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modocsot 10-18-2019 02:36 PM

I agree, it was a fluke accident. However, Reid has a history of dumbassery with game-time decision-making and play calls. With that said,

A) he has a QB that’s been nursing an ankle injury for weeks, and recently was injured again on that same ankle.
B) a QB sneak is more than simply falling forward. The QB pushes with the pile that weighs hundreds of pounds, with the energy and torque flowing through said ankle.
C) HC has a litany of imaginative plays on his sheet, an effective FB, and carousel of RB’s.

Considering the above, would you proclaim that it was a genius call, or would you reason that it was an unnecessary and avoidable risk?

Again, I don’t disagree that it was a fluke accident. However I contend that a smart coach wouldn’t make that call when his QB is nursing an ankle injury.

Megatron96 10-18-2019 03:29 PM

The QB sneak is a very high percentage play. KNow how we know this? Tom Brady does it all the time. Bill wouldn't do it otherwise.

Here's the other thing. Let's imagine an alternate universe in which Pat never injured his ankle. When they run the sneak, he'd still dislocate that kneecap in that other universe.

In other words, Pat being gimpy had nothing to do with popping his knee. Nothing. They are two completely separate injuries that have nothing to do with each other. The ankle was on the left, the knee on the right. Make sense?

If he'd been 100% healthy and popped that knee last night, he still would be out for 3-5 weeks, period.

The only other argument is that Pat should never sneak the ball. Which is stupid. Every QB sneaks. Brady does several times a season, sometimes several times a game. If it were dangerous, do you really think Bill would have his 42-year-old franchise QB doing it?

No, of course not.

Pitt Gorilla 10-18-2019 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 14538268)
The QB sneak is a very high percentage play. KNow how we know this? Tom Brady does it all the time. Bill wouldn't do it otherwise.

Here's the other thing. Let's imagine an alternate universe in which Pat never injured his ankle. When they run the sneak, he'd still dislocate that kneecap in that other universe.

In other words, Pat being gimpy had nothing to do with popping his knee. Nothing. They are two completely separate injuries that have nothing to do with each other. The ankle was on the left, the knee on the right. Make sense?

If he'd been 100% healthy and popped that knee last night, he still would be out for 3-5 weeks, period.

The only other argument is that Pat should never sneak the ball. Which is stupid. Every QB sneaks. Brady does several times a season, sometimes several times a game. If it were dangerous, do you really think Bill would have his 42-year-old franchise QB doing it?

No, of course not.

Pretty much this.

modocsot 10-18-2019 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 14538268)
The QB sneak is a very high percentage play. KNow how we know this? Tom Brady does it all the time. Bill wouldn't do it otherwise.

Here's the other thing. Let's imagine an alternate universe in which Pat never injured his ankle. When they run the sneak, he'd still dislocate that kneecap in that other universe.

In other words, Pat being gimpy had nothing to do with popping his knee. Nothing. They are two completely separate injuries that have nothing to do with each other. The ankle was on the left, the knee on the right. Make sense?

If he'd been 100% healthy and popped that knee last night, he still would be out for 3-5 weeks, period.

The only other argument is that Pat should never sneak the ball. Which is stupid. Every QB sneaks. Brady does several times a season, sometimes several times a game. If it were dangerous, do you really think Bill would have his 42-year-old franchise QB doing it?

No, of course not.

Remember all those times Belichick called a sneak when Brady’s nursing an injury? Yeah me neither.

BryanBusby 10-18-2019 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by modocsot (Post 14538301)
Remember all those times Belichick called a sneak when Brady’s nursing an injury? Yeah me neither.

He did it all the time. LMAO

Megatron96 10-18-2019 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by modocsot (Post 14538301)
Remember all those times Belichick called a sneak when Brady’s nursing an injury? Yeah me neither.

Actually I'm pretty sure he did once. And nothing happened to Tom.

Steve Young ran the sneak three times in a game when he hurt his hand (think he dislocated a finger). Can't remember who his coach was for that game, but shockingly, he didn't get injured any worse doing it.

You're either a troll, or you just hate Reid; there's no rational reason to blame Reid for Pat's knee.

In fact, if there's anyone to blame, it'd be Pat for extending his leg like that with his knee pressed to the ground, so that it COULD be dislocated by the Broncos player that just by sheer chance happened to drive his knee/leg hard enough into the side of Pat's knee at just the right angle and force to pop it loose.

You should be ranting about Pat's stupidity for not using his fortune-telling powers right before contact so he could simply bend his knee a few inches, thereby completely avoiding the dislocation.

rabblerouser 10-18-2019 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14537866)
**** you

you insist that the chiefs are ****ed

then when they overcome and destroy your narrative and stomp a mudhole in the opponent you insist it's because of the opponent

****

you

What narrative? That the run defense was shit for four games?

That's called "fact".

ROFL

STEP AWAY FROM THE KEYBOARD, CLAYNUS. I AM NOT YOUR ENEMY.

Hammock Parties 10-18-2019 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 14538388)
What narrative? That the run defense was shit for four games?

That's called "fact".

ROFL

STEP AWAY FROM THE KEYBOARD, CLAYNUS. I AM NOT YOUR ENEMY.

The narrative was that the run defense was our achilles heel, season over, Reid shit, fire Spagnuolo, we're ****ed, etc etc etc

suck on first place, debbie downer

rabblerouser 10-27-2019 06:51 PM

Seriously.

10 days to come up with...THIS!?

jjchieffan 10-27-2019 06:53 PM

Unbelievable! 2 drives, 7 yards, 0 first downs. And it's not just Matt Moore. Playcalli g is awful. That screen play was horribly executed. And Moore was off target. This is going be ugly for sure.

rabblerouser 10-27-2019 06:59 PM

Just ****ing give it to them.

**** it.

BWillie 10-27-2019 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 14555738)
Unbelievable! 2 drives, 7 yards, 0 first downs. And it's not just Matt Moore. Playcalli g is awful. That screen play was horribly executed. And Moore was off target. This is going be ugly for sure.

The play calling has been fine. Moore has been absolutely atrocious.

rabblerouser 10-27-2019 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 14555738)
Unbelievable! 2 drives, 7 yards, 0 first downs. And it's not just Matt Moore. Playcalli g is awful. That screen play was horribly executed. And Moore was off target. This is going be ugly for sure.

Horrible. Andy Reid had 10 days to come up with THIS!?

rabblerouser 10-27-2019 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 14555843)
The play calling has been fine. Moore has been absolutely atrocious.

You're a ****ing moron.

They're squatting on everything within 10 yards and Reid won't call anything to open them up.

Both the offense and defense have been outcoached, thoroughly.

And what about punting on 4th and 2 inches!?

**** you, BWillie. KILL YOURSELF. NOW.

rabblerouser 10-27-2019 07:09 PM

This looks like a Herm Edwards team.

Or the Romeo team.


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