roster with these covid rules and increased amt of player eligibility. I know everyone won't have Cam Martin in the starting line up, but what if he's good enough?

DEPTH CHART

Remy Martin (buckets!!)
Ochai Agbaji (look for him to increase his efficiency with more alleyoops & spot up 3s)
Jalen Wilson (needs to show NBA he can guard the 3)
Cam Martin (you'll see - Trust in Jeff Boschee)
David McCormack (I want to see him shoot 1.0 threes per game)
---------
DaJuan Harris (my guy is still going to play, and play alot)
Joseph Yesufu (Remy Martin 2.0)
Christian Braun (Hopefully avgs less than 15 mpg)
Jalen Coleman-Lands (The next Isaiah Moss, the dude is ****ing 25 years old)
Zach Clemence (might surprise people, but won't likely get much of a chance since we are so loaded)
KJ Adams Jr (the next player that Self will like way too much)
Mitch Lightfoot (provides comedic relief on the bench)
Bobby Pettiford (good RS candidate)
Kyle Cuffe Jr (feel bad for him, reclassified to 2021 just to ride the pine)
Chris Teahan (fire crotch, leader of Kansas JV squad)
Dillon Wilhite (good walk on)
Michael Jankovich (good walk on, can actually shoot)
Charlie McCarthy (walk on)

Prison Bitch 07-07-2021 10:11 AM

Anyone hear the rumor about Jerremce “snacks” Howard and the dick pic?

ROYC75 07-07-2021 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 15732783)
Final Regular Season National Ranking: 3
Big 12 Finish: 1
Big 12 Tourney Champs: no
NCAA Tournament Finish: Elite 8

You love certain players and yet you have no faith in them coming together to even make the championship game?

Talking about a fan with no faith! :rolleyes:

BWillie 07-07-2021 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROYC75 (Post 15733071)
You love certain players and yet you have no faith in them coming together to even make the championship game?

Talking about a fan with no faith! :rolleyes:

KU has been the 1st or 2nd best team in the country probably 10 times in the last 25 years and have made 2 championship games. Law of averages. S16 or Final Four finishes both would not surprise me in the slightest.

Titty Meat 07-07-2021 12:37 PM

Carr would be a hell of a get but I think hes going to a Texas

Fansy the Famous Bard 07-07-2021 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 15733246)
Carr would be a hell of a get but I think hes going to a Texas

I think KU's roster is entirely too crowded for him to consider Lawrence seriously at this point.

Ceej 07-07-2021 01:07 PM

Can't believe the team Self has now compared to last year's.

Night and ****ing day.

Fansy the Famous Bard 07-07-2021 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ceej (Post 15733307)
Can't believe the team Self has now compared to last year's.

Night and ****ing day.

Yeah, it is a complete overhaul. It needed it.

Titty Meat 07-07-2021 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fansy the Famous Bard (Post 15733306)
I think KU's roster is entirely too crowded for him to consider Lawrence seriously at this point.

Yup it's literally 2 tournament teams put into 1.

smithandrew051 07-07-2021 04:53 PM

I need Fall to hurry up and get here. Only having the Royals on sucks.

I need Chiefs football and KU basketball. I feel pretty confident one of my teams will win a title this year.

Kiimo 07-08-2021 03:19 PM

I think Marcus Garrett made a mistake not coming back. I'd love to see him at the 2 and 3 with this group

ROYC75 07-09-2021 03:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 15733201)
KU has been the 1st or 2nd best team in the country probably 10 times in the last 25 years and have made 2 championship games. Law of averages. S16 or Final Four finishes both would not surprise me in the slightest.

While your comments and statistics are valid, this team is loaded! Anything short of a Championship title game appearance is a colossal failure!

lawrenceRaider 07-09-2021 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 15734713)
I think Marcus Garrett made a mistake not coming back. I'd love to see him at the 2 and 3 with this group

While we may miss his Defense, his limited offense won't be missed.

smithandrew051 07-09-2021 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider (Post 15735233)
While we may miss his Defense, his limited offense won't be missed.

Agreed. He was great two years ago when we were absolutely elite defensively. When we’re not great defensively (which we won’t be), it’s probably better to just load up offensively and outscore everyone.

He would give us more balance, but probably keep us from having an elite offense and wouldn’t elevate us to an elite defense.

Buehler445 07-09-2021 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider (Post 15735233)
While we may miss his Defense, his limited offense won't be missed.

From a technical perspective, sure.

But I miss the guy. Dude had want-to, played hard, played in big moments. Nothing to fault with Marcus Garrett. But yeah, he was limited offensively.

BigRedChief 07-09-2021 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 15735249)
From a technical perspective, sure.

But I miss the guy. Dude had want-to, played hard, played in big moments. Nothing to fault with Marcus Garrett. But yeah, he was limited offensively.

He always gave you 100%. But, he should never have been the point guard. We need to score. The team clears out to the edges and the plan is for Garrett, alone, to drive and beat the defense? Thats a very low point in this era.

Lzen 07-09-2021 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 15735257)
He always gave you 100%. But, he should never have been the point guard. We need to score. The team clears out to the edges and the plan is for Garrett, alone, to drive and beat the defense? Thats a very low point in this era.

Agreed. Garret was never a good fit at PG. Much better as a 2 or 3, IMO.

BWillie 07-09-2021 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROYC75 (Post 15735121)
While your comments and statistics are valid, this team is loaded! Anything short of a Championship title game appearance is a colossal failure!

I used to think that way but it's hard to control results in the NCAA Tournament. I feel like if you go to the Final Four it's always a successful season no matter what.

BWillie 07-09-2021 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider (Post 15735233)
While we may miss his Defense, his limited offense won't be missed.

He's like Ben Simmons. It kills your spacing offensively. Coaches love him, and he has value but in today's game I'm not sure it's as much as Bill thinks it is.

BWillie 07-09-2021 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 15735257)
He always gave you 100%. But, he should never have been the point guard. We need to score. The team clears out to the edges and the plan is for Garrett, alone, to drive and beat the defense? Thats a very low point in this era.

I'll admit. I expected more from him at the PG. He showed good passing acumen in the years before and was a PG in high school - it just didn't come together for him. Without Doke and Dot his assist numbers actually dropped his JR year from 4.6 to 3.7 his SR year when he was given much more minutes at PG. I guess having to play with one-dimensional players in Bruan and Agbaji and more of a plodding bigman in McCormack took it's toll.

KC_Connection 07-09-2021 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 15735342)
He's like Ben Simmons. It kills your spacing offensively. Coaches love him, and he has value but in today's game I'm not sure it's as much as Bill thinks it is.

I'll take Ben Simmons all day, every day as an off-ball 3rd or 4th offensive option on a team. You run into problems when he becomes a top scoring option, which is what Garrett last year became by default.

BWillie 07-09-2021 12:07 PM

Trajan Font > 90's Circus Font

WHY DO PEOPLE LOVE THE CIRCUS FONT SO MUCH

I guess my Nostalgia is from 2008 and not 1988.

Kiimo 07-09-2021 12:10 PM

My nostalgia goes back to around 85 but Circus Font sucks and is nothing more than a once a season throwback. Clown nonsense.



Also on twitter Self has the guys running sprints up Campanile and the suburban boomer dad side of my personality likes this. Sitting in the air conditioning on my couch watching Remember The Titans and feeling like I accomplished something. That kind of energy.

Buehler445 07-09-2021 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 15735342)
He's like Ben Simmons. It kills your spacing offensively. Coaches love him, and he has value but in today's game I'm not sure it's as much as Bill thinks it is.

To his credit hes a much much much more willing scorer than Simmons. How many games did Simmons have 0 4th quarter points?

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 15735350)
I'll admit. I expected more from him at the PG. He showed good passing acumen in the years before and was a PG in high school - it just didn't come together for him. Without Doke and Dot his assist numbers actually dropped his JR year from 4.6 to 3.7 his SR year when he was given much more minutes at PG. I guess having to play with one-dimensional players in Bruan and Agbaji and more of a plodding bigman in McCormack took it's toll.

I think the big thing is he’s not a creator. If we had one last year I think he could have effectively fed them and worked the offense around them. But they asked him to be it and that’s a tough sell for that particular guy.

Buehler445 07-09-2021 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 15735395)
I'll take Ben Simmons all day, every day as an off-ball 3rd or 4th offensive option on a team. You run into problems when he becomes a top scoring option, which is what Garrett last year became by default.

Kcc beat me to it.

lawrenceRaider 07-09-2021 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 15735249)
From a technical perspective, sure.

But I miss the guy. Dude had want-to, played hard, played in big moments. Nothing to fault with Marcus Garrett. But yeah, he was limited offensively.

I'll miss him as well, but I won't miss the clanks.

Buehler445 07-09-2021 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider (Post 15735571)
I'll miss him as well, but I won't miss the clanks.

If take the clanks over the getting stuffed in the lane. A lot of those led to transition points.

RockChalk 07-09-2021 08:30 PM

Curious if PB has heard this, but I spoke with a very credible source who told me that Kofi Cockburn’s people reached out to the staff the other day about a spot on the team. Obviously someone would have to go or they could figure out something with NIL $$$. Also possible this is a power move to get a better deal from UK.

Take it as a rumor. Just passing along what I was told.

Prison Bitch 07-09-2021 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by RockChalk (Post 15736076)
Curious if PB has heard this, but I spoke with a very credible source who told me that Kofi Cockburn’s people reached out to the staff the other day about a spot on the team. Obviously someone would have to go or they could figure out something with NIL $$$. Also possible this is a power move to get a better deal from UK.

Take it as a rumor. Just passing along what I was told.

I have not.

But damn do I love a juicy rumor.

(Btw Snacks was fired for the dick pic he posted tomsicsl media. That’s my source. KU was made aware of it and said “no mas”

BigRedChief 07-10-2021 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 15736108)
I have not.

But damn do I love a juicy rumor.

(Btw Snacks was fired for the dick pic he posted tomsicsl media. That’s my source. KU was made aware of it and said “no mas”

I understand and agree sending dick pics to people under you in an organization or unsolicited should be punished. Beyond that...........Are dick pics now deal breakers? You cant play college BB anymore?

RockChalk 07-10-2021 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 15736478)
I understand and agree sending dick pics to people under you in an organization or unsolicited should be punished. Beyond that...........Are dick pics now deal breakers? You cant play college BB anymore?

Yes. Snacks can no longer play college basketball


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