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Prison Bitch 05-11-2023 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Ceej (Post 16942394)
Outside of Juan -

how bad is this defense going to be next year?
How great was it this year? McCullar was nails, Jalen was fine. But Dick certainly didn’t guard and outside Udeh our bench didn’t guard a soul

And KJ is back obv so he should be the same

smithandrew051 05-11-2023 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16942432)
The worst defensive team of the Self era (2018, 47th in adjusted defensive efficiency) won the conference by two games and made the FF. If we can score, it probably won't matter.
This is correct. Self can coach up the defense, especially when he has a deeper bench and young guys with fresh legs.

We’ll be fine. Land Mgbako tomorrow, and this is a national champion contender. Probably already is.

BigRedChief 05-11-2023 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 16942487)
This is correct. Self can coach up the defense, especially when he has a deeper bench and young guys with fresh legs.

We’ll be fine. Land Mgbako tomorrow, and this is a national champion contender. Probably already is.
We are already the #1 team in the nation. And it’s a legit #1 without adding any more top shelf talent.

RaidersOftheCellar 05-11-2023 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Ceej (Post 16942394)
Outside of Juan -

how bad is this defense going to be next year?
Glass half empty guy, eh?

Why are you even assuming this will be a bad defensive team? Dickinson may not be a great pick and roll defender, but even he averages a couple blocks per game.

RaidersOftheCellar 05-11-2023 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 16942602)
We are already the #1 team in the nation. And it’s a legit #1 without adding any more top shelf talent.
I don't know about that. I wouldn't doubt that Self could get the current roster to the overall 1 seed, but there are other rosters that are up there.

But they're not done. Mgbako will commit tomorrow, and hopefully they'll add at least one more decent player.

smithandrew051 05-11-2023 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar (Post 16942627)
I don't know about that. I wouldn't doubt that Self could get the current roster to the overall 1 seed, but there are other rosters that are up there.

But they're not done. Mgbako will commit tomorrow, and hopefully they'll add at least one more decent player.
Mgbako and a decent bench big who can defend is all we need from here.

Even if that bench big is just a Lightfoot caliber player, that’s enough. Just need a guy who can play 10+ minutes without being a liability.

Ceej 05-11-2023 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar (Post 16942624)
Glass half empty guy, eh?

Why are you even assuming this will be a bad defensive team? Dickinson may not be a great pick and roll defender, but even he averages a couple blocks per game.
Not at all.

It was an observation.

Prison Bitch 05-11-2023 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 16942661)
Mgbako and a decent bench big who can defend is all we need from here.

Even if that bench big is just a Lightfoot caliber player, that’s enough. Just need a guy who can play 10+ minutes without being a liability.
Should’ve kept Cam then. He could’ve served that role as bruiser

KC_Connection 05-11-2023 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 16942943)
Should’ve kept Cam then. He could’ve served that role as bruiser
I’d rather have someone who can jump.

smithandrew051 05-11-2023 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 16942943)
Should’ve kept Cam then. He could’ve served that role as bruiser
My only memory of Cam is when he cost Pablo all that money against Indiana lol

Prison Bitch 05-11-2023 09:20 PM
Ok but we are not getting anyone good with the offer of 8mpg

And at least he knew the system and could avoid making dumb turnovers

BWillie 05-11-2023 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16942947)
I’d rather have someone who can jump.
Honestly athleticism was not Cams issue, it was Jalens. Cam could dunk easily.

Chiefspants 05-11-2023 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16943006)
Honestly athleticism was not Cams issue, it was Jalens. Cam could dunk easily.
I have never seen a stiffer basketball player on a KU team. He simply could not dribble in a contested lane vs D1 competition.

KC_Connection 05-11-2023 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16943006)
Honestly athleticism was not Cams issue, it was Jalens. Cam could dunk easily.
I would suggest watching the few games Cam actually got into again then. He was maybe the worst athlete I’ve ever seen actually getting any minutes on a Self team (which is likely why Self didn’t give him many).

BWillie 05-11-2023 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 16943009)
I have never seen a stiffer basketball player on a KU team. He simply could not dribble in a contested lane vs D1 competition.
Not sure how u could tell in limited minutes. He was a prototypical offensive guy with horrid defense and lack of lateral quickness


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