Who? Basham?

And this is why I hate tiers.

The idea that a guy is in a lower tier clearly denotes him as a step down— but some of these guys aren’t huge steps down.

And if you gave me the choice of an A linebacker and a C passrusher, or an A passrusher and a C linebacker, I know which one is take.

Except they might not have seen Basham as an A pass rusher. We don’t know how they had him valued.

If you want a legit DE, you’re either gonna have to go the frank clark route and trade for one or take one likely in the first round.

And a ton of those guys went late first. No way were we trading up that high to get one of the bottom. That’s how you get Speaks 2.0.

So you were fine with LB in the 1st after going LB in the 2nd last year back then, but LB in the 2nd two years in a row is bad?

Everyone okay with the Cardinals taking two LBs with back to back top 20 picks?

Now that’s a positional argument that I totally understand. Those were top 20 ****ing picks. Not 32, 58, and 63. Completely different ball game.

I’m just saying. If I was a Cardinals fan...I would be pissed at the Zaven Collins pick right now.

Absolutely. I was agreeing with you.

But the issue is people like Direckshun are so concerned with positional value that they overlook real value.

Bolton and Humphrey were consensus top 40-50 guys at the very least that some had going in the 1st round.

To get that at 58 and 63 IS value.

Do the Chiefs not have a need at those positions? If they work out, are the Chiefs not getting value having a starting C and MLB on rookie deals as opposed to paying market value at those positions to fill a need in free agency? Value is value.

I worry with Bolton that he’s a stiff lber who ends up being a 2 down player but all my Mu buddies love the guy and say he’ll work hard to become more than that.

Eric kendricks type player is the upside so if that hits were in great shape

I thought he was a legit top 20ish dude and if he fell yeah it wouldn’t be ideal but the value is too tough to pass. I don’t think they’d have taken him at 31 but you can’t pass the way it worked out

A LB at 58 when one of your weakest positions on defense is LB....is not a bad pick.

But you’ve got teams like the Cardinals who just took another LB or the Jags who took a 3rd down RB in the first round and all the talking heads are in love with those picks.

I think they view him more of a pass rushing lber/de.

I don’t like it but with those two the upside is so high in what they can be I guess it makes sense

Bolton is worth the fact that when Hitchens gets tired or hurt....we won’t have to see Niemann come into the field at MLB.