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DJ's left nut 03-20-2019 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 14170396)
Because it’ll have more of an impact especially if Hill is cut and Watkins goes down which is inevitable. So it does make sense given they have a competent center to begin with.

Okay fine, but that's exclusive of your 'holes on the defense' point and again circles back to my first one - that I don't think you're clearly better off reversing the order to WR/C from C/WR. And I think you're more likely to find immediately playable talent at WR in the 2nd than you are at C in this particular draft.

But admittedly, that's all a wild-ass guess. Nobody expected JuJu to be a stud immediately, nor did they expect pro-bowl caliber play from Morse as a rookie.

I simply don't think you can dogmatically say "don't take a C in the 1st round" and that appears to be what you're doing, regardless of the talent of said C.

DJ's left nut 03-20-2019 11:07 AM

And God Dammit SNR, get your ass in here and make a pick so we can stop arguing over hands down the most boringest pick on this entire planet of Earth.

htismaqe 03-20-2019 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14170406)
And God Dammit SNR, get your ass in here and make a pick so we can stop arguing over hands down the most boringest pick on this entire planet of Earth.

ROFL

Mother****erJones 03-20-2019 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14170401)
Okay fine, but that's exclusive of your 'holes on the defense' point and again circles back to my first one - that I don't think you're clearly better off reversing the order to WR/C from C/WR. And I think you're more likely to find immediately playable talent at WR in the 2nd than you are at C in this particular draft.

But admittedly, that's all a wild-ass guess. Nobody expected JuJu to be a stud immediately, nor did they expect pro-bowl caliber play from Morse as a rookie.

I simply don't think you can dogmatically say "don't take a C in the 1st round" and that appears to be what you're doing, regardless of the talent of said C.

Admittedly, I don’t know the gap between Bradbury and the next center. This team has been pretty good at developing OL that aren’t first round picks. So I don’t want a first round OL. Would even much rather have Deionte Thompson roaming CF. I’m not sure how far he’ll fall into round 2. He’s a good rangey CF safety. Or you could go Taylor Rapp even to pair with honey badger. I just got home from work. I’ll go over the first round and see what’s left and where I’d have Bradbury. I’m not saying you’re wrong at all FYI. It’s just my preference.

The Franchise 03-20-2019 11:21 AM

People need to understand that's it not so easy drafting for the Chiefs in this thing. Everyone wants to take a shot at it....but it ****ing sucks when you're actually doing it.

Direckshun 03-20-2019 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14170060)
Guys, I hate to do this to any of you but he's the last genuinely standout talent left on the board regardless of position. I'd considered Simmons because he's probably the best pure talent but let's be honest - this organization is not going to take Simmons right now.

And there are a couple other guys I considered who I may discuss if/when they get taken. But ultimately they ended up in the same tier of pretty solid mid-second round prospects who probably aren't quite to the level of genuinely excellent possible players. They're guys I don't expect to have a shot at in the 2nd and would've taken in the 1st if I had to (would've tiered by need at that point), but they aren't truly standout on their own.

Bradbury is the best C prospect in this draft. And he's a guy that can develop an excellent rapport with our franchise QB for the next 5 years. He's a potential 1st year Pro Bowl player and there's nothing sexy about the pick, but it makes some sense given the depth at other critical positions.

C is getting damn expensive in FA now so the positional value is starting to come into play a little bit. And with more teams looking to push the middle of the pocket than ever, not to mention the necessity of the quick passing game, keeping guys from blowing up the center of your line is more critical than ever.

I would've literally hung my head and shuffled my feet as I made this pick. I don't like anything about doing it. But from a purely utilitarian standpoint, it is the pick to make.

I apologize to Chiefs nation and will go pour my bowl of anti-freeze now.

This is probably the strongest possible argument you could make for Bradbury.

STILL, I wouldn't touch him. He's a superb player but we have next to zero passrushing talent, we could use another linebacker, and we could use another corner or two. To say nothing of the fact that we need more receiving talent for when Sammy Watkins inevitably gets cut in 2020.

I think I would have been more upset if you had taken a QB. But not by much. This is a pretty lousy pick.

That being said, I'm sure you'd trade up if you could. But yeah, this just wasn't what the doctor ordered for this team with a hollowed-out defense.

Direckshun 03-20-2019 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 14170440)
People need to understand that's it not so easy drafting for the Chiefs in this thing. Everyone wants to take a shot at it....but it ****ing sucks when you're actually doing it.

Co-sign. And I drafted Cam Erving in the first round.

So I'll happily crap all over the Bradbury selection because I've earned my stripes to do so.

Mother****erJones 03-20-2019 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 14170440)
People need to understand that's it not so easy drafting for the Chiefs in this thing. Everyone wants to take a shot at it....but it ****ing sucks when you're actually doing it.

I’m not crushing anyone. It’s a ****ing discussion board. There’s going to be differences of opinions

The Franchise 03-20-2019 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 14170450)
I’m not crushing anyone. It’s a ****ing discussion board. There’s going to be differences of opinions

And no where in my post did I point you out. I simply stated my opinion on the matter.

Mother****erJones 03-20-2019 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 14170454)
And no where in my post did I point you out. I simply stated my opinion on the matter.

And I stated mine back. This is all in good fun. Of course it’s hard picking the right guy for KC. There’s so many directions this team can go in the first couple rounds

staylor26 03-20-2019 11:36 AM

Not the pick I would have made, but not a bad pick by any means.

kccrow 03-20-2019 12:18 PM

What in the mother of **** did I miss today holy shit...........

That's a hell of a way to get a better defense, draft a player you don't need on the wrong side of the ball.

CoMoChief 03-20-2019 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 14170585)
What in the mother of **** did I miss today holy shit...........

That's a hell of a way to get a better defense, draft a player you don't need on the wrong side of the ball.

stupid isn't it? Typical CP loving their fatties.

Mahomes still went 36TDs 10INTs 3600yds when Morse was sidelined after JAX game. And just so we're clear, Aaron Donald destroyed everyone last season.

I dont mind the Chiefs drafting a C, just not in the first rd when the Chiefs are in dire need of a D rebuild, when the team is starving for help at every level.

CoMoChief 03-20-2019 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14170471)
Not the pick I would have made, but not a bad pick by any means.

I disagree...it was a shitty pick.

RealSNR 03-20-2019 12:38 PM

The Green Bay Packers select Dexter Lawrence, DT, Clemson

The Packers technically have a nose in Kenny Clark, but... eh, screw it. This guy's worth it. It's not like Kenny Clark is a cemented starter who can't handle moving in or out. BPA on their board, and it's not like the defense is sooooo good. The Packers can also move on from him easier after this season is up.


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