Originally Posted by Jamie (Post 17462220)

My question would be how much guaranteed money. Because "3 years with some guaranteed money" would also describe basically all UDFA contracts.

Originally Posted by Monticore (Post 17462528)

I read somewhere where he had run practice 40s in the 4.3s and he hasn’t probably had the same time of track training /coaching most of the college kids get specifically to run at at the combine , not playing football might only be the issue but it sounds like his dad played some American football , if he was a fan and watch the game /played madden etc.. some natural feel for space it could see him transitioning. Would be a cool story

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 17462584)

He was timed running 24mph last year in a game. Hill's fastest last year was 22mph.

Originally Posted by Hayneplane (Post 17462537)

I would also expect his short burst speed to improve now that training will be geared towards single play explosiveness rather than 80 minutes stamina endurance as in rugby union. He will also likely bulk up as well adding muscle mass.

Of course he is going to be naive in learning the playcalls and running crisp routes but Andy Reid is smart enough to know that you don’t bring someone in because they can do things you don’t normally see and then try to force them to conform to all the norms of a player in their position. Trying to do that would be like acknowledging that Mahomes is the all time greatest scramble drill improviser in the game yet deciding that because Quarterbacks are traditionally pocket passers you are going to chain him to the pocket.

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 17460178)

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Top speed comparison: <br><br>Tyreek Hill- 23.24 MPH<br>Louis Rees-Zammit: 24.2 MPH</p>&mdash; Mackenzie Webb (@kenziewebbsport) <a href="https://twitter.com/kenziewebbsport/status/1773150877794152791?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 28, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 17462726)

If he bulks up, he's going to get slower, not faster.

And 4.4 isn't slow. More than fast enough to play in the NFL.


He's another athletic guy. Andy really likes athletes, almost more than he likes football players, or so it seems at times.

Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 17462733)

He doesn't take up a roster spot and no cap space. Why not have a fun story. Probably camp fodder but who cares.

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17462736)

I'm not so sure he really needs to bulk up any.

Originally Posted by PunkinDrublic (Post 17461582)

Haynie made the team and played a full season. He retired on his own from playing in the NFL.

Originally Posted by jdubya (Post 17462741)

My only point being, this isnt the first time a rugby to football conversion has been attempted. I live here in NorCal and remember the hype.

Just saying every year there are hundreds of phenomenal athletes in the US that have played football their entire lives and cant transition to the NFL. Its a long shot for a guy who has never played to have success here.

Having said that, with the new KO rules might enter new strategies and Andy is second to none in placing people in places to have success so Im not counting anybody out lol.