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MahomesMagic 04-01-2021 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 15611080)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jamin Davis, UK LB <br><br>Vertical: 42&quot; ��<br><br>Broad: 11&#39; �� <a href="https://t.co/UuUgF3Iiy8">pic.twitter.com/UuUgF3Iiy8</a></p>&mdash; PFF Draft (@PFF_College) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF_College/status/1377290167413784582?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 31, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">WHAT<br><br> <a href="https://t.co/H2sHTWugIh">pic.twitter.com/H2sHTWugIh</a></p>&mdash; PFF Draft (@PFF_College) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF_College/status/1377290261890535436?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 31, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Yeah, he going high. He's a 1st round pick.

htismaqe 04-01-2021 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15610779)
Goddamn Eichenberg has arms barely over 32 inches?

That certainly changes things
Yeah.

Gotta agree with Crow here. He's probably a guard now. Ouch.

UChieffyBugger 04-01-2021 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 15610450)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> scout/coach is running the OL drills at the Florida pro day. A name to get familiar with is Stone Forsythe - towering OT prospect who played left tackle for the Gators last season. Really good pass protector with rare movement skills for his size.</p>&mdash; Charles Goldman (@goldmctNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/goldmctNFL/status/1377302878273032195?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 31, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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His arms are OVER 34 apparently. The question is is he a legit LT after playing that spot for just one year? And can the chiefs take that risk knowing if Okung or whoever goes down he may need to play? That's the gamble Veach and co are taking with the guy we draft.

Right now Leatherwood looks a very enticing prospect too tbh. Pro day results are decent and he's played LT for years.

htismaqe 04-01-2021 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 15611508)
His arms are OVER 34 apparently. The question is is he a legit LT after playing that spot for just one year? And can the chiefs take that risk knowing if Okung or whoever goes down he may need to play? That's the gamble Veach and co are taking with the guy we draft.

Right now Leatherwood looks a very enticing prospect too tbh. Pro day results are decent and he's played LT for years.
Leatherwood doesn't operate well in space. Most scouts think he'll end up a guard in the NFL.

He's not the kind of LT Andy Reid usually looks for.

The Franchise 04-01-2021 12:17 PM
So here’s my question regarding Forsythe.

If he’s good at pass blocking and meh at run blocking.....what’s the issue? Draft him to play LT and work on making his run blocking better.

O.city 04-01-2021 12:18 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Tevin Jenkins (OT2) pro day results per <a href="https://twitter.com/JimNagy_SB?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@JimNagy_SB</a>:<br>Height: 6057<br>Weight: 317<br>Hand: 9 1/2<br>Arm: 33 1/2<br>Wing: 81<br>40: 5.03/5.01<br>Vert: 32.5<br>Broad: 8-10<br>SS: 4.66<br>3C: 7.72<br>Bench: 36 <a href="https://t.co/5c8awYijM4">pic.twitter.com/5c8awYijM4</a></p>&mdash; Brandon Thorn (@BrandonThornNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrandonThornNFL/status/1377686656820600835?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 1, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The Franchise 04-01-2021 12:20 PM
If they think Jenkins can play LT....then I’m good with it.

Tribal Warfare 04-01-2021 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15611592)
If they think Jenkins can play LT....then I’m good with it.
Or Veach/Reid feel like he's an OG

UChieffyBugger 04-01-2021 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15611574)
Leatherwood doesn't operate well in space. Most scouts think he'll end up a guard in the NFL.

He's not the kind of LT Andy Reid usually looks for.
Folks also said Niang would play guard before he opted out last season but now that ain't happening. Bottom line is some tackles come in with percieved "weaknesses" which don't transpire when they get into the flow of the nfl. Schwartz's pro day was a mess...as was Orlando Brown's so I'm not ruling Leatherwood out because of the notion of a few scouts.

kccrow 04-01-2021 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15611584)
So here’s my question regarding Forsythe.

If he’s good at pass blocking and meh at run blocking.....what’s the issue? Draft him to play LT and work on making his run blocking better.
My worry is NFL players are going to blow by him because his footwork is atrocious. He can't just be some mammoth that gets by on standing there and making guys go around him, because they will in the NFL. He lunges alot when he starts losing to speed rushers that can bend the arc. I'd say there is legit concern.

RunKC 04-01-2021 12:43 PM
Yeah Jenkins is probably gone before we can get to him considering how disappointing some of these other guys are. He’s probably the 4th OT on the board with some teams viewing him as the 3rd.

33.5 arms isn’t a deal breaker for a lot of teams IMO

Chris Meck 04-01-2021 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15611574)
Leatherwood doesn't operate well in space. Most scouts think he'll end up a guard in the NFL.

He's not the kind of LT Andy Reid usually looks for.
You know who Leatherwood reminds me of?

Orlando Brown Jr.

Chris Meck 04-01-2021 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 15611644)
Folks also said Niang would play guard before he opted out last season but now that ain't happening. Bottom line is some tackles come in with percieved "weaknesses" which don't transpire when they get into the flow of the nfl. Schwartz's pro day was a mess...as was Orlando Brown's so I'm not ruling Leatherwood out because of the notion of a few scouts.
that wasn't about weaknesses with Niang, it was about getting your best 5 on the field, and a healthy Fisher and Schwartz weren't going to be beaten out by a rookie.

Chris Meck 04-01-2021 12:51 PM
this is just a thought, but are less than 34" arms the issue or is wingspan more the number that would matter. It seems to me that an inch shorter arms aren't a huge deal, but the wingspan would be more important.

I mean, I get that you don't want the defender all up in your chest, but if your shoulders are wider, but your arms are a half inch shorter, you still have the same wingspan and would theoretically have a stronger base.

Just a thought.

htismaqe 04-01-2021 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 15611644)
Folks also said Niang would play guard before he opted out last season but now that ain't happening. Bottom line is some tackles come in with percieved "weaknesses" which don't transpire when they get into the flow of the nfl. Schwartz's pro day was a mess...as was Orlando Brown's so I'm not ruling Leatherwood out because of the notion of a few scouts.
Scouts didn't say Niang would play guard, Veach did. And he said "to start out" primarily because at the time, we had Fish and Mitch. Niang is a prototype tackle, both in terms of measurables as well as technique.

Leatherwood is not. And it isn't about his pro day, it's about his film. He's got lower body issues, poor center, and doesn't move well. He's going to get abused on the edge by NFL speed rushers. He's not an NFL left tackle, especially not in an Andy Reid offense.


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