Maybe Josh talent level is more along the lines of > Pringle and Robinson and if not less then then clearly not much of an improvement. Think it was a good signing to see what he has left but he has barely played in the last couple years and to act like he is at his peak and it can only be coaching to explain why he is not involved seems pretty short sighted.

Robinson is trash and Pringle is JAG.

Even if Gordon is on the same level as them…you give him a chance to see if he can do anything.

You would think if that is the case he would be able to clearly standout in practice as a clear up grade and yet here we are. I think we need to face the fact he is washed and is not going to be a improvement.

I think it's more like we see with players we draft even. They don't get a lot of playing time usually they ease them in unless they have no choice. Even when they have a player cough Sorenson or cough hitchens who's struggling they barely play them.

Fine but your team is sucking ass and you need a spark. Idk maybe draw up something for the dude you signed that apparently was good enough to get on the active roster.

Smells like more bullshit to me from the coaching staff.

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Or that the coaching staff is ****ing clueless.

Robinson led the WRs in snaps. What does that tell you?

Josh Gordon to Chiefs
 

Robinson and Pringle do nothing at a plus level. Even if Gordon isn’t what they hoped with regards to speed or routes or something he has elite plus level size that can be used and is desperately needed.

Ok sure, but then what does Robinson do that Pringle can't do better? The chiefs have ****ed the WR position up so bad there's no reason for me to think they can properly evaluate who's better.

If Gordon is truly washed, fine, whatever, but there's no way on earth you can justify Robinson getting the most WR snaps. You can't even say it was cause of his run blocking because we barely ran all game. I don't understand a lot of personnel decisions this year.

The talent level is so depleted across the board I’m shocked he hasn’t played more.

I hope it’s not Mahomes becoming LeBron and getting say on who we bring in and keep around. I get it that Reid’s playbook is a lot to learn but there’s no reason to not at least have a few packages and plays designed for Gordon.

8 snaps is certainly not what we wanted from Gordon yesterday, but if anyone has the all 22 it'd be instructive to see how many of those 8 he was reasonably open on

I'm inclined toward pessimism with this coaching staff lately, but its always possible he simply wasn't being effective with his routes, or was just plain well covered

Or Reid is not being imaginative in his play calling anymore and he’s become completely predictable. Same goes for the defense and Spags.

Or…is it possible that Bienemy is calling the plays because Reid is trying to get him a HC job and the consistent feedback was EB isn’t as desirable because he doesn’t call plays?

Both are certainly possible, I was just throwing out one potential reason

Said after the Bills game that I smelled Bienemy all over the gameplan... all those runs on first down were a dead giveaway

Andy’s loyalty to shit players like Robinson because they supposedly “know the offense” is pathetic.

Robinson’s snap count vs Josh Gordon’s snap count in the Tennessee game…

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https://cdn-vox--cdn-com.cdn.ampproj...osh_Gordon.jpg

It's malpractice that there hasn't been a single 50/50 sideline ball thrown to Gordon so far, similar to the ball thrown to Fortson in the Washington game.

There is no way Reid is calling these games. Neither the plays or the sequence plays are being run look like Reid.

We built a run blocking line and still shovel pass every time we get around the goal line....Reid is calling the plays.

Not buying that. Feels like we're scapegoating EB for what's more a Reid problem. I do think we need new blood at OC, but let's put the blame in the right place.

Incorporating new players into the offensive gameplan seems to be a reoccurring problem.

Josh Gordon, Noah Gray, Jerick McKinnon have all been barely used while deadweight mediocrity Robinson gets more targets than all three of those players combined so far this season.

I just cut him from my fantasy team.

200 yards and 3 TDs incoming.

I'd also be interested to see how many short and intermediate routes he ran. A few weeks into our struggles and I can't understand why we're not running slants and screens even just a little bit. Even on limited snaps with Gordon feels like we're setting him up to fail.

I also cannot for the life of me understand why we wouldn't use garbage time to see what we had in gore. What were we going to learn from darrel Williams in the 4q that we didn't know already?

He did play a few snaps in the fourth quarter..

Very very late in the game with Chad Henne in. That is beyond even garbage time.

He played his 6 snaps throughout the game. Its not like they gave him those snaps all in the 4th quarter. In fact they even had him start the game. I guess just to tease him and the fans.

I wish the best for Josh Gordon. But I have my doubts that he will contribute much to the Chiefs. At a time in which the Patriots did not have much receiving talent, the Patriots cut Josh Gordon. While I don't know the particular details, I thought the benching had more to do with Gordon not being able to get that much separation or route running than an off the field incident.

Patriots have had problems drafting really good receivers but their haven't been many relatively inexpensive receivers cut by the Patriots that really did well elsewhere. That being said, the Chiefs may have a defined role for him in which he fits particularly well.

I’m not sure why Veach keeps bringing these types of guys in on offense. He must know by now Reid has no intention of working them into the system or game plan. He’s just going to end up disgruntled like McCoy and Bell and end the season being inactive for the last half of the year. Waste of everyone’s time.

Yeah, this has been a huge disappointment. It's a bummer. We've all worked up an idea of how Gordon could be a real help to the O...I guess not. But, maybe it'll be after the bye week or something, though that'll probably be too late.

HELL YEAH SWEETIE!!!

JG4200yds3tds!!

According to the presser Andy thinks we were just a few fingertips away, so that was t garbage time.

Patrick threw for 406 yards and not one target to this guy.. Why is he here now??

He celebrated in the end zone. We needed one of those guys.

That he did. ROFL

But we have DRob for that!

Not big enough/ end thread

Even Marcus Kemp had a catch yesterday. Poor Gordon.

Chiefs coach Andy Reid has told Josh Gordon "to be patient because it's going to happen."

Obviously, Reid's words leave some room for interpretation but the coach also said it's only a matter of time before Josh Gordon is a productive part of the Chiefs' offense. It's clear that Reid intends for Gordon to become more involved at some point. When or how that happens remains to be seen. Gordon has four targets and one catch in his time with Kansas City. He can be left on waiver wires for now but his usage is worth monitoring going forward.

https://www.nbcsportsedge.com/footba...74/josh-gordon

It’s totally understandable why a guy that hasn’t played football in a while while trying to learn a new complicated offense has taken some time.

I fully expect his role to grow.

Josh Gordon - 33 snaps last night (46%) https://chiefswire.usatoday.com/2021...n-josh-gordon/

Side note - Nick Bolton - 19 defensive snaps (35%)

We've got basically two more months of regular season games on the schedule. Plenty of time for Gordon to work himself in.

I have him down for 5 rec for 500 yards receiving vs Dallas later on in the week!

The Nick Bolton snap count doesn't mean anything. Chiefs were in the dime package most of the night.

HELL YEAH SWEETIE!

I wonder if Gordon is dropping passes in practice.


If I recall correctly....
his stats are:

1 catch 11 yards (on a WTF ball that may not even been intended for him).

2 drops.

1 whiff in the end zone that then doinks off someone else for an INT.

It means that Spags still does not recognize that gay would be 100% better in that role. Also no one could ever convince me that watts couldn’t out play Sorensen.

He's looking just a little bit better every week.

Don't get me wrong, the process has taken a hell of a lot longer than I figured given that his skill-set is one that I would've expected to age pretty well (good frame, good body control, willing to play physical).

But I do think I see growth, slow as it may be. I think there's still a chance he contributes.

But really, I think Pringle's the guy that's going to have to stand up the most here. And when given a chance, he almost always has. I think that's the guy we need to be a true X with Gordon evolving into a pretty good possession receiver.

What growth are you seeing?

I think he ends up having an impact in the latter part of the season.

They're starting to throw him out there, 15 just needs to give him a chance now... don't force it but also kinda hurry up, Patrick

No targets last night, and to be fair Hill/Kelce/Darrel were getting almost everything

Andy is gonna have to dial him up specifically if he’s going to make multiple catches

Yeah, I'm a nutjob, but I thought about it.
What if we're sandbagging?
What if we have Gordon, we know we can use him, but it's a matter of time/place?
There's NO TAPE on the guy. We can do whatever we feel like...
I know, but it's a thought.

Again - not a ton. It’s been slow going. But it’s there.

He’s looking a little bit quicker and his routes a little bit better (and more complicated). He’s looking more active and engaged with things like blocking.

He’s almost looking like a 2nd day draft pick in that you’re seeing extremely small growth in the margins that you hope allows him to eventually break out a bit. Ideally it would be by the playoffs but for many rookies you end up just having to wait until the following year.

He looks like a rookie 3rd/4th round pick from a run-first program far as his growth curve goes. It’s slow and frustrating but it’s there if you squint.

Cool, thanks for sharing.

https://twitter.com/dwainmcfarland/s...35774184914944

If you are wondering why Josh Gordon hasn't been a thing yet for the Chiefs. Open rate versus single-man coverage: 14.3% (very bad)

This has been my theory as well

Look at his numbers from 2017 on they are pretty much the same as Robinson's think you all are looking for 2013 Gordon. That's done

Trying to keep my hopes up.

Knowing Reid it's possible he's just getting him used to routes. Knowing mahomes it's possible he needs to build chemistry for the scramble drill.

For now, it's good to see he's been a great teammate. I still feel like he could and should play Pringles role, but do it better.

The issue I have with this is the wear and tear on Kelce and Reek. We lose one of them and we're in a world of hurt.

I think they are hiding him for the Cowboys game.

I predict 3 for 63 and a TD!

I'm not sure.... https://im4.ezgif.com/tmp/ezgif-4-60cc042217ae.gif

Gordon is on the bottom and runs a 10 yard out pattern. He is technically open. If Mahomes leads him towards the sideline the defender has no chance. Instead he dumps to Kelce for a short gain.

I have seen this a few times where Gordon is open or can be passed open. But he either isn't the first option or Mahomes just doesn't have the trust with him yet. Yesterday was the second game in a row with 30+ snaps. He is clearly taking snaps from Robinson.

WE'RE SAVING HIM FOR THE SUPER BOWL!!!!!

We can all finally agree that this guy sucks right now, right?

Used up... done..

Coming out of the bye will be the last chance. Either they install something for him then or what we've seen is all we will see.

I think the rapport just isn't there and Mahomes overlooks him. Oh well.

Hes soooooo close to breaking out. /Andy

At this point, he hides so well that he will be teaching the Big Foot merit badge to Boy Scouts.

Just like LeSean and Le'Veon!?

Most likely, but I'd actually keep plugging away here and there to see if something finally clicks down the home stretch

He's toast. His big attribute was supposed to be "big body, natural receiver" but he appears to have hands of stone.

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The targets he gets he drops, so lack of rapport is on him.

Pringle on the other hand seems to be ejecting his hayseed micro peen and helicoptering it around to the best of his ability when given the opportunity.

I think Gordon is 3/6 now.

3 dropped passes.

Im ready to move on from him. I hate to say it but hes probably a odd soul who needs substances to amp him up or relax his nerves.

When he lines up, he’s twice the size of the defender. It’s hard to imagine why he wouldn’t be a target.

Andy rehabs guys.

I don’t think it’s always for football production.

I'm not sure why he's still on the team. He looks terrible.

He looks so slow.

I would love to see the all22 film. I rarely see him out there, is he slow? Is he open? Do we know?

They must see something in him?

Maybe they're saving him for the playoffs.

I also think that Andy likes having a veteran insurance policy. I don't think it's a coincidence that we've brought in Lesean McCoy, Le'Veon Bell, and now LeJosh Gordon to sit on the bench.