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BigCatDaddy 02-25-2024 03:27 PM

I'd imagine it would similar to the Tyreek/Adams trades and deal?

BWillie 02-25-2024 03:36 PM

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Bearcat 02-25-2024 03:36 PM

Give them 1st round picks in like 2038... works in Madden like 90% of the time.

Pablo 02-25-2024 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 17417106)
I'd imagine it would similar to the Tyreek/Adams trades and deal?

It's gonna be just a bit more than either of those. He's the perfect WR on a HOF trajectory and he's 25 in June.

Chris Meck 02-25-2024 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 17417090)

He never stops.

scho63 02-25-2024 03:41 PM

We have NEVER gotten this type of guy.

Will this be a first?

RealSNR 02-25-2024 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17417085)
Alphas not wanted.


Need to save the draft picks so we can get a MVS/Sky Moore hybrid instead.

You know, up until 5ish years ago it wasn't conventional for teams to build around their WRs. Yeah, they'd get highly drafted and they were important parts of the team, but the top guys weren't making near what they currently are in terms of % of the salary cap.

And thus far, I mean... other than the Chiefs in 2019, there isn't really a proof of concept that says this is a good strategy.

And yet here you are acting like the team is a failure if they don't spend X in such and such way on the position and instead choose to go elsewhere with their resources.

MahomesMagic 02-25-2024 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 17417123)
You know, up until 5ish years ago it wasn't conventional for teams to build around their WRs. Yeah, they'd get highly drafted and they were important parts of the team, but the top guys weren't making near what they currently are in terms of % of the salary cap.

And thus far, I mean... other than the Chiefs in 2019, there isn't really a proof of concept that says this is a good strategy.

And yet here you are acting like the team is a failure if they don't spend X in such and such way on the position and instead choose to go elsewhere with their resources.


The NFL has been trending this way recently. I remember having a conversation with a friend around 2016 or so and they just blurted out the NFL offenses are going to be more like the NBA. Just freak athletes running down the field and it's going to be hard to play defense against them.

I don't have a crystal ball. Veach could mismanage the offense and WR's again and we could 3peat by default if we get the right breaks, other teams choke , etc

But we have won ZERO SB's without an elite pass-catcher.

The first 1 we had 2 HOF weapons and Kelce has been the guy in the last two years.

Kelce was already aging out last year. It was nice he got on a run in the playoffs but the clock is ticking.

You don't just find another unicorn HOF TE like Kelce. Just getting a #1 WR is easier so why not start looking now?


That's my position and I don't get why that seems so radical.


Now back to Jeff, I expect the Vikings if this actually was true would want a top ten pick back as part of a large package and we don't have one of those.

If all they needed was the Tyreek package I pull the trigger on that without question.

RealSNR 02-25-2024 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17417128)
The NFL has been trending this way recently. I remember having a conversation with a friend around 2016 or so and they just blurted out the NFL offenses are going to be more like the NBA. Just freak athletes running down the field and it's going to be hard to play defense against them.

I don't have a crystal ball. Veach could mismanage the offense and WR's again and we could 3peat by default if we get the right breaks, other teams choke , etc

But we have won ZERO SB's without an elite pass-catcher.

The first 1 we had 2 HOF weapons and Kelce has been the guy in the last two years.

Kelce was already aging out last year. It was nice he got on a run in the playoffs but the clock is ticking.

You don't just find another unicorn HOF TE like Kelce. Just getting a #1 WR is easier so why not start looking now?


That's my position and I don't get why that seems so radical.


Now back to Jeff, I expect the Vikings if this actually was true would want a top ten pick back as part of a large package and we don't have one of those.

If all they needed was the Tyreek package I pull the trigger on that without question.

Everybody bitches about the Packers never spending a 1st rounder on a WR or TE for Rodgers, but I call Jennings, Jordy, Jones, Cobb, Adams a pretty damn good stretch of receivers over 10 years.

What if we just did kind of the same thing?

MahomesMagic 02-25-2024 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 17417139)
Everybody bitches about the Packers never spending a 1st rounder on a WR or TE for Rodgers, but I call Jennings, Jordy, Jones, Cobb, Adams a pretty damn good stretch of receivers over 10 years.

What if we just did kind of the same thing?

It's a nice thought but the Packers are just drafting a lot more guys.

Chiefs not only have not gone for quality at WR, we don't do quantity either.


So I hear what you are saying but to pull it off:

1. Get new WR scouts, emphasize route running more (what I think we have been neglecting on our picks)

2.Get a real WR coach, come on down DeSean Jackson

3. Draft a lot more WR's each draft

smithandrew051 02-25-2024 04:12 PM

I’ve heard of him. Let’s roll.

Chitownchiefsfan 02-25-2024 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17417085)
Alphas not wanted.


Need to save the draft picks so we can get a MVS/Sky Moore hybrid instead.

Imagine winning 3 superbowls in 5 years and still bitching about the front office.

pugsnotdrugs19 02-25-2024 04:20 PM

Considering it would take a Tyreek level trade compensation + making him the highest paid WR ever coming off an injury year… no thank you

TwistedChief 02-25-2024 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 17417106)
I'd imagine it would similar to the Tyreek/Adams trades and deal?

More.

And we’d have the least valuable ammo given our draft rank.

He won’t be traded (and probably isn’t even available - the source of this was saying they should entertain trading him months ago so this is likely more speculation than reality), but MahomesMagic will be back in October to remind all of us how we weren’t aggressive and blah blah blah because we could’ve had JJ.

Can’t wait for that one.

pugsnotdrugs19 02-25-2024 04:35 PM

The last two years have proven we don’t need an alpha male WR who is going to expect and demand a certain amount of targets.

We need competency. Guys who know their role and execute at the foundational level. And yeah you need good receivers, but not these Hall of Fame types. That’s gravy.

Just keep giving Mahomes a good line, defense, and reliable running game.


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