Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 15662146)

Some of you guys, man. I've been trying real hard to be positive.

But I think some of you guys are completely delusional.

Do you really not see how drastically better this team is than three months ago?

Do you really not get how talented and deep that offensive line is now?

We're DRAMATICALLY better. Maybe HISTORICALLY so.

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15661796)

What kind of flaming bundle of sticks Chiefs fan is picking the Bucs to beat the Chiefs in the SB again after what Veach just did with the OL?

You’re honestly the worst.

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 15662014)

I hate to be that guy, but a huge, huge element of that game was early, questionable, drive-sustaining penalties exclusively called against the Chiefs.

These penalties both served as momentum killers for us and boosters for them, and also led to an early hole for us and lead for them.

Their early lead then led to us becoming even more one-dimensional (both due to poor play calling and necessity) as the game went on, which only served to exacerbate their strength and our weakness - their DLine vs our OLine.

I really think that if that same game is played 10 times - not as a series but rather in different timelines in the same exact scenario - we win it 7/10 times.

With standard officiating, their drives end when they are supposed to, the score stays close, Mahomes does his thing, we stay multi-dimensional, its a close finish.

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 15662146)

Some of you guys, man. I've been trying real hard to be positive.

But I think some of you guys are completely delusional.

Do you really not see how drastically better this team is than three months ago?

Do you really not get how talented and deep that offensive line is now?

We're DRAMATICALLY better. Maybe HISTORICALLY so.

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 15661950)

The OL probably cost us that game, but we all know the truth: the Bucs beat us in several ways, not just that one.

Originally Posted by wachashi (Post 15662601)

There's no "probably" about it. The Bucs knew they could generate consistent, almost immediate pressure with four rushers. They knew that before the game even started and they schemed their entire defense around that HUGE advantage. The Bucs brought more than four rushers only five times the entire game, and Mahomes was still running for his life. That's nuts.

They "cheated" on the short/intermediate routes knowing the ball had to come out super-quick. They played two-high safety shell behind that.

Game over. There's really nothing else to say.

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 15662833)

They outscored us in the 2nd half of the regular season game after they changed up their defense.

The Bucs outplayed us in all three aspects, it wasn't just OL bad = loss. People forget Townsend punting it pretty much sideways.

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15662841)

You mean they outscored us in the 2nd half when we had a huge lead and took our foot off the gas like we ALWAYS do? OMG!!!!

Also, you still don’t understand that everything the Bucs did on the back end was due to their ability to rush 4 and still have Mahomes running for his life.

****ing moron.

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 15662849)

I doubt our plan was to let the Bucs close the gap and be in position to win the game.

We won the game, but we had to hold on against a strong Bucs comeback.

We need to just give them credit: they played an iffy game with a really good second half, and then an outstanding Super Bowl. To beat them, we are probably going to have to do more than just turn our OL into the fortress it's become.

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15662873)

Yea going from an OL that was full of backups and couldn’t block 3-4 guys to save their lives to possibly one of the best in the league clearly isn’t enough! That’s also obviously all we did!

It’s not like we also added a guy like Jarran Reed who could be a huge difference maker that easily gives us the best interior pass rush duo in the NFL. He’s not even worth mentioning in regards to a potential rematch, right?

You’re just further proving my point that this entire thread was your passive aggressive way of continuing to question Veach and bitch about what turned out to be a fantastic offseason.

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 15662849)

I doubt our plan was to let the Bucs close the gap and be in position to win the game.

We won the game, but we had to hold on against a strong Bucs comeback.

We need to just give them credit: they played an iffy game with a really good second half, and then an outstanding Super Bowl. To beat them, we are probably going to have to do more than just turn our OL into the fortress it's become.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15663020)

Wow.